big hoos & owenf watch 'battlestar galactica' and no one talks abt eps they haven't seen yet

I liked Caprica too -- at least as much as some of the stuff in the last two seasons of BSG

BSG and Lost both failed miserably on delivering the mythology they promised in the beginning - so is it possible to create a popular show like this that doesn't have a promised mythology? Would people have kept tuning in to both shows without the Cylons having a plan or whatever the smoke monster bullshit was?

adama's softer side: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=0HvriOlru9U#t=6863s

I think it's possible for these sorts of shows to deliver on mythology if they didn't rely on our own mythology to tidy things up. But I think going all God-y mostly serves as a major hedge and controversy deflector. I mean, even Harry Potter celebrates Christmas.

George R.R. Martin famously bashed/spoiled "Knowing," "Galactica" and "Life On Mars" with Writing 101, kids. Adam and Eve, God Did It, It Was All a Dream? I've seen Clarion students left stunned and bleeding for turning in stories with those endings.

there's also the issue of being faithful to its origins, maybe. even on the first viewing, i had minor cringes when language/plot points got too close to LOLMormonism

resolution of Starbuck's storyline in particular made me want to stab, so stupid.

― Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, April 18, 2012 4:09 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i didn't really find it all that unsatisfying, though i'm not sure why. cavil's ending was way more unsatisfying.

I think going all God-y mostly serves as a major hedge and controversy deflector. I mean, even Harry Potter celebrates Christmas.

― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, April 18, 2012 6:37 PM (34 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

idk felt pretty hand-wavey to me

i mean i'm not disagreeing with you at all i guess, i was just sorta nonplussed

also head six/gaius in nyc & robot montage was dumb

i kinda liked that moment in the CIC where it finally all comes to a head and gaius & six go "...that's it? that's all you wanted us to do?"

LOL, yeah, Cavil just like, "Welp, time to top myself! Bye!"

also head six/gaius in nyc & robot montage was dumb

this was the worst part of the entire series.

Cavil offing himself was worth it, imo

he was the best cylon

at least Cavil's suicide was FUNNY. The Starbuck thing was just nonsensical.

All the revelations about Cavil and Ellen make her shenanigans w/him on New Caprica like 1,000x more skeevy.

like... she's a ghost/angel? that didn't know she was a ghost/angel? and spent months and months agonizing and acting crazy over this fact? also has a ship that came out of nowhere? also interacts with others/kills people/has sex etc like a normal person? just waht

also head six/gaius in nyc & robot montage was dumb

absolutel atrocious. "the dancing robot is going to murder us all! unless...." insert Ronald D. Moore cameo.

Hoos, owenf did you like it when Adama talked about THE MAIN VEIN?

what about his angry teethbrushing

also - PIGEON

GET IT STARBUCK IS LIKE A PIGEON

http://991.com/NewGallery/Nelly-Furtado-Im-Like-A-Bird-179414.jpg

i mean, "he's stuck with the bird" worked for me

i was most frustrated at starbuck's back and forth between teeth-gnashing insanity and old-school hard-nosed competence

also the actual sound of tory's windpipe getting crushed was a little much i thought

but yeah i mean in a certain annoying sense the heads being 'angels' is a frustratingly literal deus ex machina

But what was your favorite part?

favorite emotional bit of the finale was boomer's "i've made my choice"

the epic as fuck space battle was pretty rad

also reveal of the moon was pretty good

for favorite moment of the show its probably the new caprica arc and any low-drama space battle involving starbuck trash talking and shooting at shit

also "GAIUS BALTAR?!"

"It's all God's plan."

"You know he doesn't like being called that."

http://pendletonpanther.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/debbie.gif

lol

any time Adama and Starbuck would do the "What do you hear?" "Nothing but the rain." = A+ moment

my favorite part may have been when Gaius was hallucinating (?) talking with himself

I still really dig this series, which is kind of shocking considering its best episode is probably its first.

It was fun watching it as it went on because of Moore's commentaries. He was always pretty upfront that they didn't really know where it was going from season to season. Also there was an episode (Black Market, maybe) where he basically apologised and spent the entire commentary explaining how it all went wrong from conception to writing.

read in one of those interviews on a blog that moore said "six in times square was an image we'd had and liked for a long time, at least two seasons" and i was like "............................................"

i liked the first reveal of head gaius too, and gaius/six talking to head six/head gaius and going "you can hear her/him?" to each other was a+

"All Along the Watchtower" was something he'd wanted to use since his days of writing for Roswell.

also the first time the interior of a cylon ship was shown, with Sharon meeting all her copies and planting the bomb. that was a great moment.

xp

the epic as fuck space battle was pretty rad

There were so many!

My favorite part was in The Hub when Roslin pulled the pressure bandage off Baltar (and then put it back again).

Sharon meeting her copies was awesome.

the whole athena/helo arc, both those characters in retrospect wound up being so great--so much of the show they were just sorta workhorse characters for action scenes to get hung on but their stories resolved maybe better than anyone's imo

they were at least fairly consistent characters

and obvs galactica jumping into the atmosphere of new caprica with vipers hauling ass out was one of the raddest moments

Starbuck got raptored, then she got raptured

they were at least fairly consistent characters

― Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, April 18, 2012 7:53 PM (13 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah that's part of what i mean--in retrospect they seemed almost more like real people than anyone else

starbuck for most of this season was reminding me a lot of buffy in season 7 of that show--a confident character suddenly shown in nearly-constant hysterics and then whipped back to hypercompetence at a moments notice when the plot needed it, and not always in ways that made sense for the inner life of the character

and obvs galactica jumping into the atmosphere of new caprica with vipers hauling ass out was one of the raddest moments

yessssss

best part