ILX running running thread

today i started the running group thing i mentioned upthread and it was actually fun! i hadn't run very far yet this year because of where i run there is a big hill that causes me to quit when i'm done but on the flat i managed to cover 3 miles and did better than all but like 2 people. i am proud!

*epic 8-minute guitar solo on a mountaintop in harbl's honor*

\(o_o)/
but i should note none of these people are expert runners!

running w/people is fun

Let's go for a run.

where should the ilx marathon be

hooray harbl!!

got shin splints last year, stopped running, got new shoes (went to a gait analysis place for appropriate shoes) and after about a week of running (just 3x in that week, and very short distances), it's starting to feel tender again. aggh! i just want to run...i have developed a very strong aversion to the elliptical, while running is therapeutic.

I've just resigned myself that I'm going to live my life on the cusp of injury, if not completely injured. It's a mentally exhausting place to be, but I see no alternatives at this point.

With chronic injury, there are just too many variables. You can change one thing, let some time pass and you may get better, but you don't know if the thing you changed help or if it was there mere passage of time. Then the injury comes back again, so you change something and then something else starts hurting. Then you still have the original injury to deal with along with this brand new injury. Now you are trying to isolate causes for two injuries at the same. Meanwhile you mind is completely screwing with you, second guessing every single pain. Afraid of the worst, you just end up running less and end up feeling unfulfilled by your running. Good times.

Afraid of the worst, you just end up running less and end up feeling unfulfilled by your running

this is me! i run and think to myself, this is fantastic, wouldn't it be fabulous if i could just keep running like this? and then 5 minutes later, i get some pangs in my shins and then i get worried and decide i have to stop (because last year, i ran through the pain, and that was a BAD IDEA...)

running through the pain is a bad idea. stretching properly after a run is a very good one. if you don't do it already you must start.

& these strengthening exercises are a big help too.

http://www.sportsinjuryclinic.net/sport-injuries/ankle-achilles-shin-pain/shin-splints/shin-splints-strengthening-exercises

Other things people will tell you to do because it solved all their problems:

Forefoot/midfoot strike
Increase your cadence
Stretch before running
Stretch after running
Don't stretch
Wear more expensive shoes
Wear minimal shoes
Wear no shoes
Chi/Pose running
"core" exercises
Countless alternate medicine BS solutions
Run more
Run less
Pool run
Cross train
Quit running

i think just ~listen to yr body~

this is p cool tho too

Run more
Run less
Pool run

eh stretching is pretty key, especially if you've had injuries in the past.

i never stretch

Listen to your body is the worst advice. Because no one can do it, too many cognitive biases, subjectivity of pain, etc.

some people don't need to but most people should.

Plenty of recent research that shows stretching does no good.

Listen to your body is the worst advice. Because no one can do it, too many cognitive biases, subjectivity of pain, etc.

― Jeff, Wednesday, May 2, 2012 5:34 PM (23 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you need to find some positivity within yrself man

i've honestly never heard anyone claim that but whatever.

its been all over the news

ive seen some experts say pre run stretching is dangerous and counterproductive and should be totally abandoned

you need to find some positivity within yrself man

Ha, you're right about that.

At least in regards to running. I'm pretty positive otherwise.

i think im gonna start running w/my garmin again and try to motivate myself or w/e

been doing some plyometrics recently, its p fun

i want to try to do these mile long intervals at threshold that ive heard are good, but it sounds painful

I heard Garmins cause injury. And maybe the swine flu.

damn thats prob where i got the swine flu then

i never ever stretch, it's just too much hassle for me. i had shin splints for 4 months last year but since going back running in autumn i've barely had a twinge in any muscle. my caveat would be that i really think listening to your body is only possible with a decent bit of experience under your belt, at the start you can't distinguish a fleeting pain you should run through and an injury.

running totally cured my shin splints, so my advice is to just keep running (bad advice)

my advice also is to constantly be paying attention to yr form, this might just be how i entertain myself tho

stopping running then running cured my shin splints.

More things you can do:

Run slower
Run faster
foam roll
Lose weight
Gain weight

i stretch but i don't know how well/properly done my stretches are :/

but other than the knee issue that i went to the physio for, and then a minor fibroid issue, i've been lucky with injuries. i currently live with a physio so am confident that if any problems arise they can be dealt with.

I'm going for a run right now. I'm really going to listen to my body and report back to the thread.

ive seen some experts say pre run stretching is dangerous and counterproductive and should be totally abandoned

have read plenty of stuff saying no stretching necessary.

i love foam rolling

i don't really stretch. there are some exercises i would like to do that require more flexibility than i have though. so i guess maybe i should. anyway i'm pretty excited about running atm but sore. not going today. i went yesterday and ran uphill a lot again. i'm going to be a powerhouse!

hills are awesome once you get into them

hills rule

Ok, I listened to my body. It didn't have much to say today.

Mile 1 - 8:22 - Body says I feel OK.
Mile 2 - 8:09 - Body says hey that was faster, but I could never maintain it because I'm a damn fool and I might as well give up. Fuck you body.
Mile 3 - 8:30 - Motherfucking body, you may have been right. But I'm not having any pain right now, so I will now defy you. Body's suck.
Mile 4 - 8:18 - Body says to stop at Weiner Circle and get a hot dog or ten. I ignore the body and run faster. Ha, take that body.

You have a weird relationship with your body.

When I came back to running again this year, I was very conscious about protecting myself from old injuries and I just started plodding around with barely any knee lift or back lift and not much knee bend either and this has left me with some sort of weird power-shuffle running style which neither looks right nor feels right at all. So now I'm trying to unlearn that and teach myself to run all over again, but I've kind of forgotten how to do it and I just feel totally herky-jerky at the moment. Strangely the only thing that does feel right is running up hills so yeah, I'm planing on doing a lot of that in the hope that it'll help.

You have a weird relationship with your body.

Oh I know it.

It was a pretty good run though. I'm no where close to marathon shape, but hopefully I can build up a small base before real training starts in June. Looking forward to a longish run this weekend to see how it goes.

i have run 3 miles 3 times this week! plus 1.5 on the schedule's easy day. that's the most i have run in one week in like 2 years! now i have a salty crust on me.

i had shin splints for 4 months last year but since going back running in autumn i've barely had a twinge in any muscle.

did you do anything special to recover in between? or just laid off the running? i'm gonna try some of the exercises listed above, since i laid off running for a year and twinges started to come back after like 3 (very short) runs...