Anyone cited "Mom" yet?
If you have a British West Midlands accent you use Mom. I don't really have much of my regional accent remaining, but I still say Mom. People who are not from that area take the piss out of me constantly for "sounding like an American."
I do say hey to greet people, but I've picked that up from the Americans I work with. I've also picked up starting sentences with 'So...' which is driving my boyfriend crackers.
― Anna, Friday, 29 June 2007 10:36 (eighteen years ago)
I thought brums said it more like "moom" though? The ones Ive known anyway.
― Trayce, Friday, 29 June 2007 10:38 (eighteen years ago)
Depending on where you are in the UK, just about any vowel or diphthong can go between the Ms.
― Ed, Friday, 29 June 2007 10:39 (eighteen years ago)
You're in trouble now Trayce.
what's wrong with 'so...'?!
i think i just like americanisms, and i'm hooked on american tv partly just for the back-and-forth, new idioms, rhythms, etc.; it's proof of linguistic vitality or something.
― That one guy that quit, Friday, 29 June 2007 10:40 (eighteen years ago)
what EVERRR
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 29 June 2007 10:42 (eighteen years ago)
Yeah I'm really astonished by some of the things deemed Americanisms here!
― DJ Mencap, Friday, 29 June 2007 10:44 (eighteen years ago)
If you have a British West Midlands accent you use Mom.
― Colonel Poo, Friday, 29 June 2007 10:45 (eighteen years ago)
Why am I in trouble now? Oh dear.
― Trayce, Friday, 29 June 2007 10:46 (eighteen years ago)
I remember about seven years ago myself and loads of people I hung out with started saying douchebag all the time, having just been introduced to it by one, or both, of Daphne & Celeste. Good times
― DJ Mencap, Friday, 29 June 2007 10:46 (eighteen years ago)
yet/already with the simple past tense. "Did you do it yet?" Don't think that's really crossed over to the UK.
― Zelda Zonk, Friday, 29 June 2007 10:48 (eighteen years ago)
Birmingham is a very different part of the world from where Anna comes from. The West Midlands is the Balkans of British Regional Identities and accents.
― Ed, Friday, 29 June 2007 10:49 (eighteen years ago)
uh?
xpost
― That one guy that quit, Friday, 29 June 2007 10:49 (eighteen years ago)
The West Midlands is the Balkans of British Regional Identities and accents.
― Colonel Poo, Friday, 29 June 2007 10:51 (eighteen years ago)
xpost to the "uh"
I would say "have you done it yet?" "Did you do it yet?" sounds American to me. Maybe I'm behind the times though.
― Zelda Zonk, Friday, 29 June 2007 10:51 (eighteen years ago)
Ah I see sorry, I used "brum" in a lazy sense. My ex was from Rugely. I didnt know the West was its own world!
― Trayce, Friday, 29 June 2007 10:52 (eighteen years ago)
ok the explanation of how they say 'book' in northern england basically made me realize that everything i know of their accents i learned from paul's grandad in 'a hard day's night'
But Paul's grandad is Irish!
― Tom D., Friday, 29 June 2007 11:04 (eighteen years ago)
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i might say either one of those. plenty of things, like saying 'today' for 'to-day' are really americanisms, or were considered so 80 years ago...
― That one guy that quit, Friday, 29 June 2007 11:14 (eighteen years ago)
It's definitely creeping in. I blame Friends. Also the 'have' v 'have got' thing. Both are acceptable, but in Britain it's more common to say "I've got a pen" / "Have you got a pen?" / "Yes, I have" than "I have a pen" / "Do you have a pen?" / "Yes, I do". But the other 'have' thing seems to be growing and leading to mangled hybrid exchanges like "Have you got any money?" "Yes, I do".
― Nasty, Brutish & Short, Friday, 29 June 2007 12:29 (eighteen years ago)
But the other 'have' thing seems to be growing and leading to mangled hybrid exchanges like "Have you got any money?" "Yes, I do".
"Yes, I do got money" is the correct response
― Tom D., Friday, 29 June 2007 12:32 (eighteen years ago)
word
― That one guy that quit, Friday, 29 June 2007 12:42 (eighteen years ago)
i'm not sure what y'all trying to protect.
I'm conflicted about how Americanisms have impacted on British speech but I don't obsess over it, especially not on weekends... well, not for the longest time, anyways... and I am usually the world's champion at that sort of thing... sir
― Tom D., Friday, 29 June 2007 12:46 (eighteen years ago)
one americanism i've found myself using but not understanding is along the lines of "not that big of a deal". what is up with that?
― That one guy that quit, Friday, 29 June 2007 12:48 (eighteen years ago)
Well I was going to say no British person would ever say "y'all"...
Not trying to protect anything. But I think it's interesting what crosses the Atlantic, and what doesn't.
― Zelda Zonk, Friday, 29 June 2007 12:51 (eighteen years ago)
some Midlanders would say "mam" right?
― blueski, Friday, 29 June 2007 12:52 (eighteen years ago)
Cotton candy.
― Matt DC, Friday, 29 June 2007 12:59 (eighteen years ago)
Taffy
― Tom D., Friday, 29 June 2007 13:02 (eighteen years ago)
How do Americans pronounce 'Mom' anyway(s)? Because the sound that most English people use in 'bomb' doesn't seem to exist in America.
― Nasty, Brutish & Short, Friday, 29 June 2007 13:03 (eighteen years ago)
Does anyone use commode?
― Ms Misery, Friday, 29 June 2007 13:24 (eighteen years ago)
Aluminum
― Tom D., Friday, 29 June 2007 13:25 (eighteen years ago)
Really? My husband is from the West Midlands and neither he nor any of his friends or family say Mom. They definitely all say Mum.
― ENBB, Friday, 29 June 2007 13:40 (eighteen years ago)
Where in the West Midlands?
― Colonel Poo, Friday, 29 June 2007 13:44 (eighteen years ago)
The tropical paradise known to most as Coventry. Heh.
― ENBB, Friday, 29 June 2007 13:45 (eighteen years ago)
"Have you got any money?" "Yes, I do"
What about the past tense of get i.e. gotten vs got?
― Colonel Poo, Friday, 29 June 2007 13:46 (eighteen years ago)
Sadly, I've never been to Coventry. Sent people there, like.
― Colonel Poo, Friday, 29 June 2007 13:47 (eighteen years ago)
See, this doesn't work in Scotland, 'cos the answers always "Naw"
― Tom D., Friday, 29 June 2007 13:48 (eighteen years ago)
we have had the "gotten" discussion here before; i believe the brits think "gotten" is ugly and possibly dangerous
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 29 June 2007 13:49 (eighteen years ago)
ill-gotten
― Ms Misery, Friday, 29 June 2007 13:49 (eighteen years ago)
Does 'Darn Tooting' get said in the US?
― Ed, Friday, 29 June 2007 13:49 (eighteen years ago)
Gotten is old school, like 17th century or sumthin'
― Tom D., Friday, 29 June 2007 13:50 (eighteen years ago)
britishes need to chillax
― That one guy that quit, Friday, 29 June 2007 13:51 (eighteen years ago)
If you ask "have you got", then grammatically the reply should be "yes I have", and if you ask "do you have", then the reply is "do you have". I think that's the point being made above.
As for got/gotten, I think there's an age cut-off. People (in the UK) over the age of 30 or so use "got" as past partciple, younger people use "gotten".
― Zelda Zonk, Friday, 29 June 2007 13:51 (eighteen years ago)
OK I just reread that post and I see that you meant the reply should be "Yes, I have" instead of "Yes, I do". I don't think that's an Americanism either though. Using "do" in place of other verbs surely is an integral part of the English language?
― Colonel Poo, Friday, 29 June 2007 13:51 (eighteen years ago)
xpost Aaargh, the reply to the second is "yes I do"
― Zelda Zonk, Friday, 29 June 2007 13:52 (eighteen years ago)
x post to TomD. - Coventry is not a very exciting place but it's not nearly as bad as people make it out to be. It's kind of grim but so are a lot of other places! I was expecting much worse based on what I'd been told.
I've never heard it said other than in jest.
― ENBB, Friday, 29 June 2007 13:52 (eighteen years ago)
Is "pesky" still in common usage in the US?
― Tom D., Friday, 29 June 2007 13:55 (eighteen years ago)
also:
"you want that i" vs "do you want me to" FITE!
― CharlieNo4, Friday, 29 June 2007 13:55 (eighteen years ago)
ironic slang is the old/new ironic dancing
xxpost yes, why wouldn't it be?
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 29 June 2007 13:55 (eighteen years ago)
Charlie that's a whole 'nother topic
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 29 June 2007 13:56 (eighteen years ago)