so the "taking Obama to the White House" article - aside from being racist, it's badly written. I do not grasp how sub-college paper columns get people gigs writing for major shows
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 19 April 2012 18:04 (twelve years ago) link
Not what you know but who you know, etc.
― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Thursday, 19 April 2012 18:11 (twelve years ago) link
NEPOTISM
― da croupier, Thursday, 19 April 2012 18:12 (twelve years ago) link
parents yelling kind of reminds me of the SNL sketch where Will Ferrell is trying to be a dignified businessman and family dude and he starts yelling "I DRIVE A DODGE STRATUS"
― mh, Thursday, 19 April 2012 18:22 (twelve years ago) link
haha i love that sketch
― lathe darkman (some dude), Thursday, 19 April 2012 18:27 (twelve years ago) link
i watched this the other day. i liked it enough to keep watching, which is not to say that i don't have some reservations. also, i found her hookup guy painful to watch, but i guess that was the point. but i thought she made their dynamic interesting enough. i loved the parents and how as soon as they said they were cutting her off, there was no grace period where she tried to pretend she would adjust maturely--she just launched into desperate persuasion.
― rayuela, Thursday, 19 April 2012 18:31 (twelve years ago) link
I know this was a first episode and they can't really expand on every character in the first half hour, but I really didn't care about most of these people and their boyfriends are insufferable
― mh, Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:19 (twelve years ago) link
^why it's not called "boyfriends"
― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:20 (twelve years ago) link
I guess they made them disposable but dude who slept over and "could move in" seems like he'll be a problem
― mh, Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:23 (twelve years ago) link
"I, uh, exploded a kiss on you"
run, lady! you're dating a michael cera character
― mh, Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:24 (twelve years ago) link
btw so hilarious + perfect that the closing credits song is by paul simon's son.
― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Thursday, 19 April 2012 21:58 (twelve years ago) link
srsly? haw
― lathe darkman (some dude), Friday, 20 April 2012 00:24 (twelve years ago) link
looking forward to seeing this when I catch up with last 10 days' tv. I been too busy workin
― Acute puppy syndrome (admrl), Friday, 20 April 2012 00:25 (twelve years ago) link
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omg!!! i kept waiting to feel like Girls's new york was paul simes's new york, like max said, and i didn't, until that song!!! omg!
― horseshoe, Friday, 20 April 2012 00:42 (twelve years ago) link
I don't know if this has been talked about incessantly already, but I feel like the main problem with this show is the title. If it had been called, like Tumblr Users or Awkward Dorks or Lena & Pals or whatever, I don't think people would be wrestling with whether or not this show is inclusive of a broad range of experience.― polyphonic, Thursday, April 19, 2012 1:29 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark
― polyphonic, Thursday, April 19, 2012 1:29 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark
diggin these titles
ew omg ally mcbeal― horseshoe, Thursday, April 19, 2012 2:02 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalinkis that "ironic" appreciation? i don't understand these young girls these days.― horseshoe, Thursday, April 19, 2012 2:03 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark
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is that "ironic" appreciation? i don't understand these young girls these days.
― horseshoe, Thursday, April 19, 2012 2:03 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark
yeah i had the same thought when dunham was expressing her deep appreciation for Friends. also its funny but when b_g was lamenting upthread that people might be watching Girls for the wrong reasons and how maybe the parade of female humiliation is harmful, i thought of Ally McBeal
― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Friday, 20 April 2012 01:43 (twelve years ago) link
Jesus was a beneficiary of nepotism too, ya know.
― I cannot host as my wife hates Walker (latebloomer), Friday, 20 April 2012 01:43 (twelve years ago) link
i feel so morbsy saying this but she was born in 1986, i'm sure she's not kidding about loving friends and ally mcbeal
― lathe darkman (some dude), Friday, 20 April 2012 01:53 (twelve years ago) link
'kidding' isnt the same as ironic appreciation, which is still a form of appreciation. i was born in 85, and the older i get the harder it is to ironically like shitty things. i think its more a mark of her age than her era is all
― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Friday, 20 April 2012 02:18 (twelve years ago) link
no, really, ally mcbeal has no redeeming qualities. i mean, it was offensive but it was also terrible.
― horseshoe, Friday, 20 April 2012 02:18 (twelve years ago) link
that was an xp
Yeah Ally McBeal was really just totally awful.
― wolf kabob (ENBB), Friday, 20 April 2012 02:32 (twelve years ago) link
i thought it reinforced positive body image in young females
― yologram (J0rdan S.), Friday, 20 April 2012 02:34 (twelve years ago) link
lol
― lathe darkman (some dude), Friday, 20 April 2012 02:36 (twelve years ago) link
guys, we watched golden girls and night court; everybody enjoys dumbfuck tv when they're kids
― boy, was that Dan Fielding hungry for some cake! (forksclovetofu), Friday, 20 April 2012 02:40 (twelve years ago) link
golden girls > most of what passes for sitcoms these days
― jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Friday, 20 April 2012 02:41 (twelve years ago) link
yer proving my point here strongo
― boy, was that Dan Fielding hungry for some cake! (forksclovetofu), Friday, 20 April 2012 02:41 (twelve years ago) link
night court owned too
― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Friday, 20 April 2012 02:42 (twelve years ago) link
give me bitchy old broads zinging each other with fake sets and a laugh track over self-conscious single cam ironic meta whatever
― jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Friday, 20 April 2012 02:42 (twelve years ago) link
― jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, April 19, 2012 10:42 PM (5 seconds ago) Bookmark
^^
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Friday, 20 April 2012 02:43 (twelve years ago) link
i guess this show should be called Non-Precious-Metal Girls
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Friday, 20 April 2012 02:44 (twelve years ago) link
Aluminum Girls
ok fuck it, i'm gonna guy buy some night court dvds, you guys bring the snacks and we'll have a marathon
― lathe darkman (some dude), Friday, 20 April 2012 02:47 (twelve years ago) link
I am watching this right now. It's OK so far, I guess. I really really dislike the girl in the pink juicy jumpsuit though. I realize she's supposed to be annoying but MY GOD.
― wolf kabob (ENBB), Friday, 20 April 2012 02:54 (twelve years ago) link
watch golden girls instead
― jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Friday, 20 April 2012 02:58 (twelve years ago) link
Pink jumpsuit girl felt like a stock Apatow character dropped into Dunham's world
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 20 April 2012 02:59 (twelve years ago) link
agreed but it was a bit of badly needed humor
― buzza, Friday, 20 April 2012 03:01 (twelve years ago) link
i loved mamet's scene. not bc she was anything more than a caricature but bc at least her awkward attempt to use mediocre pop culture as a prism to understand her life was recognizable + sympathetic to me. satc is such a terrible show but i have seen at least 70% of the episodes and i knew exactly what she meant when she said she tried to put her miranda hat on for work. i mean, totally asinine and ridiculous, but relatable.
― Mordy, Friday, 20 April 2012 03:08 (twelve years ago) link
satc is a pretty great show actually, or at least could be.
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Friday, 20 April 2012 03:11 (twelve years ago) link
I would be very surprised if GIRLS ever equalled it
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Friday, 20 April 2012 03:12 (twelve years ago) link
Many other industry voices say Dunham is under no obligation to incorporate different minority groups.“Most wealthy white girls in America are surrounded by other wealthy white girls, so that’s who they choose to be friends with. So what? Are we so immature that we need to throw in a token African-American or Asian to make us better about the fact that some white people have zero exposure to diversity? That doesn’t help bring races together or heal inequality,” pop culture writer Jenn Hoffman told FOX411’s Pop Tarts column. “That’s an idealistic liberal media driven band-aid at best or completely unrealistic PC garbage at worst.”Dan Gainor, Vice President of Business & Culture for the Media Research Center concurred that the racial condemnation was “over-hyped.”“Not every TV show needs to find its PC racial balance so lefties can celebrate and network execs can market to every single minority in America," he said. "That might surprise some, but there are groups of friends that might be racially homogenous. It’s not a crisis."
“Most wealthy white girls in America are surrounded by other wealthy white girls, so that’s who they choose to be friends with. So what? Are we so immature that we need to throw in a token African-American or Asian to make us better about the fact that some white people have zero exposure to diversity? That doesn’t help bring races together or heal inequality,” pop culture writer Jenn Hoffman told FOX411’s Pop Tarts column. “That’s an idealistic liberal media driven band-aid at best or completely unrealistic PC garbage at worst.”Dan Gainor, Vice President of Business & Culture for the Media Research Center concurred that the racial condemnation was “over-hyped.”
“Not every TV show needs to find its PC racial balance so lefties can celebrate and network execs can market to every single minority in America," he said. "That might surprise some, but there are groups of friends that might be racially homogenous. It’s not a crisis."
― Mordy, Friday, 20 April 2012 03:13 (twelve years ago) link
satc's first few seasons were pretty good with some sharp writing. it turned into a horrible cartoon after a while though
― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Friday, 20 April 2012 03:14 (twelve years ago) link
pop culture writer Jenn Hoffman told FOX411’s Pop Tarts column
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― yologram (J0rdan S.), Friday, 20 April 2012 03:15 (twelve years ago) link
SATC's first season was great. The was horrible. I've seen <10 eps after season 1, if that. x-posts
― wolf kabob (ENBB), Friday, 20 April 2012 03:15 (twelve years ago) link
err should have been the "rest" was horrible
― wolf kabob (ENBB), Friday, 20 April 2012 03:16 (twelve years ago) link
ex-The Apprentice contestant Jenn Hoffman told FOX411’s Pop Tarts column
― yologram (J0rdan S.), Friday, 20 April 2012 03:16 (twelve years ago) link
This was mostly boring for me. Dunham was the best part and I'm sure I'll watch it again but it wasn't fantastic or anything. Pretty excited to see Peter Scolari though.
― wolf kabob (ENBB), Friday, 20 April 2012 03:17 (twelve years ago) link
haha i wasnt going to but this:
i think some of the ways she's shot eating food (the spaghetti with her parents + the cupcake in the bathtub immediately come to mind) and the sex scene were particularly degrading
was a... strange reaction to have, i think. like 'degrading' is not how i read this at all, i identified w/her quite a bit here, thought it was really funny and true, helped me 'get' the character and sympathize with her.
― Masonic Butt (Lamp), Tuesday, April 17, 2012 11:16 AM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Lamp otm. I thought the sex scene was pretty great and maybe the one of the most realistic I've ever seen.
― wolf kabob (ENBB), Friday, 20 April 2012 03:22 (twelve years ago) link
I’ve found that men — just in the little bit of research I’ve done — find the sexual thing in the show more sobering than women do. And this is kind of a leap, but I think it’s because guys are like, “Have I ever made a girl feel that way? And is it rape?” Literally, I think that is what comes into their brains. I know that sounds like a dramatization, but don’t you kind of think guys think, “That’s not the sex I had, girls I had sex with were happy as fuck.” It was interesting reading about him sort of worrying that girls in general were allowing themselves to be taken advantage of. I will tell you, I’ve had loving sexual experiences, and anxiety-producing ones, probably slightly more anxiety-producing ones at this point. But none of them have ever made me feel like I was being forced into situations outside of my field of choice. If you notice my mincey language, it’s just that I’m still shedding the fact that I went to Oberlin College and if you slightly mangled your women’s/gender studies pronouns, you’d be sent to some Guantanamo for liberal arts students. So I still have this fear of my professor like jumping out of the walls and beating me with a giant Gayatri Chakravorty book or something.
from Salon interview
― Mordy, Friday, 20 April 2012 03:22 (twelve years ago) link