GIRLS talk (the Lena Dunham thread)

league's great

workaholics is great

I hate women

I actually thought The League was pretty egalitarian. That is, the dudes act like asses (mostly toward one another), and the women - who are all smart, pretty much - inevitably swoop in and show them up at their own game. When they do get crass and sexist-ish, they're usually the butt of their own schemes and jokes.

But I can't imagine people polluting the Workaholics thread with complaints about how they can't get into the show cuz they can't empathize with the privileged backgrounds of the characters or whatever.

in general, i wouldn't think that i would have much time for anyone who might even tangentially be connected to something called "mumblecore", so, i was happy that girls is actually pretty good. its just funny/entertaining. and i'm always on the lookout for new funny.

i kinda hate the league

the thing with girls is you have the tried and true bildungsroman thing of someone learning how to make their way in the world but then you have the post-curb/seinfeld attitude of no lessons/etc/etc and that's probably off-putting to some people. people want people to learn lessons and suffer and the characters in girls do learn things but they are also pretty modern/blase. you know, like clueless.

like clueless the movie. and okay a little clueless as people.

not familiar with the league, but workaholics bugs me. dislike the characters and sensibility. girls is much funnier, imo.

Girls set itself up for that by staking some claim to verisimilitude (no one's complaint about Entourage was that they couldn't identify with Hollywood millionaires - you weren't supposed to), and with the first ep. Without the pilot, I don't think there would be half as many complaints about privilege.
--Kiarostami bag (milo z)

I doubt that somehow and I don't really see the difference.

i like workaholics more than peep show too. my problem with peep show is my antipathy for the characters/actors.

peep show's great

netflix is great

it sux for everything but these shows tho, for the most part I think

i really tried to love peep show. watched it stoned, everything, just don't love it. i guess i am kinda parochial when it comes to naughty lad humour. i pretty much like everything that workaholics is based on. office space/kids in the hall/mr. show/wet hot american harold and kumar super troopers. all that crap.

Netflix is great for everything except big studio films.

Inspired by my love of Girls watched Tiny Furniture this evening and was suddenly struck by the AbFab influence on the Denham/Kirke 'ship. Kirke is so obviously Patsy age 22 or so.

are there any UK-friendly links for this show online? HBO's You Tube link upthread is 'not available in my country'.

wld 100% watch a show of the 2 chick co-workers of hannah from this ep

didn't really laff at this one

No girlz talk this week

http://www.npr.org/2012/05/07/152183865/lena-dunham-addresses-criticism-aimed-at-girls?ps=cprs

On her relationship with her parents

"When I graduated [from] college, my parents said, 'You can live with us,' but they made it really clear they were not going to support any of my endeavors. They were like, 'You can live with us and that's a great gift we can give you, but you have to have a job, you have to figure out, like we did, how to have a creative life, and we're giving you a great step ahead by already living in the city you want to be in, but we're not going to serve that function for you. Our parents didn't do it for us, and we don't think it's healthy.' "

I don't totally understand this - they offered her a place to live but didn't give her walking around money or wouldn't help her find a job or what?

she wasn't going to be able to lounge around or be a trustafarian, she had to have a job even though they were letting her stay rent-free
pretty clear, tbh

yeah, that's why my brother ended up sleeping in the barn.

More like they gave her a place to stay and supported her finding a job, instead of letting her stay and eat while "writing the great american novel" or w/e. My dad, who thinks the world ends if you do not have a job at all times, would kind of unconsciously surface this as "how's the job hunt going?"

john cook's episode recaps of this show on Gawker are really bad. like, 'he needs an editor to tell him to stop writing like that' bad.

hah shit got mad real at tender boyfriends rock show

i think it's funny how the gawker recaps only refer to the characters as their fathers' daughters. THAT IS SO FUNNY AND NOT PLAYED OUT AT ALL.

I can understand not knowing the characters' names (there's British girl, SATC girl, Lena Dunham and yuppie IMO - along with sensitive boyfriend, douchebag, aging slacker husband and guy from Tiny Furniture), but that's pretty ridic.

douchebag can either be the artist or Lena's fuckbuddy

We did this upthread

britchick looking to unionize the nannies was pretty in character
lena with the paralegal pool maybe somewhat less so

http://maxgif.com/13u

Her eyebrows were killing me

I don't relate to this show one bit.

what's the obstacle?

I guess I feel like I relate to Angela Chase on My So-Called Life and Lindsey Weir from Freaks & Geeks far more, to draw parallels from other 'girl'-centric shows.

Come on, it's only been four out of ten episodes. Give it a chance!

I don't particularly relate to anybody on this show and I was largely appalled by the characters at first but since it keeps making me laugh, I'm sticking with it. It's also kind of fun to be reminded how callow I was at their age, too.

Her eyebrows were killing me

yes! and that she kept them like that all day+night!

i love Angela Chase and Lindsey Weir too but in a high-school relating way, which is more of a friendly nostalgia with minor cringing at recognition of self. there's really something in Hannah that i somewhat shamefully relate to in an oh-my-god-agh-look-back-at-my-early-mid-20s-and-cringe-but-not-hate way.

i think they looked amazing? like i think she should keep them for the rest of the series + her life

xp

i thought that if they were a little toned down, they'd be perfect! (but i have never nearly approached that level of eyebrow make-up myself)

Still liking this show a lot. This episode seemed a little more 'typical sitcom' in its pacing though, and then afterward I noticed it was the first one she didn't direct herself.

I loved that caveman bf loved the eyebrows!

"you look like a mexican teenager"

!

Yeah, I dunno, at 24 I was living in a depressing apartment by the Interstate, chain smoking out my window every night, posting to ILX all the time; I never dated (or fucked) anyone, and all my friends were dudes who lived in a warehouse. I also had a pretty good job. I've always felt pretty sure of myself as an adult. I guess maybe this is just another illustration about how adolescence keeps being extended further and further into one's 20's and 30's.