rolling "Is This Racist?" thread

lol

what exactly is wrong with this tho, or are you just on some "this is reverse sexism!" shit

i don't think there is anything wrong with this. i do have some (soft) reservations about this sort of thinking when it becomes a set of hard-and-fast rules. it's not the moral principles i object to, as they seem quite sound, but rather the rigidity and seeming puritanism of the stance.

you see it as rigidity, but i read that post and i see a lot of logical reasoning as to why this specific case is fucked. there's a precedent and a history of this type of stuff, and the blog was responding to it. not necessarily saying that men of color can never create art that centers on women of color, just that this piece of art is an example of going about it wrong.

when it comes down to it, from what i can tell, the cake thing has succeeded in A) offending/hurting women of color and B) making white people laugh. from any vantage point, hard to call it a success imo

oh hey it's a zillion post argument about whether that's obviously totally fucked and offensive is fucked and offensive

you see it as rigidity, but i read that post and i see a lot of logical reasoning as to why this specific case is fucked. there's a precedent and a history of this type of stuff, and the blog was responding to it. not necessarily saying that men of color can never create art that centers on women of color, just that this piece of art is an example of going about it wrong.

when it comes down to it, from what i can tell, the cake thing has succeeded in A) offending/hurting women of color and B) making white people laugh. from any vantage point, hard to call it a success imo

i think we're speaking at cross purposes. i agree with the blogger's criticism of this piece. i generally agree with the principles in which her criticisms are grounded. otoh, i have some vague reservations about the way those basically good principles are sometimes (or perhaps just could be) applied. that's all. not trying to stir up an argument or claim "reverse sexism" or any such bullshit. just exploring some tangents.

fwiw, i read the laughter in that video as a sign of discomfort more than jollity. not that that really matters much.

I read the laughter in that video as a sign that people don't take screaming cakes seriously as a medium for making a political point.

well maybe we can at least all agree that artists are the fucking worst.

not always, but sometimes they really are.

"Haha, well, this is certainly making me feel uncomfortable!"
"Because it raises your awareness of female genital mutilations in Africa?"
"…um, yes. ………. ……. No."

Are the laughing women in on the 'joke'?

people like makode linde are the absolute worst and i sincerely wish he had the balls to have himself butchered in public, that's obviously what he wants. one of those pathetic self-absorbed twats who live to spread themselves like a virus and use everything and everyone they can to do so.

*closes facebook page*

where my tea at

really doesn't like artists

not braying racist fame whore hypocrites who love being artists because it validates their every fart no. even if they're aware of it!

you know, that cake is pretty well crafted

lol

I can think of a lot better ways to get the word out about FGM than this stunt. What's particularly egregious here is that this was supposed to be art (hence my question whether the laughing ppl were 'in on the joke', i.e. active participants) but it seems to be the kind of art that causes less light than heat in the end and it has a disturbing smugness to it. To what real extent do Swedes need additional info on African FGM? Is this a learning moment for ppl at right-wing Swedish newspapers or just sub-par trolling?

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Natalie Ferraro
i love your work. thank you for being brave and thoughtful and creative about how we look at atrocities.
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Martin Fredriksson
This piece of art is painful, absurd, abusive. And pain, absurdity and abuse should preferably take place somewhere else, where we don't have to see it. I think all the hate that is thrown at the artist now is becoming part of the piece of art itself, showing how selective people can be in what they let bother them, and what we can just ignore. We are all having a slice of this cake every day, but we usually don't have to hear the desperate horror while we carve it out. I'm disturbed, puzzled.
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Ekene Daniel
Sell out. You disgust me!
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Victoria Holt
I also think it's really sad that you're deleting some people's comments. Art is about a conversation, and you SURE started one. So own up and take the hate, you deserve it!
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Didier Pando
tu te crois malin ? conard !!! https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s320x320/540280_208772595904058_100003139573389_346865_770455583_n.jpg

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Dwayne Jackson
I get it. You were raised with nothing but white people, so you think this IS art?!? DUDE you are fucked up. Why don't you go lay in a tub of bleach. Put your head under, and INHALE. That way you can be what you want inside and out.
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Ismail Mahomed
There are three elements to making good art:
Aesthetics
Responsibility
Truth
You fail dismally at all three!!!
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Chad Gardner
it looks like voodoo art yes/no
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racist?

don't see much evidence of racism in linde's work

We are all having a slice of this cake every day, but we usually don't have to hear the desperate horror while we carve it out. I'm disturbed, puzzled.

What if we are all diabetic.

I am reasonably certain I am not having a slice of African female genital mutilation cake every day

I mean first off, my pants still fit

haha that guy literally does have a slice of that cake every day.

second, i am not simultaneously barfing and crying all the time

It's the kind of thing one would tend to remember, methinks

crying maybe xp

* the minister of culture is carving out the crotch of a screaming caricature of an african woman and feeding it to her.
* everyone's taking out their cameras

Q: Where's the best place not to be under these circumstances?

In line for seconds?

Arby's!

A: Newark

would not want to be on Facebook.com.nu this afternoon.

What kind of tea does one serve with African female genital mutilation cake? Malarial tea?

This is After getting my vagaga mutilated by the minister of culture, Lena Adelsohn Liljeroth. Before cutting me up she whispered ‘Your life will be better after this’ in my ear.'

should this go before or after apaches on my ballot?

vagaga

rama rama-ma

RE: The cake.

It looks a LOT worse as a thumbnail. In higher res, it actually looks like a really well-made sculpture. If you changed everyone in the picture to frowning it would be 1000x easier to swallow.

that's what she screamed

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Before cutting me up she whispered ‘Your life will be better after this’ in my ear.'

maybe it's funnier in swedish

i wanna make a genital mutilation hologram joke but it's not working so i'm posting this instead because i want to...

...have my cake and eat it too.

oh i see pplains was already on that trail

whenever racist cakes call, i'm already there, my friend.

No red velvet, no credibility.

Will this guy become an art star or a pariah?

I bet he's a hoot when he works behind the counter at Luby's!

"You didn't get much."
"I was going to add some peach cobbler, but the croutons started screaming at me."

I'm surprised that this thing hasn't made it to cakewrecks.com yet. Surely it must.

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If cakes could scream, would we be so cavalier about cutting them up? We might, if they screamed all the time, for no good reason.

fuckin cakes, always with the screaming