Kenny Dalglish Won't Be Delivering the Module: English Premiership 2011-12

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no other high level manager talks like this

Hodgson. You're after high level though aren't you.

Chris, Monday, 23 April 2012 23:00 (twelve years ago) link

saying jelavic is a bargain and spurs should have signed him is kinda 20/20 hindsight btw - loads of clubs looked at him and were unconvinced, little knowing that it was all part of a deceptively casual berbzishness

I'm not claiming Pinefoxian foresight here but I said when Everton signed him he'd do well and I was glad to see him leave Rangers. I even sort-of compared him to Berbz.

I think he's of Premier League standard. Good with back to goal, runs the channels, strong, shoots on sight, good goals record, doesn't look overly arsed about anything ever. I'm delighted he's leaving Rangers.

we are not bemused (onimo), Monday, 23 April 2012 23:15 (twelve years ago) link

Hodgson. You're after high level though aren't you.

― Chris, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 00:00 (25 minutes ago) Bookmark

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Number None, Monday, 23 April 2012 23:27 (twelve years ago) link

hodgson seems like actually a nice person, there wasn't a hint of rancour in the duration of his bbc interview on sunday

i doubt hes ever thrown a player to the wolves to deflect attention from general failings as redknapp likes to do

that wasnt supposed to be a bassong reference

na, he just hangs the kids out to dry to deflect attention from his shite tactics against the "formidable" northampton town

Chris, Monday, 23 April 2012 23:45 (twelve years ago) link

dalglish would never do that, even if he lost 3-1 to relegation candidates

not got a problem with giving senior players a kick up the arse, but labelling reserves and youths as the B team and giving the impression he views them as separate from the rest of the club, and refusing to give a bit of praise to shelvey when asked about his performance wasn't a great move.

Chris, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 00:02 (twelve years ago) link

i defer to your superior knowledge of liverpool but i don't think blaming a whole team, even if they're largely kids, is as poor form as isolating a single player
for public criticism

ferguson is great at this, he gently upbraided ashley young but made it clear his actual failing was in allowing himself to become the subject of a media witchhunt

yeah seems obvious the word he had with him was "the bastards are all out to get us, lay low for a couple of weeks"

r|t|c, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 00:32 (twelve years ago) link

i defer to your superior knowledge of liverpool but i don't think blaming a whole team, even if they're largely kids, is as poor form as isolating a single player for public criticism

a single player who hasn't even played for them, at that. now he'll definitely be in the right frame of mind to step up to the task if called upon.

michael nyman cat (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 00:40 (twelve years ago) link

redknapp used to complain about pavlyuchenko all the time too, didn't he? then he sold him, and somehow he's ended up with only one striker.

michael nyman cat (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 00:41 (twelve years ago) link

just one striker who refuses to play, and jermaine defoe

harry on ade:

"He has done well for us. He has worked hard but he is on amazing money. The other week, one of the lads told him that he had not paid his £50 fine for being the worst player in training on a Friday morning. One of the lads said to him: 'Bloody hell, Ade, you are on 200 grand a week and you can't afford to pay a £50 fine!' He replied: 'Don't insult me, it's 225!'"

The laughter that followed the anecdote was followed up by a serious message from Redknapp, who admitted: "He certainly isn't getting that here."

boxall, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 00:44 (twelve years ago) link

he has a strange approach to motivation

boxall, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 00:45 (twelve years ago) link

i defer to your superior knowledge of liverpool but i don't think blaming a whole team, even if they're largely kids, is as poor form as isolating a single player for public criticism

aye that is poor form. hodgey was partial to blaming individuals mind. glen johnson got it in the neck, and he made sure we all knew he had nothing to do with joe cole's arrival.

anyway, redknapp. didn't bent ask for a transfer cos of something he said to him?

Chris, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 02:46 (twelve years ago) link

'You've got to be careful. I once said, "My old woman could have scored that", about a goal Darren Bent missed.'

'Bent then sulked, rang his agent, his agent rings the chairman and says he ain't happy and wants to leave. It was only the truth, wasn't it?'

Chris, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 02:48 (twelve years ago) link

lol i like how his wife has turned into 'old woman' in the retelling

You wonder what he might have said to his only striker after docking him £50 for poor training on a Friday, presumably before a weekend match.

boxall, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 02:55 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/wolverhampton-wanderers-fc/2012/04/23/how-wolves-can-come-back-stronger/

The Express and Star is home to some of the worst journalistic suck-ups i've ever read, guys who were swearing McCarthy was the greatest manager of our era even as we sank deeper into the mire. It's really heartening to read somebody who gets it. Praying the Board has a long read of this.


But I am afraid for all the mighty progress the former manager brought, he ultimately added to the view that he is a major player for the second tier but a man who struggles in the first.

In choosing their man to take the club forward, Wolves need to embrace a radical change of style. One that still brings successful football but football more pleasing on the eye, more threatening to the opposition and executed by more technically-focused players. Football that can go back into the Premier League with more to offer than parking the team bus across the penalty area.

aboulia banks (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 08:52 (twelve years ago) link

Mick coming back seems so inevitable from here, but you'll be pleased to know I'm entirely uninformed.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 09:21 (twelve years ago) link

if we're gonna talk managers who hung players to cover his own failings, the first i think of isn't roy hodgson.

arry's motivational chops are of the loveable drill sergeant type, jokey but the boss. Trouble with that is when things get tough the jokes ring hollow and the edge seems too sharp.

His preference for isolation and mockery of very good players that he's (wrongly, usually) not finding minutes on the pitch for has always been a problem.

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 09:22 (twelve years ago) link

Olympics draw is this morning. Is this tourney worth its own thread? Cos we'd need a title. I'm inclined to say no personally, but there is potential humour a-plenty from Team GB.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 09:39 (twelve years ago) link

D-Mac right on every count.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 09:41 (twelve years ago) link

not even planning on noticing it tbh

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 09:42 (twelve years ago) link

sean o'driscoll out as far as 66-1 for the wolves job, same as rafa and peter reid

r|t|c, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 10:29 (twelve years ago) link

O'Driscoll is 54 which may count against him, and his management record looks slight - Bournemouth and Donny. I think he did solid work at both, and Doncaster were a delight to watch at times. I don't think he's "achieved" enough to get a serious look-in, and I don't think fans are patient enough to get behind his brand of possession football. He has got experience of getting a lot from a small budget but it won't be enough. The fact that he is a Wolverhampton lad will count for nothing.

very few fans are gonna be in the mood for taking a chance or patient experimentation, they're already talking about keeping the squad together and bouncing back. a tiny bit worried about the idea that most of our guys are worth holding onto, tho i'm hopeful there's a core of talent there somewhere.

aboulia banks (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 10:37 (twelve years ago) link

like i wd argue that Doyle, Fletcher, O'Hara, perhaps Kights, perhaps the new boy Davis, are worth sticking with. I like Stearman but I'm not sure, likewise Zube. As for the rest, I don't see much prospect of them being good Prem players, tho some might make effective squad members.

Jarvis is absolutely gash and we shd snatch the first bid we receive, if any.

aboulia banks (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 10:39 (twelve years ago) link

forgot Hennessey but he's out for months anyway.

Edwards, Ward, Foley, Berra, Johnson, HENRY - useless, get rid

aboulia banks (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 10:41 (twelve years ago) link

SkyBet are running a Daniel Agger book, 6/4 to join Barcelona in the summer. Where has this come from?! Of all their transfer specials, only Van Persie to City and Cavani to Juve are shorter odds.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 10:41 (twelve years ago) link

yeah i think you're right re o'driscoll. didnt expect him to accept no.2 roles so soon either, but i did forget he was that old as well tbh. having him on a par with rafa and peter reid though, have some respect!

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/wolves-specials/next-permanent-manager

bleh look at this torrent of shite. billy or karl robinson or death imo. or lee clark maybe.

r|t|c, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 10:46 (twelve years ago) link

agree those three look like the few realistic and entertaining candidates.

i find it very hard to believe they'll appoint any of the cabbages they couldn't get in March but god knows, maybe Morgan knows nothing about football.

aboulia banks (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 10:50 (twelve years ago) link

Roberto Di Matteo at 40/1

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 10:50 (twelve years ago) link

i love how there's about 10 clubs spanning the top two divisions hoping west ham get promotion as they're the only club around stupid enough to pick up loads of "proven premiership" dross

r|t|c, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 10:51 (twelve years ago) link

all the betting sites are blocked at work :(

what price Bruce or Curbishley? god knows why we have a section who still want Curbs, he's a cock imo

aboulia banks (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 10:52 (twelve years ago) link

Spurs to "launch internal enquiry into their disastrous January transfer business". lol

Number None, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 10:55 (twelve years ago) link

stearman is dreadful

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 10:56 (twelve years ago) link

i said i kinda like him, i didn't say he was good enough. think he's never found his best position and it's not like he'll have had any technical coaching since he's been at Molineux

aboulia banks (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 10:57 (twelve years ago) link

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/51/Richard_Stearman.jpg/100px-Richard_Stearman.jpg

He barely appears to be there in his wiki photo

Number None, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 10:58 (twelve years ago) link

it's ok, but he is dreadful

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 11:01 (twelve years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/gv8Ix.jpg

here noodles, quicker this way than reformatting

r|t|c, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 11:02 (twelve years ago) link

ooh sky's are a bit different

Sam Allardyce5/2
Dougie Freedman7/2
Lee Clark4/1
Steve Bruce6/1
Ian Holloway6/1
Gary Megson6/1
Gordon Strachan8/1
Paul Ince9/1
Alan Curbishley10/1
Gus Poyet10/1
Terry Connor12/1
Darren Ferguson16/1
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer16/1
Roy Keane20/1
Walter Smith25/1
Dave Jones25/1
Roberto Di Matteo25/1
Ray Wilkins25/1
Alan Shearer25/1
Phil Brown25/1
Glen Roeder33/1
Peter Taylor33/1
Graeme Souness33/1
Chris Hughton33/1
Nigel Adkins33/1

r|t|c, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 11:04 (twelve years ago) link

and by different i mean 'prep the noose'

r|t|c, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 11:05 (twelve years ago) link

already googling how to tie a slip knot

aboulia banks (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 12:12 (twelve years ago) link

Neymar da Silva Santos Júnior has a silly haircut and also he is better than you: The Olympic Games 2012

'Arry's future squad of players to be kinda racist about: The Olympic Games Football 2012

Ganso? Yes, indeed: The Olympic Games (Football) 2012

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 13:30 (twelve years ago) link

Gaitán but right back isn't up for a party: The Olympic Games (Football) 2012

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 13:34 (twelve years ago) link

A packed-out Hampden welcomes Belarus v Egypt, 2:30pm Wednesday 1 August 2012: Olympic Games Football

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 13:37 (twelve years ago) link

£40 for tickets for that match, down to £20 for the cheap seats, and unlike the earlier games it's not a double-header. I wonder just how low the attendance can go?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 13:48 (twelve years ago) link

john terry is a cunt: 2012 olympic footie thread.

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 13:50 (twelve years ago) link


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