"Aliens" : Some nice effects, but actually kind've a crap film.

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They need to make another Alien movie directed by Jodorowsky.

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Sunday, 12 September 2004 21:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Man, I still can't see why everyone else can't see that A:R is by far the best one. IT'S SO OBVIOUS

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Sunday, 12 September 2004 21:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd like to revise my judgement from 'good' to 'ok'.

― cºzen (Cozen), Sunday, 12 September 2004 21:19 (twenty-one years ago)

when antonioni is cloned he shd make a silent aliens movie.

― cºzen (Cozen), Sunday, 12 September 2004 21:20 (twenty-one years ago)

With the old on-screen cue cards for dramatic moments:

"Oh no! Slimy slobbery alien!"

"He's fucked!"

"We now pause from the action to enjoy a moment of relationship subtext!"

"More subtext"

"Hooray for guns!"

"Welcome to Ripley, bitch!"

"The end (now with added subtext)."

"Credits: Predator ship designed by..."

― B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Sunday, 12 September 2004 21:29 (twenty-one years ago)

haha ripley to winona: "they programmed you to be an asshole?"

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Sunday, 12 September 2004 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)

"you're the new asshole model?"

"I'm finding a lot of things funny nowadays. I don't think they are."

― cºzen (Cozen), Sunday, 12 September 2004 21:48 (twenty-one years ago)

the end of this movie is kinda fucked up.

― cºzen (Cozen), Sunday, 12 September 2004 21:49 (twenty-one years ago)

"Millions died, Earth saved, wanna go out to a lesbian bar and get baked on hash brownies later?"

― B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Sunday, 12 September 2004 21:55 (twenty-one years ago)

i liked resurrection a lot when it came out.

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 12 September 2004 22:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Alien Resurrection - it doesn't really work for me. I like the psycho-sexual undertones (i would kill to see Cronenberg do an Alien movie) and the is she on our side or not? thing going with Ripley.

The design/creatures/effects are pretty good for the most paart, though the spaceship shots are a bit perfunctory and bland.

But overall the film was just too cartonish for me.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 13 September 2004 09:37 (twenty-one years ago)

i did read the screenplay before it came out though (it was a lot better), so that might have affected my perception of the movie.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 13 September 2004 09:38 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm only half way through last night's resurrection but the one thing that jumped out at me was why they put aliens in cages that their blood could eat through. like duh!

― koogs (koogs), Monday, 13 September 2004 09:50 (twenty-one years ago)

the end of this movie is kinda fucked up.
-- cºzen (skiplevel...), September 12th, 2004.

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"Millions died, Earth saved, wanna go out to a lesbian bar and get baked on hash brownies later?"
-- B.A.R.M.S. (b4rim4_...), September 12th, 2004.

OTM.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 13 September 2004 09:54 (twenty-one years ago)

fuck, it was way more gory than the other 3 was it not? or have i got squeamisher?

― Dead Man, Monday, 13 September 2004 10:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I want a new Alien move to be made on the same principle that 'Return of the Living Dead' used, ie "Hey remember that film 'Alien'? Well it was based on a true story, no shit, we still got a frozen egg down in the basement"

xpost - gory a good film does not make.

― Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 13 September 2004 10:04 (twenty-one years ago)

(unless that's what you like I spose)

― Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 13 September 2004 10:07 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...

I don't know if this has been said enough on this thread but sigourney weaver is awesome in this film with her almost asymptotal acting - always to the edge of things ('out of breath, unmade up &c.') - earning the film its dramatic danger. thomson says she is 'lofty, droll, ready for surprise, smart, attractive, and plainly desperate comedy, sigourney weaver has a robust reasonableness worth bearing in mind when other actresses kill themselves, ascend the olympus of vanity, or disgrace the human race' (haha woah tiger!). this film ws always weaver vs. 'the bitch' and never about the marines anyway. she's an underrated actress with a careful (?), short filmography full of understated (trans: aggresively reasonable) but liminally dangerous ('like something underwater turning ten fathoms deep, and swimming after you and me...') performances.

Sigourney Weaver is marvelous. I'm still amazed that the Academy, with its distate for genre pictures, managed to nominate her for Best Actress. It's her best movie.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 17 March 2006 02:44 (twenty years ago)

A fine revive. Good thread, actually, though Alex in NYC is still nuts on the core point. (That said, Elvis T.'s takes I've since taken on board slightly but not fully.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 17 March 2006 02:56 (twenty years ago)

Alex is nuts, but as usual, his grouchiness is charming and has a modicum of truth.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 17 March 2006 03:15 (twenty years ago)

god this movie rules so hard. still cameron's finest hour.

― latebloomer aka rembrandt, the fifth ninja turtle (latebloomer), Friday, 17 March 2006 09:07 (twenty years ago)

Alex is full of shit tbh.

― teh_kit! (g-kit), Friday, 17 March 2006 10:44 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...

latebloomer otm

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 12 April 2007 23:55 (nineteen years ago)

harry dean stanton and yaphet kotto will always beat anything ever, especially if the anything includes a freakin annoying child actress

― Tracer Hand, Friday, 13 April 2007 00:25 (nineteen years ago)

and the effects in the original alien are breathtaking, and all of them recycled for part deux - the shaky heads-up display action, especially. approaching and entering the alien ship in the first one makes the skin on the back of my head tighten up just thinking about it. it is truly insane that it was made in 1979 and looked that good.

― Tracer Hand, Friday, 13 April 2007 00:27 (nineteen years ago)

harry dean stanton and yaphet kotto will always beat anything ever, especially if the anything includes a freakin annoying child actress

Don't forget Ian Holm.

However: "GAME OVER MAN!"

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 13 April 2007 00:39 (nineteen years ago)

i love this movie so much!!

― rrrobyn, Friday, 13 April 2007 01:04 (nineteen years ago)

so awesome. so is alien 1 of course. i don't like to compare them because they are both BALLS OUT WICKEDNESS OF ALL RADNESS in their own unique ways.

― s1ocki, Friday, 13 April 2007 01:24 (nineteen years ago)

Tracer OTM

― milo z, Friday, 13 April 2007 01:27 (nineteen years ago)

I don't get the complaints that Newt is a fiendish moppet who deserves a pulse gun shot up her rear. I'm usually suspicious of child actors, but this one doesn't have very many lines, and she does numbed horror very well.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 13 April 2007 01:43 (nineteen years ago)

I stand by my comments above, unsurprisingly. It's been years since I've seen Alien and Aliens, though -- I should rectify that. But I'm in no rush, absence makes the heart grow fonder, etc.

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 13 April 2007 01:47 (nineteen years ago)

And of course I had to think of this film because of Grindhouse. I will always remember Biehn for this more than for The Terminator, actually.

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 13 April 2007 01:48 (nineteen years ago)

I'll even take Resurrection over Aliens.

― milo z, Friday, 13 April 2007 01:56 (nineteen years ago)

I will always remember Biehn for this more than for The Terminator, actually.

He's actually kind of hot.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 13 April 2007 01:58 (nineteen years ago)

I'll even take Resurrection over Aliens.

Freak.

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 13 April 2007 02:18 (nineteen years ago)

yeah milo you're insane.

i like biehn better in this too!!

― s1ocki, Friday, 13 April 2007 02:39 (nineteen years ago)

The best part about Aliens is that the bad guys are the military subcontractors, and the good guys are the marine's weapons. Gosh, wonder who manufactured those?

― shieldforyoureyes, Friday, 13 April 2007 04:12 (nineteen years ago)

the best part about Aliens is the aliens and fighting and the yelling and suspense and terror and vastness of the universe

― rrrobyn, Friday, 13 April 2007 04:17 (nineteen years ago)

Seriously, it's the silence of the base when the Marines first land. Just chilling.

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 13 April 2007 04:18 (nineteen years ago)

i really like how this film actually takes its time building up before all the main action starts. it's genuinely like a roller coaster in that respect: there's a long, tense wind-up, followed by an insane rush of energy followed by some false stops and starts before revving up once again for one last go....and then it's over...but omg it's not!...and then it's finally actually over.

― latebloomer, Friday, 13 April 2007 05:03 (nineteen years ago)

Alien 3 i sthe best film Fincher will ever direct and I suspect, if ever we see the 40 or so minutes cut, the best of the lot.

― i, grey, Friday, 13 April 2007 06:31 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah this film blows goats.

― the next grozart, Friday, 13 April 2007 09:24 (nineteen years ago)

What the fuck's wrong with these people who don't like Aliens?

('Alien 3 is actually pretty good' sentiment seconded)

― chap, Friday, 13 April 2007 14:00 (nineteen years ago)

Alien 1 had an awesome set design, I love Ridley Scotts random realistic junkness in his scenes. It's like these places really exist, and all the stuff you see has a history behind it. Not just plastic coverings built in a props factory.

― Ste, Friday, 13 April 2007 14:05 (nineteen years ago)

okay, so way upthread, in the past, slocki asked what kind of action movies alex-in-nyc did like then if he didn't like this one, but there was no answer.

do those who don't like Aliens not like action movies, or what kind of action movies do you like? or, maybe what i'm really wondering, so i can understand this better, is what's an AWESOME MOVIE to you? or would you never use the phrase AWESOME MOVIE in the first place and stick with something like "excellent film"?

― rrrobyn, Friday, 13 April 2007 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

(i have said both of these things re: films i like - i don't mean it as a judgment thing)

― rrrobyn, Friday, 13 April 2007 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

I don't understand people who did not love this movie. Unless you are an octogenarian who is uncomfortable with harsh language and sudden noises, I refuse to give haters any slack. It's one of the best action/thriller movies ever made.

― Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows, Friday, 13 April 2007 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

FB OTM

― g-kit, Friday, 13 April 2007 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

It's also better than a lot of other Vietnam movies.

― Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows, Friday, 13 April 2007 15:52 (nineteen years ago)

three months pass...

ALIENS RPG is coming! Done by Gearbox/Obsidian!

― kingfish, Monday, 16 July 2007 14:31 (eighteen years ago)

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