big hoos & owenf watch 'battlestar galactica' and no one talks abt eps they haven't seen yet

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ha!
i had to look up the final five aswell.

I liked the batshit theories people were coming up with before the reveal. You know, like Adama is a cylon and Lee and his bro were actually hybrids

heard a number of batshit theories that were much better than what actually got presented on-screen.

resolution of Starbuck's storyline in particular made me want to stab, so stupid.

Can I just say I hated the hit job the show did on Callie, particularly w/r/t the provenance of her child?

Like, fucking HOTDOG? Are you kidding me?

callie was always kinda crazy, let's be real

crazy like a fox

The hot dog Callie thing was some serious retconing. Ron Moore admitted So.

i admit, when it was actually happening i was like laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame

http://mimg.ugo.com/201001/35847/cuts/hot-dog_240x135.jpg

"Even I don't believe this bullshit."

one of the things that most irritated me was how the series gradually abandoned all of its precepts about cylons - they have a "plan" (er, no they don't), they can't reproduce (er, well, some can!), they can't die (well they can now that we blew up their resurrection ship!), models share memories/experiences (only when it's convenient!), they have some secret understanding of the theological underpinnings of the universe (eh, not really)

just uuuurgh so lame

I am probably the only person to rep for the series Caprica, but with the caveat that you have to pretend it is completely unrelated to BSG because whenever they mention anything that ties the two it's a weak point.

yeah but a fun ride xpost

I liked Caprica too -- at least as much as some of the stuff in the last two seasons of BSG

BSG and Lost both failed miserably on delivering the mythology they promised in the beginning - so is it possible to create a popular show like this that doesn't have a promised mythology? Would people have kept tuning in to both shows without the Cylons having a plan or whatever the smoke monster bullshit was?

adama's softer side: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=0HvriOlru9U#t=6863s

I think it's possible for these sorts of shows to deliver on mythology if they didn't rely on our own mythology to tidy things up. But I think going all God-y mostly serves as a major hedge and controversy deflector. I mean, even Harry Potter celebrates Christmas.

George R.R. Martin famously bashed/spoiled "Knowing," "Galactica" and "Life On Mars" with Writing 101, kids. Adam and Eve, God Did It, It Was All a Dream? I've seen Clarion students left stunned and bleeding for turning in stories with those endings.

there's also the issue of being faithful to its origins, maybe. even on the first viewing, i had minor cringes when language/plot points got too close to LOLMormonism

resolution of Starbuck's storyline in particular made me want to stab, so stupid.

― Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, April 18, 2012 4:09 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i didn't really find it all that unsatisfying, though i'm not sure why. cavil's ending was way more unsatisfying.

I think going all God-y mostly serves as a major hedge and controversy deflector. I mean, even Harry Potter celebrates Christmas.

― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, April 18, 2012 6:37 PM (34 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

idk felt pretty hand-wavey to me

i mean i'm not disagreeing with you at all i guess, i was just sorta nonplussed

also head six/gaius in nyc & robot montage was dumb

i kinda liked that moment in the CIC where it finally all comes to a head and gaius & six go "...that's it? that's all you wanted us to do?"

LOL, yeah, Cavil just like, "Welp, time to top myself! Bye!"

also head six/gaius in nyc & robot montage was dumb

this was the worst part of the entire series.

Cavil offing himself was worth it, imo

he was the best cylon

at least Cavil's suicide was FUNNY. The Starbuck thing was just nonsensical.

All the revelations about Cavil and Ellen make her shenanigans w/him on New Caprica like 1,000x more skeevy.

like... she's a ghost/angel? that didn't know she was a ghost/angel? and spent months and months agonizing and acting crazy over this fact? also has a ship that came out of nowhere? also interacts with others/kills people/has sex etc like a normal person? just waht

also head six/gaius in nyc & robot montage was dumb

absolutel atrocious. "the dancing robot is going to murder us all! unless...." insert Ronald D. Moore cameo.

Hoos, owenf did you like it when Adama talked about THE MAIN VEIN?

what about his angry teethbrushing

also - PIGEON

GET IT STARBUCK IS LIKE A PIGEON

http://991.com/NewGallery/Nelly-Furtado-Im-Like-A-Bird-179414.jpg

i mean, "he's stuck with the bird" worked for me

i was most frustrated at starbuck's back and forth between teeth-gnashing insanity and old-school hard-nosed competence

also the actual sound of tory's windpipe getting crushed was a little much i thought

but yeah i mean in a certain annoying sense the heads being 'angels' is a frustratingly literal deus ex machina

But what was your favorite part?

favorite emotional bit of the finale was boomer's "i've made my choice"

the epic as fuck space battle was pretty rad

also reveal of the moon was pretty good

for favorite moment of the show its probably the new caprica arc and any low-drama space battle involving starbuck trash talking and shooting at shit

also "GAIUS BALTAR?!"

"It's all God's plan."

"You know he doesn't like being called that."

http://pendletonpanther.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/debbie.gif

lol

any time Adama and Starbuck would do the "What do you hear?" "Nothing but the rain." = A+ moment

my favorite part may have been when Gaius was hallucinating (?) talking with himself

I still really dig this series, which is kind of shocking considering its best episode is probably its first.

It was fun watching it as it went on because of Moore's commentaries. He was always pretty upfront that they didn't really know where it was going from season to season. Also there was an episode (Black Market, maybe) where he basically apologised and spent the entire commentary explaining how it all went wrong from conception to writing.