Mad Men on AMC • Fifth Season Thread

see also: "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield", numerous references to 20th century racism (Nazi planet, "Space Seed", etc.)

This idealized version of Mad Men that you are all describing sounds absolutely terrible.

I was agreeing with contenderizer's statement that "the problem is that the show doesn't devote much time to the day-to-day advertising work that sustains the company".

contenderizer only meant this was a problem in the context of evaluating how well Peggy (and others) actually are at their jobs, not that it was a problem in terms of the show itself. which I thought he made clear.

er well = good

I'm curious as to what the "idealized version" of Mad Men anyone is describing is.

Peggy is black and owns and insurance company that solves advertising-related crimes every week

roger sterling plays the janitor, who barfs at inappropriate moments

carries a bucket of sawdust.

well, i assume an idealized version involves the show taking on issues of race and people of colour in a more head-on manner as well as dealing with a more successful female copywriter character to better reflect a specific part of reality. nothing wrong with wanting that, mind. though i'd imagine you'd hope they did it in a more entertaining fashion that weiner and his writing staff.

To me 'idealized' as a pejorative though implies that I want the show to be American Dreams or something that is generally softer and kinder to the time period. Which couldn't be further from what I want.

my impressions is we were discussing "idealized" in the sense of what version of the show would most satisfy you.

I guess I'd like to know why that "sounds terrible" then.

I'd keep Roger barfing if it helps.

I don't think it sounds terrible, though it would most definitely be a minefield that could get very terrible, very quickly.

It's not this show, though.

can't believe nobody's pulled up that roger barfing gif yet btw.

is there anything on this show that ISN'T an anigif

yeah but barfing was og iirc

with the weird dance everyone was was doing in the background

what interests me is seeing the characters talk through ad campaigns, have a moment of inspiration, pitch the campaign, run the campaign.

while this is fine - most campaigns don't go this smoothly. insert after "pitch the campaign", "get shot down by client, come up with even more inspired concept, get shot down, present a safe, uninspired pile, run campaign."

which is more similar to what we were seeing with those fucking beans!

it seems the AMC series "The Pitch" is gonna scratch that itch

well, i live that, so... :S

not heard of the Pitch tho, will check 'er out.

It's not started yet. They just had a preview episode on a few weeks back. Reality series about ad agencies (or teams of ad men or whatever) pitching.

it's no fun if it's real
i want good scripting

"the two of us in the same room, looking at each other every once in a while"

would hang out with sally draper and roger sterling

lmao at homegirl pretending to like fish rite there

this ep owns

Hope all these Twin Peaks homages (at least in terms of casting) lead to something...

loljewham

smh @ roger

who all was on twin peaks?

lol'd p hard @ 'interesting bowls' in the heinz pitch

Ken's dad & the girl Don strangled a few eps back

I was happy to see creepy Glen! Telling her to check out the Loving Spoonful! Answering the phone naked, with his winter coat on!

I love creepy Glen!

"How's the city?"
"Dirty."

oh that's the weird kid from the suburbs? i didn't realize that. hahaha

what was megan's original ambition? to act?

never really been revealed

yes "acting" but that's probably a metaphor or some shit

pls let it be "lead québécois uprising"

goddamn autocorrect actually helping me look fancy

She moved to ny to act.

Great episode. Tableau at the end of the awards dinner was awesome.

Just realized that was Julia Ormond.

!!!

when megan first explains her idea for the heinz thing she really acts like peggy (in season 1)

I couldn't get a read on how Megan felt during Peggy's congratulations. It sort of felt like "uh, thanks."

I figured it was her feeling a little unsure how to take it, as though maybe she felt semi-guilty for accomplishing something via Don even if it really was all her. Maybe I'm just reading into her dad's speech though.

peggy: "this is as good as this job gets!"

could be that megan is thinking, really? this is as good as it gets? get me the hell out of here!

i mean, maybe she doesn't actually want to work in advertising

Yeah, that's what I got out of it. "ok, we landed a pitch for beans. great. why does everybody even care."