Match of the Day vs The Premiership

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junior eurovision was really rather good

Porkpie (porkpie), Monday, 22 November 2004 22:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Silly me didn't know it was on.

People think Matt DC is American because he is always talking about his Spurs.

That was a funny goal last night. The Nun was particularly beatific after the match. I may start referring to Villa as 'we' for the duration of this good spell.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 09:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I told the Pinefox over pie on Sunday that there was no way Spurs would lose yet another consecutive game. I feel bad - I've let him down, I've let meself down and, most of all, I've let the pie down.

Meanwhile, in Smug Before The Fall news, I would like to point out that the last time Everton started a season 9-2-3 we won the title by 13 points with five games to spare. So this season is already shaping up to be a disappointment.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 10:33 (twenty-one years ago)

David Moyes is the new, er, Mike Walker

Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 10:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I tried to listen to this match on the radio but Graham Taylor was whining on, and I couldn't take his bottomless gormlessness for more than ten seconds.

'Bottomless Gormless' - unreleased Kraftwerk classic.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 10:37 (twenty-one years ago)

four weeks pass...
I watched Hitchcock's VERTIGO last night and early on in the film James Stewart appears to be doing a very plausible ALAN HANSEN impersonation. Could it be that ALAN HANSEN's entire screen persona is based on James Stewart's combination of bewilderment and indignation?

PS: The film was a game of two halves.

Puddin'Head Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 09:42 (twenty-one years ago)

ten months pass...
Is the place where we roffle at Tony Blair on Football Focus?

ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 5 November 2005 12:41 (twenty years ago)

SHIT! I missed it! Highlights plz.

Masked Gazza, Saturday, 5 November 2005 12:57 (twenty years ago)

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAAAHAAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!

He hearts Steed Malbranque

Matt (Matt), Saturday, 5 November 2005 13:09 (twenty years ago)

He was fucking terrifed when they were playing the recording of him talking about Milburn. Good to see him engage with the terracing issue. It's like he used to think they should be brought back a few years ago. Ho hum.

Dave B (daveb), Saturday, 5 November 2005 13:24 (twenty years ago)

Motson asked him if he was going to follow Alan Shearer and retire.

Blair would have Alex Ferguson in the Cabinet. He doesn't go to matches because people force him into executive boxes and make him talk about politics.

He looked terrified, and a bit either asleep, unsure, or waiting for prompting. He kept pausing and didn't sound at all convincing about anything.

ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 5 November 2005 13:32 (twenty years ago)

Looked like he had quite a buff chest underneath that purple shirt, though.

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Saturday, 5 November 2005 13:49 (twenty years ago)

and unless I'm entirely mistaken, T-minus 2 weeks to MES doing Final Score...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 5 November 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)

Briliant stuff when he talked about being given his briefing beforehand and what he'd been told to say. So he said it.

Ally C (Ally C), Saturday, 5 November 2005 14:49 (twenty years ago)

Blair bigs up Malbranque and within three hours he's scored his first goal of the season. He da PM.

Alba (Alba), Saturday, 5 November 2005 15:08 (twenty years ago)

I've just realised that might look like it's supposed to be some kind of racist joke. It's not. Malbranque's scored again!

Alba (Alba), Saturday, 5 November 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

And now Teddy's scored!

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Saturday, 5 November 2005 16:31 (twenty years ago)

TB must be dynamite in the Cabinet fantasy football league.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Saturday, 5 November 2005 16:32 (twenty years ago)

I liked how he would chose Ferguson to be in his cabinet. A fiery Scotsman who can't have anything other than top job? Whatever next?

Nick H (Nick H), Saturday, 5 November 2005 20:43 (twenty years ago)

I would be terrified too.

I would like to see Motty on Question Time. No, seriously.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 7 November 2005 08:16 (twenty years ago)

Motty was determined to get the questions in while Manish looked a bit out of his depth and was kind of shunted out. Blair wasn't awfully convincing. Oh, and Lawro enjoyed being able to be awkward to the PM on live TV, but didn't really bring anything to the discussion.

Cracks (Crackity), Monday, 7 November 2005 20:50 (twenty years ago)

Nick H makes a good point.

So does PJM. I would, too.

Blair was embarrassingly nervy and deferential, as he is in 'non-political' scenarios. Yet it cannot be said that his judgement of footy matters was altogether awry: as Alba and JtN point out, his judgements were oddly accurate.

Boyle is absolutely right to say that Blair looked terrified when they replayed the old radio interview. It was as though, having just made a claim, it was going to be undermined 30 seconds later, and we were about to see him lying outright on live TV, as it happened. It would have been so emblematic. And this is just Football Focus.

But it did not happen; the tape proved his innocence - which perhaps makes me wonder why he looked so scared.

On the whole, otherwise, he was fairly uncontroversial and unenlightening. Surely he could at least, for instance, have said that Supporters' Trusts are a good thing? But then, perhaps he doesn't think they are.

A terrific photo in the next day's paper showed him talking afterwards, not with Lawro and Manish (sp?) but with... Hansen... Lineker... and ... yes: the man who cut his political teeth on Dispatch Box: CROOKSY!

the pinefox, Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:27 (twenty years ago)

BTW, I was hoping, I was hoping that this thread, that this thread would be revived, in order to talk about, to talk about, have a look at this - the moment when MOTD2 suddenly started showing, suddenly started showing, Panorama.

the bellefox, Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:29 (twenty years ago)

I heard a funny story about Garth Crooks on the radio the other day, but I can't remember what it was.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)

Worst post ever!

the bellefox, Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)

I have remembered what it was.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:32 (twenty years ago)

Well, maybe not worst ever - it did at least mention Garth Crooks.

the bellefox, Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:32 (twenty years ago)

Yes, I thought that was enough, really.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

The story was from that American fellow (Greg?) on 5Live's Fighting Talk, who seems to eager to be one of the boys, and is, I suppose.

He said when he was first over in England on some job, he was working with Garth Crooks, who proved unable or unwilling to remember Greg's face, and instead introduced himself or asked Greg who he was over and over again.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

It was perhaps not so funny.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)

I would be flattered to be asked who I was by Garth Crooks.

The more times the better.

the bellefox, Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)

Would you be flattered if I asked you who you were next time I saw you? I will, if you like.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:44 (twenty years ago)

That sounds as though I am comparing myself to Garth Crooks, which would be inappropriate.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:46 (twenty years ago)

Yes - let's not aim too high. We'll only be disappointed.

the bellefox, Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:58 (twenty years ago)

Is it me or does Hansen spoil MOTD2? He sits there like a fucking critic waiting for the others to do something wrong. The whole atmosphere is all wrong. It reminded me of that awful time he was on Frank Skinner's show and was giving it "Says something funny then! Come on Frank you're supposed to be funnier than that! MAKE US LAUGH FRANK!"

Arsehole.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 17:10 (twenty years ago)

yeah he only works with Lineker I think (perhaps better than he did with Lynam, but that's probably down to his own increase in experience more than any other factor).

Lineker continues to flourish imo - maybe it's taken for granted? but he's at the top of his game, the presenting game that is.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 18:32 (twenty years ago)

One thing that feaks me out - Lineker changes his jokes for the morning repeat - "He'll have to wait till tomorrow/this afternoon to spy on Chelsea!"

Apprently he was/is going to be on Breakfast this morning. We the viewers were invited to try and stump him with tricky questions about Leicester.

As you can see, I am already hard at work, so I couldn't watch it.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 08:47 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...
Chiles on poor form on MOTD2. Last night: "So Laurie let's talk about Giggs..he's...he's good in' he"

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Monday, 12 December 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)

He's always on poor form!

Lawrie Sanchez seemed an utter bastard to me - and believe it or not, that came as a surprise.

I heard Des on Parkinson yesterday, both of them saying TV critics are impotent, ie. don't matter. In a way, it was a relaxed, engaging meeting of two broadcasting greats - well, one great, with some geezer from Yorkshire. But in a way, also, it was two rich fellows chuckling over the complacency they can now get away with.

the bellefox, Monday, 12 December 2005 17:24 (twenty years ago)

four years pass...

Just realized that the start of this thread directly coincided with the arrival of the TACTICS TRUCK. It's like finding a tablet of stone recording the parting of the Red Sea.

Steady Mike and I last night watched Tyldesley rather than BBC, if only cos, in Mike's spontaneously superb formulation, Guy Mowbray has third place play-off written all over him.

It's one thing not to be able to replace David Coleman or Barry Davies. But making Guy Mowbray your #1 commentator and giving him the World Cup Final?

the pinefox, Monday, 12 July 2010 09:03 (fifteen years ago)

I don't recall noticing Mowbray much, which is how I want it from my commentators frankly.

Is it me or does Hansen spoil MOTD2? He sits there like a fucking critic waiting for the others to do something wrong. The whole atmosphere is all wrong. It reminded me of that awful time he was on Frank Skinner's show and was giving it "Says something funny then! Come on Frank you're supposed to be funnier than that! MAKE US LAUGH FRANK!"
Arsehole.

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Tuesday, November 8, 2005 5:10 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Still true. The main problem for me is that the bbc studio is always full of unpleasant people who poison the atmosphere. You need no hansen, no shearer and no lawrenson before it becomes decent watching. ITV is almost always more pleasant now but the adverts are killer. I rarely bother with the punditry now, it's only worth it for the replays.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 12 July 2010 09:33 (fifteen years ago)

Guy Mowbray may not be a marquee name but he can't possibly be worse than Tyldesley can he? I get more than enough Clive over the course of the season as it is.

Apparently Alan Hansen is actually a pretty nice guy in real life, he's getting increasingly half-arsed when it comes to his hardman act. I can cope with either Hansen or Shearer on their own, together they're appalling. Here's hoping Shearer gets a job in management sometime soon.

Can't be doing with Lawro or Townsend at all, for entirely different reasons.

Matt DC, Monday, 12 July 2010 09:41 (fifteen years ago)

started watching bbc coverage last night but eventually had to switch to itv due to lawro's constant negative vibes complaining about a shit game. but then itv weren't much better. personally thought it was a good game.

Guru Meditation (Ste), Monday, 12 July 2010 09:44 (fifteen years ago)

Don't wish to wallow in the past, but this thread was really something in 2004-05. Perhaps it can be again...

Michael Jones, Monday, 12 July 2010 09:48 (fifteen years ago)

From The Fiver the other day:

What's got eight arms, no spine and makes wild predictions about football matches without having a clue?

The Match of the Day panel.

James Mitchell, Monday, 12 July 2010 09:55 (fifteen years ago)

Seemed to be some distinct bad vibes between Shearer and Hansen throughout the BBC's coverage, I think. Following his failure at the Lolcastle, it feels like Shearer realises punditry is his only career now, thinks he needs to make some kind of panel powergrab and has become even more boorish as a result.

The combination of Lineker - who, after all these years, still feels like a supply teacher who thinks he's still one of the kids - Shearer, Hansen and Dixon/Lawro is absolutely deadly. They really need a European/South American/Hodgson-style eminence grise to make them up their game.

Stevie T, Monday, 12 July 2010 09:57 (fifteen years ago)

I don't particularly warm to Lineker, but I have to admit he's a fine presenter and does a decent line in deadpan. There was one bit in the lead-up yesterday where Lineker was running through the Dutch penalty in the 74 final and pointed out the foul might have been outside the box "... but they didn't have technology in those days".

A couple of seconds later Shearer got it and bellowed "THEY DON'T HAVE IT NOW!!". He does this all the time, and it's starting to crack me up.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 12 July 2010 10:08 (fifteen years ago)

I realised how good Lineker was in 2006, when they had the likes of Ian Wright and Leonardo in the studio dropping enormous clangers and the thing kept threatening to spin out of control and Lineker would get things back on track with a knowing look to the audience. Leonardo talking about golden showers and Lineker going "well at least you all now know it's not scripted" was a classic.

Amid the torpor of 2010's panel, not so much.

Matt DC, Monday, 12 July 2010 10:18 (fifteen years ago)

BBC badly missed Martin O'Neill this time round.

Venga, Monday, 12 July 2010 10:42 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah Seedorf only partly made up for O'Neill's absence.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 12 July 2010 10:44 (fifteen years ago)


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