2008 Primaries Thread 2: THE QUICKENING

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20 years and ranking member status on Senate Armed Services Committee isn't too shabby. There are people who have more foreign policy experience than he does, but he's got far more than Clinton or Obama.

I DIED, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 22:43 (eighteen years ago)

The central point of the McCain POW story isn't that he offered some heroic service to his country -- it's that he was willing to stay in a torturous situation based on abstract principles and codes that it would have been incredibly easy to rationalize his way out of holding to, something his supporters will tell you displays a very high level of integrity and dedication to ideals. Which is completely true, and nobody who hasn't stood around in a cage of mangled legs is going to have much rhetorical success trying to argue otherwise. A more important question, in terms of attacking the guy, is whether that same level of dedication to principle has been kept up throughout his time in government, especially in instances where the principle itself has been easier to fudge: pulling it off once does not mean pulling it off always.

nabisco, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 22:46 (eighteen years ago)

Hahaha pardon me that's "stood around in a cage ON mangled legs"

I have no evidence that the North Vietnamese ever constructed cages out of human body parts, and suspect that they would not have done so due to the high possibility of escape

nabisco, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 22:47 (eighteen years ago)

US magazine brings out the cuteness guns

http://www.usmagazine.com/Barack_Obama_hes_just_like_us_022708

gff, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 22:49 (eighteen years ago)

is that a muslim tricycle

deej, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 22:50 (eighteen years ago)

nice mini-turban

deej, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 22:52 (eighteen years ago)

red white and blue handlebar streamers = proof of patriotism from a young age

dmr, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 22:54 (eighteen years ago)

was that taken before or after he decided to become president

deej, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 22:57 (eighteen years ago)

Would losing the popular vote in Texas and Ohio but getting a delegate lead in Texas be the worst outcome for Obama next Tuesday? It would allow Clinton a big storyline in terms of the delegate counts not reflecting the will of the people and might generate some actual sympathy from dems still wincing over the 2000 national election.

I DIED, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 23:17 (eighteen years ago)

I think that's a stretch, but hey, I'm sure they'll try to spin it that way

dmr, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 23:20 (eighteen years ago)

Maybe ID, but I think -- and I hope -- it's an academic question.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 27 February 2008 23:20 (eighteen years ago)

http://i25.tinypic.com/25flvso.jpg

jhøshea, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 23:46 (eighteen years ago)

WHAT'S HE HIDING

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 23:47 (eighteen years ago)

So, boxers or briefs? Bill Clinton said he wore boxers in a 1992 interview with MTV.

I don't answer those humiliating questions. But whichever one it is, I look good in 'em!

http://www.usmagazine.com/barack_obama_refuses_to_answer_boxers_or_briefs_question

jhøshea, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 23:48 (eighteen years ago)

haha okay that is a funny answer

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 23:50 (eighteen years ago)

lol im the shit kiss my ass us magazine

jhøshea, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 23:51 (eighteen years ago)

Interesting article about Obama's 'Behavioral Economics' Philosophy, and how it can sheds light on the way he analyzes other issues, as well.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 27 February 2008 23:53 (eighteen years ago)

hi i linked to that way upthread

deej, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 23:55 (eighteen years ago)

2008 Primaries Thread 2: THE QUICKENING

deej, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 23:56 (eighteen years ago)

behavioral economics = a rogue economist discovers a bunch of shit that is common sense to non-economists

but that's another thread

Hurting 2, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 23:58 (eighteen years ago)

Clinton preferred briefs.

Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 28 February 2008 00:20 (eighteen years ago)

if Clinton had been honest he'd have answered "neither"

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 28 February 2008 00:21 (eighteen years ago)

That talk radio host that McCain apologized for was on NPR today - he basically said he was barely a McCain supporter to begin with and now no longer calls himself one.

Hurting 2, Thursday, 28 February 2008 00:41 (eighteen years ago)

A big hint from Gov. Bill Richardson, D-N.M., that he may get off the fence soon: "I don't think this race is over. But I may make a decision and do an endorsement," Richardson told CNN's Wolf Blitzer. He added that he doesn't feel bound to support Clinton just because New Mexico voted for her: "It was very close, Wolf, it was like half a percent. . . . So I think I have flexibility."

it was like half a percent! I could be veep for either one! no, srsly!

dmr, Thursday, 28 February 2008 00:49 (eighteen years ago)

xpost

Does Obama go 'commando'?

petey_carnum, Thursday, 28 February 2008 00:50 (eighteen years ago)

I haven't been forced to give this much thought to a politicians member since Lyndon Johnson.

Hurting 2, Thursday, 28 February 2008 00:54 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.usmagazine.com/images/slideshows/slide4-barry.jpg

ok i know this is fluff, but THE MAN KNOWS HIS HOT SAUCE. louisiana hot sauce 4evar

m bison, Thursday, 28 February 2008 01:45 (eighteen years ago)

that is an amazing tie to risk shaking hot sauce bottles around

deej, Thursday, 28 February 2008 02:37 (eighteen years ago)

louisiana 4 lyfe

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 28 February 2008 03:04 (eighteen years ago)

Clearly afraid to be photographed giving privileges to illegal Mexican hotsauce

Hurting 2, Thursday, 28 February 2008 03:11 (eighteen years ago)

Barack Obama has the JUDGEMENT to select the most high quality hot sauce on the market. He has the PATRIOTISM to ensure it's an American Brand, and he has the COURAGE to pour Louisiana Brand Hot Sauce near a white shirt and that effervescent tie that will clearly bring CHANGE to white house

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 28 February 2008 03:27 (eighteen years ago)

Frank's is better

remy bean, Thursday, 28 February 2008 03:30 (eighteen years ago)

that is an amazing tie to risk shaking hot sauce bottles around

-- deej, Thursday, 28 February 2008 02:37 (58 minutes ago) Link

You know these limousine liberals, he can always just buy another one

31g, Thursday, 28 February 2008 03:38 (eighteen years ago)

Frank's is made in New Jersey.

Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 28 February 2008 03:48 (eighteen years ago)

Louisiana Hot Sauce is the ONLY hot sauce for soul food/Southern cooking/cajun/creole.

I'm willing to allow other hot sauces for Mexican food or other cuisines.

Hubie Brown, Thursday, 28 February 2008 05:11 (eighteen years ago)

no sriracha no credibility

roxymuzak, Thursday, 28 February 2008 05:15 (eighteen years ago)

I hear McCain likes some picante sauce that's made in New York City

Hurting 2, Thursday, 28 February 2008 05:21 (eighteen years ago)

get a rope

roxymuzak, Thursday, 28 February 2008 05:24 (eighteen years ago)

Louisiana is way overrated. Tabasco and sriracha are all a hothead needs really.

Rock Hardy, Thursday, 28 February 2008 05:27 (eighteen years ago)

I like Cholula

Hurting 2, Thursday, 28 February 2008 05:28 (eighteen years ago)

sriracha for asian food, obv

Hurting 2, Thursday, 28 February 2008 05:28 (eighteen years ago)

Sriracha + cider vinegar = perfect pepper sauce for peas or greens. No need for making any more of that stuff ever.

Rock Hardy, Thursday, 28 February 2008 05:29 (eighteen years ago)

damnit it's midnight and you're making me want some greens

Hurting 2, Thursday, 28 February 2008 05:30 (eighteen years ago)

Try the sriracha + vinegar, I'm more OTM than nabisco, srsly.

Rock Hardy, Thursday, 28 February 2008 05:32 (eighteen years ago)

Middle Tennessee State poll: McCain beats Obama in TN, but leads Clinton under 50%

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2008/02/27/mtsu_poll_clinton_stronger_than_obama_in_tennessee.html

gabbneb, Thursday, 28 February 2008 05:53 (eighteen years ago)

Dang, this McCain bio they're running on MSNBC right now is pretty harrowing...especially the French documentary footage inside the Hanoi Hilton.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 28 February 2008 06:41 (eighteen years ago)

z-post

As a former Tennessee resident, I can tell you that outside of Nashville and Memphis, the state is about as red as states can get.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 28 February 2008 06:42 (eighteen years ago)

btw dudes obama rally tonight was awesome

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 28 February 2008 07:28 (eighteen years ago)

Can I ask another stupid European question? What is the point of these rallies? Only people who are already going to vote for the candidate in question are there, right?

StanM, Thursday, 28 February 2008 07:39 (eighteen years ago)

(apologies to other Europeans who aren't stupid)

StanM, Thursday, 28 February 2008 07:40 (eighteen years ago)


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