Doctor Who 2008: Sontarans cometh, RTD Ood 'ave 'im etc.

Wow, I couldn't disagree more. I've only ever seen a total of about three minutes of her previous work -- could that make a difference? Cause I believe every single thing she does in this show. It could just be down to me liking her character a lot more. Imagine her dealing with Captain Jack, for instance.

I liked how she's been in what, four episodes so far and she's already had a montage flashback!

ha I hated that bit - it would have played better and funnier if that montage had run before she totally psyched the Doc out with her "I have to go home" routine.

But I did love how she and Martha get along instantly and there's no Rose-Sarah Jane type bickering at all.

i would like Sontaran/Judoon army/police face-off - surely the latter are harder

I thought this while watching, but then the Judoon are basically too thick to be much of a match for an alien race with proper strategies.

I am absolutely looking forward to a Donna-Jack moment.

I like the suggestion that once you hand the reins of empire over to a bratty, dickish American he'll immediately encourage fuel consumption, cut deals with warmongers and threaten to engulf us all in a planet-wide conflagration

I'm expecting nobody smashed in the car window with a brick or something because that's how they're going to resolve the crisis next week - they always resolve cliffhangers but doing something cheap and easy. Like saying "Go to your room!" to the gas mask monsters, or, um, however they didn't die in the Dalek two-parter last year ("hey Human Dalek, don't kill us." "Okay.")

"Go to your room" was genuinely clever and unexpected though. The Dalek one was a bit crap, yeah. That's the trouble with bathos as a dramatic device, it's very easy to overuse.

i hated the Cyberman one where he did some laser beam thing with a ring he pulled out of nowhere

the Human Dalek thing wasn't a sticky cliffhanger tho. it was just 'heeeey check THIS out'

The human Dalek thing was brilliant, until we saw where it all went.

The Rani absolutely must come back now. Licence to kitsch like crazy.

Somewhere, Lance Parkin is fuming...

"Back of the neck!"

As self-referential gags go the "are you my mummy?" line was a good one.

enjoyed the uk news "it's like dunkirk" and then the american news "it's a biblical plague".

pretty good one, i thought. don't much about who history, so can someone please explain the daughter thing?

When a daddy Timelord and a mummy Timelord love each other very much ...

Oh god. Just dreadful.

What, last night? You SOOO picky. "Back of the neck" was good, "are you my mummy?" was Vince Hilaire.

'Are you my mummy' was misplaced and stupid. The Doctor was out of character, the plot was rubbish, the Sontarans are ever bit as shit as they always were, Martha was pointless, Donna did almost nothing, 1/2 hr of people in silly caps running around shooting things, just crap.

This is why I don't read these threads :(

xp In fact the whole eposide rode on a fetid jetstream of in-jokes and obscure fanwank.

I mean yeah, sorry, I'm not aiming that at you but the whole thing really was awful.

We all watch for different things, I guess.

It's particularly annoying because the new show is regularly witty, clever and involving, but occasionally you get this quasi-Hollywood shallow nonsense. The kiddies probably get a kick out of it.

It's still ostensibly a kids show. To be honest there aren't that many of the "deep" eps that I think are especially awesome, I just try and take the series as the variety bag it is.

The variety is nice, definitely, but when they waste 90 minutes on running around and blowing up things, it's not exactly gratifying to those of us who are bored by that sort of thing.

I'm sure no-one will disagree with me when I say that that was hugely entertaining stuff from beginning to end.

For those of us who still like fun, obviously.

I liked the Mummy line. Made the character more believable, for me.

Rose's face flashed up on the screen in the Tardis, didn't it?

It's getting a bit samey.

I thought I saw Rose being flashed up, yeh.

I rather enjoyed all that. "You will face me, sir!" Although I did think of this thread when doctor was running around making the atmosphere-conversion gizmo that would save the episode while explaining his plan at a frantic pace.

Unbelievably bad. Helen Raynor should never be allowed near the show again.

I LUV YOU YOUR MY FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHMILY is the new running up and down corridors. Utterly pointless and sucks all the momentum out of the show.

Next week looks like a big pile of wank. "Oh yes, when I kept on crying because I was the last one, I was actually lying because I always knew there was another one. Sorry." Plus it was guaranteed as soon as Georgia Moffett was announced that this was what she was doing. OMG THE DAUGHTER OF A DOCTOR IS THE DOCTOR'S DAUGHTER I AM SO CLEVARR BOW DOWN AND WORSHIP ME I AM RUSTY I AM GENIARSE.

aldo otm

i don't usually agree with Autumn Almanac on Who EVER but 'Are you my mummy' was misplaced and stupid. OTM

'whole world under attack' episodes never work for me

Well I thought that was enormous fun.

It was fucking rubbish.

was sad when they shot Stephen Gateley

I missed the end but surely

"in-jokes and obscure fanwank"

is not the same as

"quasi-Hollywood shallow nonsense"

the effects are getting better and better tho. fiery sky all over the planet was good.

Well I thought that was enormous fun.

-- chap, Sunday, 4 May 2008 12:46 (1 hour ago) Link

It was fucking rubbish.

-- Alba, Sunday, 4 May 2008 12:48 (1 hour ago) Link

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I'm on Chap's side. I loved that the Dr had to give the sontarans a choice. And the list of countries with nucleur weapons.

" I loved that the Dr had to give the sontarans a choice" he does this every time.

i thought this was v poor. i've only really liked the first 2 eps so far this series.

I thought that one was bloody great, but then I like it when they do the enormous stupid blockbuster thing. It's for the kids, really, and today's kids would switch off old-Who in seconds.

It's pretty obvious that Timelords will keep coming back for ages, plus the Doctor's daughter looks hott, so I'm looking forward to next week's as well.

'OMG it was just running around shooting things and blowing everything up this would never have happened under William Hartnell YAWN!'

I must admit I have kind of missed Aldo popping up every week to shout 'WANK!' and 'OH JUST FUCK OFF DAVIES!' every so often. Doctor Who threads haven't quite been the same without it.

Who has always done 'save entire Earth from aliens using sticky-back plastic' type thing. When I was a kid I didn't notice this so much tho, or feel a preference for those stories. So tho as an adult I prefer the more subtle/smaller scale problems+solutions stories I'm sure many kids would too.

Holy! Inter-galatic Child Support Payments!

Doctor'll have to sell the Tardis.

So, uh, is that hot blonde woman Susan's mother?

Just found out the hot blonde woman is actually Peter Davison's daughter!

This was mentioned by aldo in disparaging tones above.

she looks like she could be M Pompadour's sprog (but obv not)

"I thought that one was bloody great, but then I like it when they do the enormous stupid blockbuster thing. It's for the kids, really, and today's kids would switch off old-Who in seconds"

well me too. but i still didn't like it. more out of it being so by-the-numbers predictable in every way. and nothing interesting being done with the stuff set up. also this whole story (like the ood one) was like old who - just with better CGI.