i dont think its that lolworthy to write about any of these places tbh
a person can read a thousand guides and books about westminster, they're not going to just read this one piece - and if they base a trip around one short piece well thats their problem not the articles. a person is surely capably of assimilating multiple sources and then deciding what works for them
― coal, Saturday, 28 April 2012 09:49 (fourteen years ago)
the fact that that deptford article was originally published three years ago as well, it was probably even more barren then
to go so far as to mention the bunker, honestly words fail
― r|t|c, Saturday, 28 April 2012 09:50 (fourteen years ago)
people get too caught up in seeing things as "100 places you must see before you die" instead of "here is a place, you might like it, you might not, take it or leave it"
they already have their copy of lonely planet anyhow
― coal, Saturday, 28 April 2012 09:50 (fourteen years ago)
also people are kinda assuming some 'default reader' when there are multiple types of reader - what about someone who has been to london 7-8 times already? are they supposed to read about Regents Park again?
― coal, Saturday, 28 April 2012 09:58 (fourteen years ago)
Also Slocki are you coming to Todd Terje tonight? In London's brutalist Elephant & Castle you will find an edge that many believe has disappeared from much of New York altogether.
― Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Saturday, April 28, 2012 5:11 AM (45 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I wish, I couldn't get tix :(
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Saturday, 28 April 2012 09:59 (fourteen years ago)
you'll be fine to get in on the door if you don't go too late.
― Upt0eleven, Saturday, 28 April 2012 10:08 (fourteen years ago)
xxp, yep - London doesn't really have a default off-track destination for people wanting interesting bars and galleries like a lot of other cities have (the Navigli in Milan, etc) and Dalston / Shoreditch are as valid a choice as any. If it can draw people away from the horrors of Camden, which seems to be the place most go for this sort of stuff, that's definitely a good thing.
You could probably learn a lot as a visitor by walking from somewhere like Stamford Hill, through Stoke Newington and Dalston, to the City.
― Just like you, except hot (ShariVari), Saturday, 28 April 2012 10:09 (fourteen years ago)
I barely even think of Clerkenwell as East London at all, although I suppose it is technically
Clerkenwell is in no sense East London - it's west of the City!
― Tim, Saturday, 28 April 2012 10:13 (fourteen years ago)
... but east of Charing X, London's technical centre
― hugo_w, Saturday, 28 April 2012 10:17 (fourteen years ago)
i realised the other day that i have come to think of holborn as "south london" and indeed "west london"
― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Saturday, 28 April 2012 10:18 (fourteen years ago)
Holborn & Bloomsbury now "Midtown"
― mmmm, Saturday, 28 April 2012 10:20 (fourteen years ago)
The property industry has been trying to make "Midtown" happen for years, it isn't working.
― Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Saturday, 28 April 2012 10:21 (fourteen years ago)
Just like they did with "Noho", right?
― Upt0eleven, Saturday, 28 April 2012 10:23 (fourteen years ago)
It's not even the recommendations so much as the gormlessness of the writing itself, so one pub "has been salvaged from the remains of one of the area’s most notorious dives, and now hosts indie types lounging on studded leather sofas on a stripped pine floor, sampling Belgian Trappist beers (£3.60) and baked breaded Camembert with cranberry sauce (£6.95)". But there's generally more dreadful travel writing out there than there is great stuff.
― Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Saturday, 28 April 2012 10:26 (fourteen years ago)
would read an all-ilx 48 hours in london guide
― J0rdan, Diddy (tpp), Saturday, 28 April 2012 10:50 (fourteen years ago)
Tuesday4am
ETHNIC BREAKFAST
In a railway arch in Canning Town, where Blade Runner meets My Beautiful Launderette, sample the local speciality of 'pickles and yams', a common early-morning call from this district's earthily honest street vendors. In this vibrant multicultural district of narrow cobbled streets and gaslit privet-hedged parks, the yammering of Senegalese garment workers and Ruthenian wholesale grocers mingle amid the Muezzins and the dawn chorus of jackdaws and civet cats.
― The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 28 April 2012 13:20 (fourteen years ago)
So guess what?
http://travel.nytimes.com/
"London: A Special Issue"
Thrill! Maybe some of it is even correct.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 28 April 2012 13:27 (fourteen years ago)
If there's anyone you want doing a guide to London it's A.A Gill...
― Just like you, except hot (ShariVari), Saturday, 28 April 2012 13:30 (fourteen years ago)
journalists from new york and london should be forbidden from writing about each others' cities
i remember one particularly awful pre-lehmann circle jerk in 'new york magazine' wherein the relatives merits of both where tediously elaborated
― The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 28 April 2012 13:34 (fourteen years ago)
where
― The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 28 April 2012 13:37 (fourteen years ago)
Just visited Broadway Market for a banh mi lunch, then strolled along the canal and visited the Geffrye Museum. Excellent afternoon outing, top job NYT.
― Touché Gödel (ledge), Saturday, 28 April 2012 14:35 (fourteen years ago)
I just went to Broadway too haha
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Saturday, 28 April 2012 15:47 (fourteen years ago)
~I'm everywhere~
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Saturday, 28 April 2012 15:48 (fourteen years ago)
Really like the Geffrye museum fwiw.
― Upt0eleven, Saturday, 28 April 2012 17:58 (fourteen years ago)
― J0rdan, Diddy (tpp), Saturday, April 28, 2012 5:50 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― catbus otm (gbx), Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:57 (fourteen years ago)
the shard!!!
https://p.twimg.com/AuIEKRqCAAAlMnv.jpg
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 09:23 (fourteen years ago)
Really want to see that effect irl. Love the shard, it's so futuristic.
― the fey monster (ledge), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 09:27 (fourteen years ago)
love the shard as well, people who whinge about how out-of-place or capitalist it is can do one
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 09:38 (fourteen years ago)
i find usually it looks better at night, though the above is an exception.
― ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 09:46 (fourteen years ago)
was surprised on staurday that you can see the shard (and the post office tower) from wormwood scrubs (8 miles away)
― koogs, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 09:46 (fourteen years ago)
gotta ask, what were you doing at wormwood scrubs
― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 09:48 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah the Shard looks a bit disappointing in grey weather (contrast to the Gherkin which looks good all the time) but those photos in bright sunlight make you realise what the architects were getting at. Looking forward to seeing it properly illuminated at night.
― Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 09:54 (fourteen years ago)
I don't think I like this building very much. Maybe I'll get used to its presence eventually.
― salsa shark, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 10:12 (fourteen years ago)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Wormwood_Scrubs.JPG
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 10:14 (fourteen years ago)
was walking around the common land that HMP Wormwood Scrubs is named after. didn't really go anywhere near the prison (having missed the turn and there being only so many places you can get across the central line, the next one was too far west for the prison)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wormwood_Scrubs
(Trellick Tower's in that picture, which is looking north east ish, shard is behind the trees on the right)
― koogs, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 10:16 (fourteen years ago)
I can't wait until christmas, surely they'll light it up like a huge tree.
― mmmm, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 10:16 (fourteen years ago)
xp
large part of the park is designated a model aircraft flying zone (someone was flying noisy jet there on saturday) and also labelled as MOD land on the maps.
― koogs, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 10:18 (fourteen years ago)
i was surprised to learn that the shard is gonna be the tallest building in europe.
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 13:19 (fourteen years ago)
Nah, come on, it's a filthy spindle - razor ad city boy filth.
― Fizzles, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 20:20 (fourteen years ago)
the glass is cheap or sthing which is why it looks kind of dull when it doesn't happen to precisely reflect the sun
― too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 20:22 (fourteen years ago)
its really REALLY out of place - at least it doesn't make sense when looking at it from shabby London Bridge station.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 20:26 (fourteen years ago)
i don't think it's too bad but it is to renzo piano what say neu! 2 is to klaus dinger
― too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 20:30 (fourteen years ago)
the thrustingness that is nauseating makes me feel unwell. I'm fairly free about things generally but I wd like a nasty vicious cock in my horizontal vision?
― Fizzles, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 20:35 (fourteen years ago)
the apogee is the worst part, there are a few canted plasticky triangular bits that are supposed to signify/homage the sails of london's mercantile history
― too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 20:47 (fourteen years ago)
kinda like the new Utd kit
― Number None, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 20:48 (fourteen years ago)
yes!
― too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 20:49 (fourteen years ago)
what 21st century forms and commodities will be given tribute in the showpiece architecture of the 23rd century
― too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 21:00 (fourteen years ago)
twitter
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 21:11 (fourteen years ago)
the glass is cheap or sthing
why oh why didn't they fit the best - everest.
― the fey monster (ledge), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 22:26 (fourteen years ago)
i actually love the way it's out of the way of the usual city cluster of high rises. it makes it seem less obtrusive, like it's not disrupting an already familiar skyline; but at the same time it can suddenly appear from the most unexpected locations.
― the fey monster (ledge), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 22:30 (fourteen years ago)