yeah that was really wtf
the india layover bit in MI4 was also p uncomfortable
― dayo, Thursday, 3 May 2012 11:14 (twelve years ago) link
"There is a perception that I always like a big team. I can remember talking to [former football manager] Alec Stock when I was at Bournemouth. He used to say when his teams walked out he liked to see men, not boys.
....
"Our game has developed. No one talks about Lee Hendrie being at the club, that big, black, 6ft 6in player beating everybody up [Hendrie, a slight, white, passing midfielder, was on a lengthy loan at Stoke].
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/tony-pulis-the-man-who-moulded-the-potters-892758.html
― nakhchivan, Thursday, 3 May 2012 12:00 (twelve years ago) link
idgi
― suidavyvan eht nioj (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 3 May 2012 12:01 (twelve years ago) link
hes trying to show that he has skilful players at his team rather than just the supposed 'big, black, 6ft 6in player beating everybody up'
― nakhchivan, Thursday, 3 May 2012 12:06 (twelve years ago) link
sentence looks like he called Hendrie black. Do "footie" people talk weird or something
― suidavyvan eht nioj (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 3 May 2012 12:12 (twelve years ago) link
that is him trying to be funny
― nakhchivan, Thursday, 3 May 2012 12:13 (twelve years ago) link
the only issue is whether is he is merely alluding to an idea current among football coaches that black players are thuggish goons and white players are clever & skilful
except that the example he gives only compounds those prejudices, and it isn't introduced in order to criticize them but merely to defend the reputation of his own team (who are mostly thugs, and mostly white)
― nakhchivan, Thursday, 3 May 2012 12:23 (twelve years ago) link
He does mention Salif Diao and Ricardo Fuller as examples of Stoke's skillful side later in that paragraph. Doesn't really mitigate the problem, though.
Is he really wondering why nobody talks about a player they borrowed for half a season five years ago?
― Just like you, except hot (ShariVari), Thursday, 3 May 2012 12:26 (twelve years ago) link
im sports tuomas
― suidavyvan eht nioj (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 3 May 2012 12:29 (twelve years ago) link
there isn't really much reference made to race by english football ppl, even when there is a periodic scandal with some fan or player racially abusing another, the football hierachy/commentariat are pretty much a single voice saying yeah well it's an isolated example, this country is vibrant and multicultural not like russia or spain etc etc
and even though there have been large numbers of black players for two decades, there are hardly any black managers, the executive/managerial culture is largely hidden from view but it's clearly full of insidious racial biases
― nakhchivan, Thursday, 3 May 2012 12:36 (twelve years ago) link
They seem to keep mind of it when it's high-profile enough - there's talk now I understand as to whether the new manager can keep John Terry and Rio Ferdinand in the same team after Terry yelled racist abuse at Ferdinand's younger brother last year.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 3 May 2012 12:43 (twelve years ago) link
yeah well his trial will bring out the usual platitudes, but even if he is convicted the discourse will be about one remedial bawheid who will then get to have racist appended to his list of character defects
that is more or less how ~race~ discourse exists in england, racism is the preserve of racists, that is to say those who are or might be convicted of racially aggravated offences, rather than say the employers whose hiring decisions contribute to the ~50% unemployment rate among young black men
― nakhchivan, Thursday, 3 May 2012 12:52 (twelve years ago) link
http://chronicle.com/blogs/brainstorm/the-most-persuasive-case-for-eliminating-black-studies-just-read-the-dissertations/46346
― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:10 (twelve years ago) link
fuck, who is this person?
http://chronicle.com/blogs/brainstorm/author/nriley
― goole, Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:13 (twelve years ago) link
I am picking on people because they are black (and I am a racist).I am picking on people even though I don’t have a Ph.D.I am picking on people who are too young and inexperienced to defend themselves.I am picking on people even though I haven’t read their entire dissertations.Let me take the first two criticisms first. My qualifications to post on this blog consist of the fact that I have been a journalist writing about higher education…
Let me take the first two criticisms first. My qualifications to post on this blog consist of the fact that I have been a journalist writing about higher education…
Would have been funny if the post ended on the ellipsis.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:15 (twelve years ago) link
This seems a relic of first term Bush for sure.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:16 (twelve years ago) link
srsly *what* is this person?
― i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:30 (twelve years ago) link
http://chronicle.com/blogs/brainstorm/black-studies-part-2-a-response-to-critics/46401
aaron bady comments on this one
― goole, Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:33 (twelve years ago) link
her defence notes that there aren't enough hours in the day to read the things she is demeaning and dismissing
― Bad Company's Drummer's Daughter (stevie), Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:38 (twelve years ago) link
http://chronicle.com/blogs/brainstorm/the-end-of-black-caddies-and-the-medias-racial-headcounting/45326
http://chronicle.com/blogs/brainstorm/priorities-at-the-naacp/38010
― i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:39 (twelve years ago) link
She actually had the nerve to write this:
"Before the NAACP leadership gets on its high horse about this, maybe they should go ask a mother trying to raise kids in an inner-city neighborhood how she feels about this, whether she minds if the guy trying to sell drugs to her 12-year-old is put away for a long time."
!!!
― i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:40 (twelve years ago) link
"Hey, NAACP. Maybe you ought to talk to some real BLACK PEOPLE and see what THEY think."
― i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:41 (twelve years ago) link
fucking morons and their "brainstorms"
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:42 (twelve years ago) link
so does freddie de boer! its the grad students blogger all stars in those comments! xxxxp
― max, Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:42 (twelve years ago) link
Drug-legalization proponents across the political spectrum often claim that there would be less violence if drugs were not part of a black market. But I can’t help but wonder whether people inclined to try to make money on the black market wouldn’t simply turn to other kinds of merchandise. Gun-running seems profitable, for instance.
brainstorm!
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:44 (twelve years ago) link
if drugs were legalized, all drug dealers would turn into gun runners, and there would be a guy selling baggies of automatic weapons on the corner of every street
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:45 (twelve years ago) link
#raceideas
― i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:46 (twelve years ago) link
Oh god I just handed her a half-dozen page hits.
From the original Times article she is commenting on:
“A guy can make six figures a year on a decent bag now, but the players want to have family members, people that are close to them and who they can relate to on their bags,” said Carl Jackson, one of the few remaining black caddies who will work Augusta this week. The black caddies who remain are on the Nationwide Tour, golf’s version of Class AAA, he added. “Or they don’t get a job at all,” he said. “They’re a dying breed.” Their demise can be traced to other things as well — the ubiquity of the motorized golf cart and the subsequent slashing of caddie training programs, as well as this: the job is not as attractive to blacks who have more career opportunities than previous generations. For the older black caddies, the situation is not without its bitter irony: when the prize money was modest, they were the standard; when the money became huge, they became disposable.
The black caddies who remain are on the Nationwide Tour, golf’s version of Class AAA, he added.
“Or they don’t get a job at all,” he said. “They’re a dying breed.”
Their demise can be traced to other things as well — the ubiquity of the motorized golf cart and the subsequent slashing of caddie training programs, as well as this: the job is not as attractive to blacks who have more career opportunities than previous generations. For the older black caddies, the situation is not without its bitter irony: when the prize money was modest, they were the standard; when the money became huge, they became disposable.
From her post:
In other words, discrimination is not at the root of every disparity. And the end of discrimination may even cause greater disparities.
― a la bouquet marmoset (Austerity Ponies), Friday, 4 May 2012 14:39 (twelve years ago) link
what the FUCK
― I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Friday, 4 May 2012 14:40 (twelve years ago) link
her posts have in common a remarkable ability to synthesize information and then completely ignore it
― Scott, bass player for Tenth Avenue North (Hurting 2), Friday, 4 May 2012 14:41 (twelve years ago) link
omg why have you told me about this horrible person, ilx?
― horseshoe, Friday, 4 May 2012 14:48 (twelve years ago) link
^^^ OTM
― I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Friday, 4 May 2012 14:50 (twelve years ago) link
Here's a story one of my pubs did on Carl Jackson last year.
― pplains, Friday, 4 May 2012 14:51 (twelve years ago) link
If anyone wants to cleanse their palette a little.
― Scott, bass player for Tenth Avenue North (Hurting 2), Friday, May 4, 2012 9:41 AM (46 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I think this is what is most striking about her writing. The counter-argument is actually imbedded in her own text, yet somehow she is completely unable to see how it undermines her own concluseions.
― a la bouquet marmoset (Austerity Ponies), Friday, 4 May 2012 15:31 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/double_standard_TFPqqilUHif01I9BKkQSkN/1
ladies and gentlemen, the ny post:
Nets on Jay-Z track As long as the Nets are allowing Jay-Z to call their marketing shots — what a shock that he chose black and white as the new team colors to stress, as the Nets explained, their new “urban” home — why not have him apply the full Jay-Z treatment? Why the Brooklyn Nets when they can be the New York N------s? The cheerleaders could be the Brooklyn B----hes or Hoes. Team logo? A 9 mm with hollow-tip shell casings strewn beneath. Wanna be Jay-Z hip? Then go all the way!
― iatee, Friday, 4 May 2012 16:24 (twelve years ago) link
jesus
― Bad Company's Drummer's Daughter (stevie), Friday, 4 May 2012 16:26 (twelve years ago) link
If they really wanted to be "Jay-Z hip" they would have a brilliantly-colored uniform co-designed by Louis Vuitton and Takashi Murakami
― Scott, bass player for Tenth Avenue North (Hurting 2), Friday, 4 May 2012 16:29 (twelve years ago) link
wow
― l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 4 May 2012 16:29 (twelve years ago) link
you couldn't tell if they were "hollow-tip" from the shell casings. faker!
― goole, Friday, 4 May 2012 16:30 (twelve years ago) link
yeah
Phil Mushnick everyone
― Scott, bass player for Tenth Avenue North (Hurting 2), Friday, 4 May 2012 16:31 (twelve years ago) link
The Brooklyn B's would be a dope cheerleading squad; beyonce could leadalso, how quickly they forget: http://www.motheringhut.com/images/art_fever.jpg
― (Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Friday, 4 May 2012 16:31 (twelve years ago) link
he's not a business man he's a contributing greatly to our local economy while offending the delicate conservative sensibilities of a shill working for a corrupt media company man
― (Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Friday, 4 May 2012 16:33 (twelve years ago) link
can we change the title of this thread to "let's congratulate ourselves for not being THAT white person" since that's what this thread has turned into
― I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Friday, 4 May 2012 16:42 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.columbiacountyobserver.com/master_files/images/2009_County_News_images/09_0319_Fl_Crown.jpg
"And in other news, we've found more examples of racism on the Internet. You all want to hear about it?"
― pplains, Friday, 4 May 2012 16:47 (twelve years ago) link
this is the 4th largest newspaper in the country!
― iatee, Friday, 4 May 2012 16:49 (twelve years ago) link
Pretty sure the Observer is far down on the list.
― pplains, Friday, 4 May 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link
suggesting that he might as well name the cheerleaders "Brooklyn Bitches" because that's HOW HE DOi think it's a lil bit racistit's primarily a lil bit stupid
― (Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Friday, 4 May 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago) link
NY Post is the worst newspaper in the world
― Mordy, Friday, 4 May 2012 16:57 (twelve years ago) link
I thought that distinction fell to Every British Paper Except the Guardian
― raw feel vegan (silby), Friday, 4 May 2012 17:01 (twelve years ago) link