ILX running running thread

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^ artfully hiding my thousand yard stare. Best greasy and slightly undercooked seafront chips EVER though. Got round in 3.26, last four miles was v v grim. Walking around like I've got two metal legs of slightly different lengths now.

That's fast! Not bad for 10 weeks.

London marathon next weekend! I'm way off peak fitness but I'll get round

Seandalai, how did you doooo?

I got round :) I was about 10 minutes off my PB but I'll take it after a bad year in which I almost gave up running completely. Had some novel pain experiences caused (I think) by tying overly narrow shoes too tightly - for about two hours after the finish I couldn't put any weight on my right foot without screaming in pain and perturbing the people around me. Anyway, London's still my favourite marathon to run, the atmosphere is, as they say, unforgettable.

Aww good stuff! Have done London twice in the dim and distant past (about ten years ago or something) and yes, the crowds were amazing then too. Hope you're recovering alright. Tuesday was the worst day last week for me as far as fatigue goes - the bruising comes out and all the excitement wears off.

nice1 dude!

both of you!

thread heroes

today i started the running group thing i mentioned upthread and it was actually fun! i hadn't run very far yet this year because of where i run there is a big hill that causes me to quit when i'm done but on the flat i managed to cover 3 miles and did better than all but like 2 people. i am proud!

*epic 8-minute guitar solo on a mountaintop in harbl's honor*

\(o_o)/
but i should note none of these people are expert runners!

running w/people is fun

Let's go for a run.

where should the ilx marathon be

hooray harbl!!

got shin splints last year, stopped running, got new shoes (went to a gait analysis place for appropriate shoes) and after about a week of running (just 3x in that week, and very short distances), it's starting to feel tender again. aggh! i just want to run...i have developed a very strong aversion to the elliptical, while running is therapeutic.

I've just resigned myself that I'm going to live my life on the cusp of injury, if not completely injured. It's a mentally exhausting place to be, but I see no alternatives at this point.

With chronic injury, there are just too many variables. You can change one thing, let some time pass and you may get better, but you don't know if the thing you changed help or if it was there mere passage of time. Then the injury comes back again, so you change something and then something else starts hurting. Then you still have the original injury to deal with along with this brand new injury. Now you are trying to isolate causes for two injuries at the same. Meanwhile you mind is completely screwing with you, second guessing every single pain. Afraid of the worst, you just end up running less and end up feeling unfulfilled by your running. Good times.

Afraid of the worst, you just end up running less and end up feeling unfulfilled by your running

this is me! i run and think to myself, this is fantastic, wouldn't it be fabulous if i could just keep running like this? and then 5 minutes later, i get some pangs in my shins and then i get worried and decide i have to stop (because last year, i ran through the pain, and that was a BAD IDEA...)

running through the pain is a bad idea. stretching properly after a run is a very good one. if you don't do it already you must start.

& these strengthening exercises are a big help too.

http://www.sportsinjuryclinic.net/sport-injuries/ankle-achilles-shin-pain/shin-splints/shin-splints-strengthening-exercises

Other things people will tell you to do because it solved all their problems:

Forefoot/midfoot strike
Increase your cadence
Stretch before running
Stretch after running
Don't stretch
Wear more expensive shoes
Wear minimal shoes
Wear no shoes
Chi/Pose running
"core" exercises
Countless alternate medicine BS solutions
Run more
Run less
Pool run
Cross train
Quit running

i think just ~listen to yr body~

this is p cool tho too

Run more
Run less
Pool run

eh stretching is pretty key, especially if you've had injuries in the past.

i never stretch

Listen to your body is the worst advice. Because no one can do it, too many cognitive biases, subjectivity of pain, etc.

some people don't need to but most people should.

Plenty of recent research that shows stretching does no good.

Listen to your body is the worst advice. Because no one can do it, too many cognitive biases, subjectivity of pain, etc.

― Jeff, Wednesday, May 2, 2012 5:34 PM (23 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you need to find some positivity within yrself man

i've honestly never heard anyone claim that but whatever.

its been all over the news

ive seen some experts say pre run stretching is dangerous and counterproductive and should be totally abandoned

you need to find some positivity within yrself man

Ha, you're right about that.

At least in regards to running. I'm pretty positive otherwise.

i think im gonna start running w/my garmin again and try to motivate myself or w/e

been doing some plyometrics recently, its p fun

i want to try to do these mile long intervals at threshold that ive heard are good, but it sounds painful

I heard Garmins cause injury. And maybe the swine flu.

damn thats prob where i got the swine flu then

i never ever stretch, it's just too much hassle for me. i had shin splints for 4 months last year but since going back running in autumn i've barely had a twinge in any muscle. my caveat would be that i really think listening to your body is only possible with a decent bit of experience under your belt, at the start you can't distinguish a fleeting pain you should run through and an injury.

running totally cured my shin splints, so my advice is to just keep running (bad advice)

my advice also is to constantly be paying attention to yr form, this might just be how i entertain myself tho

stopping running then running cured my shin splints.

More things you can do:

Run slower
Run faster
foam roll
Lose weight
Gain weight

i stretch but i don't know how well/properly done my stretches are :/

but other than the knee issue that i went to the physio for, and then a minor fibroid issue, i've been lucky with injuries. i currently live with a physio so am confident that if any problems arise they can be dealt with.

I'm going for a run right now. I'm really going to listen to my body and report back to the thread.

ive seen some experts say pre run stretching is dangerous and counterproductive and should be totally abandoned

have read plenty of stuff saying no stretching necessary.

i love foam rolling

i don't really stretch. there are some exercises i would like to do that require more flexibility than i have though. so i guess maybe i should. anyway i'm pretty excited about running atm but sore. not going today. i went yesterday and ran uphill a lot again. i'm going to be a powerhouse!

hills are awesome once you get into them