UK Watercooler 32: Fall Into The Meaning Gap

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Hello, all, busy morning. I am growing slightly disgruntled with the job here, it is feeling like the old place a couple of years ago. The software I have to support is a dog's breakfast with 4 main code trunks, a number of actual products and a layer of branding over the top with is, to say the least, confused.

Recruiter who got me this job called me this morning, I asked him to call back later, I hope he is calling to see if I am settled and not to put evil thoughts in my head.

Ed, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 12:37 (sixteen years ago) link

Do you think that other places in the same line of work would be the same - that it is a problem of the nature of the business? Or are these places both just badly run?

i.e. is it something that you could change - either through working things out at this job (learning from the past mistakes of the old one) or at getting another job - or is it just the nature of the beast, and something you'd have to put up with anywhere? (And therefore career change would be more necessary for being re-gruntled?)

I am eating Sag Paneer. Numness.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 12:41 (sixteen years ago) link

I think it is common to places that had a lot of money very quickly and spent it badly, of which there are many in my industry. Not sure if it is something I could change but I can try and influence

I am a little worried that, working in any VC backed company, the VCs may lose interest if returns aren't forthcoming. In addition I don't think that the CEO they parachuted in is doing enough to change entrenched ideas and practices. I worry that in these situations it tends to be last in, first out.

I talked about some of these issues at length with all three people who interviewed me, but they put a very good gloss on it.

Ed, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 12:53 (sixteen years ago) link

Things are very serious today, let's have a picture of a mean looking cat:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2152/2345477432_b8ca7c8eea.jpg?v=0

Ed, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 12:54 (sixteen years ago) link

I am happy, because I have accidentally discovered the best site on the interweb:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/

I was actually googling for "the nature of consciousness"* (because I was discussing it with one of the OKC suitors) and it had a link to an article there about neuron firing.

*He says on his page that he is interested in this. I certainly hope that he means in the scientific sense, because googling also lead to some um, rather philosophically unsound looking cultish sites, and articles about philosophy. I suppose this is a problem one can come at from many different angles. Scientific, religious, philosophical, sitting around really stoned going "wow, duuuuuude."

Oh dear.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 13:02 (sixteen years ago) link

That cat is saying "I wuz promised FLAT PANEL dude"

Forest Pines Mk2, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 13:05 (sixteen years ago) link

Cats don't like flat panels because they are not as warm and impossible to sleep on. My bandmates' cat is very fond of sleeping on top of their old iMac because the monitor fan makes it so warm and cosy.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 13:07 (sixteen years ago) link

My cat was very fond of sleeping on top of my old CRT monitor, too - until the day he apparently knocked it on the floor while I was out.

Forest Pines Mk2, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 13:10 (sixteen years ago) link

My cats sometimes lie on our laptop, which isn't very good as it's a piece of shit Dell that's prone to overheating at least 5 times a week.

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 13:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Sorry, I'm lost in reading about DARK MATTERS and GIANT COSMIC VOIDS!!!

A giant gaping hole in the universe, how great is that?

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 13:16 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/08/070823164846.htm

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 13:20 (sixteen years ago) link

Are cats just better/more popular than science?

:-(

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 13:28 (sixteen years ago) link

Harmonia are playing Glasgow in July. and supposedly Cluster will be playing later in the year too.

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 13:35 (sixteen years ago) link

It'll be Kluster next

Tom D., Wednesday, 19 March 2008 13:38 (sixteen years ago) link

Then Lilienthal

Tom D., Wednesday, 19 March 2008 13:38 (sixteen years ago) link

Are you coming up for it?

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 13:48 (sixteen years ago) link

They're playing here first, of course, these provincials *sigh*

Tom D., Wednesday, 19 March 2008 13:49 (sixteen years ago) link

Your ma might wanna go

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 14:50 (sixteen years ago) link

Well they did that big announcement - but the details are still cloudy. The biggest division of our company is being sold off - but for the immediate future, the new owners have signed a services contract with the rest of the company. So, my job carries on as before, except that I might be called upon to be exceptionally anal about which office I am doing jobs for at any particular moment. For now, at any rate.

Forest Pines Mk2, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 15:50 (sixteen years ago) link

So no change then?

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 15:56 (sixteen years ago) link

Well, at least your position is safe.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 15:59 (sixteen years ago) link

That's the main thing. Were you worried FP?

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:04 (sixteen years ago) link

I was a bit worried - we knew a sale was ongoing, but not the details. This does mean that if there's a risk of me losing my job, I should get at least 3 months notice of it.

Forest Pines Mk2, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:07 (sixteen years ago) link

And a whopping great redundancy payment?

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:10 (sixteen years ago) link

Get that in writing!

Sigh. Turns out my boss is actually in today, but shows no sign that he is ever going to meet with me. What should I do? remind him? Or would that be hassling him?

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:17 (sixteen years ago) link

If it's been all day and you've not spoken to him, remind him!

Forest Pines Mk2, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:19 (sixteen years ago) link

I have only got 45 minutes left in this dump. I'm not going to risk it.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:45 (sixteen years ago) link

He has gone now. Tomorrow, I will remind him. I am seriously counting down the days until this assignment ends.

Come on, mood, shift shift back to good again.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 17:25 (sixteen years ago) link

This strange gig I'm playing on Monday gets less and less organised and more and more strange. I wonder, at this point, if it will actually happen at all.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 17:28 (sixteen years ago) link

When is the Diamanda Galas gig? I wonder if I would like her.

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 17:34 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm supposed to go tonight. I have no idea, I can't tell what you'd like at all.

Today looks to be even more shit than the rest of the week - forgot to buy a travelcard this morning. I'd been intending to get a daily one for today and not buy another one until next Tuesday, to save money - but then got stung at St. Pancras and if you don't just renew the weekly one, they whack a fine on you which works out to more than a weekly travelcard would cost. :-(

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 20 March 2008 09:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh, good old Carruthers, he always makes me laugh.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 20 March 2008 09:50 (sixteen years ago) link

What has he done now?

Ed, Thursday, 20 March 2008 09:51 (sixteen years ago) link

We have been arguing about the giant hole in space.

Oh, I have a headache and tea has not made it go away.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 20 March 2008 10:04 (sixteen years ago) link

As predicted in Quark Strangeness and charm.

Ed, Thursday, 20 March 2008 10:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Mr. Carruthers has all three in abundance. Ha ha.

When are you off for Eostre?

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 20 March 2008 10:07 (sixteen years ago) link

tomorrow, afternoon.

Ed, Thursday, 20 March 2008 10:10 (sixteen years ago) link

Dear Customer,

We thought that you might like to know that PETE DOHERTY has been confirmed as support for THE SONICS date at The Forum in London this Sunday:

LONDON The Forum - Sun 23 March 2008

Damn, can I swap my Friday ticket for a Sunday one?

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 20 March 2008 10:18 (sixteen years ago) link

Surely you mean can I swap my Sunday ticket for a Friday one?

Tom D., Thursday, 20 March 2008 10:20 (sixteen years ago) link

I daresay there's proba a few Sonics fans wanting to swap for a support band that's anyone but PETE DOHERTY in capitals. Looks like a solo gig.

Mark G, Thursday, 20 March 2008 10:21 (sixteen years ago) link

Well, yes. Oh never mind.

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 20 March 2008 10:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Yes, I'd pay to avoid Doherty.

This headache is getting worse. I might have to go to Boots and get some aspirin or something.

Have a good time in France. Be sure to bring back some good cheeeese.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 20 March 2008 10:23 (sixteen years ago) link

Come on, mood, shift shift back to good again. Come on, be a friend.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 20 March 2008 10:24 (sixteen years ago) link

When are you off for Eostre?

The :zoviet*france: album? I've got that!

Tom D., Thursday, 20 March 2008 10:27 (sixteen years ago) link

No, no, the bastardised pagan fertility Equinox festival thinly dressed up as a Christian holiday, which is responsible for our 4-day weekend coming up, oh, tomorrow! Hurrah!

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 20 March 2008 10:30 (sixteen years ago) link

Morning!

when I saw Doherty, as part of Babyshambles at the Primavera Sound Festival in 2006, he was not late, not outrageous, not really good or bad - just, well, boring. And that was the day after the "tourniquet on Easyjet" incident. But one of my friends had the nous to break the tedium by suggesting "Let's go and see what's going on on the other stage?" and because of that, we were introduced to the fun and entertaining I'm from Barcelona.

But, anyway, surely the good Colonel can just spend longer in TEH PUB beforehand???

I joined freecycle yesterday! It's great! I've already unloaded my un-used computer desk on casters to a middle-aged Chinese molecular medicine expert, and that was just after Johnny B turned up to collect my beanbag lounger (it was fun squeezing it into the back of his housemate's car, I just hope he was able to get it out again).

Freecycle means I get to read emails like THIS:

Hi there,
I am offering a supply of fresh natural manure from my 2 lovely horses.
The paddock is just outside of didcot but i cannot deliver it. If
interested please email me!
Thanks
Amy

Grandpont Genie, Thursday, 20 March 2008 10:41 (sixteen years ago) link

There's a Monty Python sketch about that

Tom D., Thursday, 20 March 2008 10:44 (sixteen years ago) link

lol I'm going on Friday so I don't need to avoid Doherty! TBH I have no idea who the support is on Friday. It's being put on by some mod festival weekend thingy.

I saw I'm From Barcelona last year (missus is a big fan) they were loads of fun, chucking balloons around and stuff. It was all horribly twee of course :)

xpost

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 20 March 2008 10:46 (sixteen years ago) link

must...read...posts...properly.

I overslept today! well, either I slept through the alarm or I turned the alarm off and went back to sleep. I have no idea which! This is of course in no way related to the fact that I broke my alcohol fast with krupnik (Polish honey liqueur) and Polish cherry flavoured vodka while listening to the Dukes of Stratsphear and Los Camposinos. I have prolly misspelt the names of both those bands.

Grandpont Genie, Thursday, 20 March 2008 10:49 (sixteen years ago) link

I am waiting for Kate to get back so I can ask her what her favourite track is on Chips from the Chocolate Fireball. Mine is What in the World at the moment but it keeps changing!

Grandpont Genie, Thursday, 20 March 2008 10:51 (sixteen years ago) link


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