Kenny Dalglish Won't Be Delivering the Module: English Premiership 2011-12

ah this is just getting a weight off my shoulders. we're unwatchable this season and not because of the defeats, the unwatchability is the prime cause of the defeats if anything.

eh you know if you were in connor's shoes you'd have stayed on too once asked. couple of months extra pay before the inevitable

i read something this week saying curbs didnt take the job cos he wouldnt accept a wage reduction on relegation, so uh maybe morgan's sensible book-keeping is kind of a silver lining at least

otoh megson in the stands, ruh roh

idk it's no good to say it but maybe yo-yo is not the worst place you could be. I'm no expert on what it takes to make the leap up to staying in the top division for good but more fail, and fail with disastrous effect, than succeed and keeping a lid on spending is certainly an inhibitor but it's also the safe path in the medium/long term.

i can't fault the sensible book-keeping, i don't wanna throw stupid money at the problem. if i was Connor i'd have snatched their hands off, obv.

Morgan and Moxey don't appear to know anything about football, is the problem. the book-keeping part of the equation ideally shd happen alongside an imaginative approach to getting the right management staff, having a vision for the club that goes beyond "being in PL as cheap as possible" and trying to play football. if we sit mid-table in the Championship on those terms i'd be happier than the farce that's unfolded over the last 3 seasons tbh.

Albion and Hodgson have their flaws but appear to be a much better model of this kind of approach than we've ever managed. and that's on the back of a smaller fan-base.

hmmm failure at a higher level is kinda often a necessary step from succeeding at a lower. I mean I'm just devil's advocating here i'd have had connor poisoned by now obv.

the thing is that the flaws are systemic, have been there since we got promoted, and Connor's been part of that system from the beginning

tbf to Connor I have no idea how much involvement he had in transfer policy, and obv we're not likely to find out now. maybe he wd have realised the importance of having full backs or something.

Tevez is gonna do it for these fuckers isn't he

there's a little sick part of my stomach that thinks the cunts cd still offer him the job in the Championship next season. continuity's a good thing but ffs there are limits.

Connor’s own fate will be decided after the final game at Wigan on May 13, but he said yesterday he would like many of the current squad to remain at the club.

then i read stuff like this and wonder how easy it is to buy poison

ha i've just remembered i was having a mutual commiseration session with a Villa fan outside the pub last night

albion yo-yo'd for years til they got a foothold, you lot stayed up there for a while. if the finances are in good nick then at least it's only a football problem - would you rather be qpr getting relegated?

gotta look at newcastle's example, they'd never have sorted themselves out on the hoof in the prem. relegation is necessary sometimes

Bitterly disappointed Tevez still knows how to play football and make goals. It just wasn't what I expected.

i can live with relegation, as i say it's the manner of it, and the worries about what will be learned. nobody's making very encouraging noises about improving the football element.

saw some graffiti in town this morning saying OPPOSE THE EPL, SUNDAY APRIL 22ND and i was like yeah i'm down for that, but i suppose it was just a horribly formed D

Newcastle have a shitload more money and a bigger fanbase though, they were always going to come straight back up.

Agree that West Brom were up and down loads pre-Hodgson, and they would probably have gone down without them. I don't think relegation is the end of the world for Wolves really, there are other clubs, Wigan particularly, who could well be completely screwed by going down but I reckon Wolves would at least have a decent foundation to build off in the Championship, with the right manager. Last bit is crucial obviously and also the hardest bit to get right even without an idiot chairman.

current squad sans the 2 or 3 genuinely good players in there is gonna struggle in the Championship, i'm calling it. and now enough of my moaning :)

It's a shame we don't have a City fan here to give us his/her thoughts on the Tevez situation. I'd imagine if he plays, scores, and they end up winning the league then all will be forgiven. But if he plays and they still end up not winning the league it's got to feel a bit like eating your own shit. Or maybe someone else's.

Not a Citeh fan, but could it be possible they keep Tevez on board if they offload Balotelli this summer?

I think it's impossible to say at the moment - a lot hangs on whether they win the league, and if they don't, whether Mancini gets the elbow.

get rid of two from three imo

Fuck it. Double whammy. Watching both games simultaneously and Carroll gets there seconds before Tevez.

Oh fucking fuck

Tevez got there before Carroll for me. Still shit

Tevez hat-trick

golf club celebration, the twat

This is a truly terrible footballing week so far

can well imagine there's pro-tevez city fans that think mancini's a twat and the money is abstract and someone else's therefore nbd

that was fucking magnificent tbf

oh also re tevez staying there's some talk aguero/madrid may be a thing this summer

guh

some dopey stuff from rangers rite now, just hoofing it to a stranded zamora

Blackburn mounting a serious relegation challenge now

the way this is going swansea should really score a couple more before it's done, i don't know how much of that is them being particularly ruthless despite being 3-0 up and how much is blackburn being utterly rubbish. (xp)

Well that was fucking brutal. (bad) City were just so clinical. Watching it, it didn't feel like we were getting slammed 6-1 (maybe it was all the beer I drank, though), but at the same time we had very few clear cut chances to complain about. Have to say I lol'ed at Tevez' celebration for his hat trick. I hate (bad) City, but I actually quite like Tevez. Man City are the only team to properly destroy us this season (11-2 on aggregate: yikes). To whoever it was upthread last week saying Norwich never look capable or threatening: we've scored against *every* team in the premier league this season, and only failed to score in 5 games our of 34 so far. That's pretty threatening and capable.

load of bollocks today, really could have done with cisse

will make next saturday's mugging of spurs at loftus road all the sweeter tho

:/

Craig - I started watching the match after Surman had pulled it back to 2-1 and Norwich looked like they might well get a draw for quite a while, then there was an avalanche of goals.

Yeah, it was still fun at 2-1, and we still looked in it. Then they realised they could just pass past us if they wanted a goal that badly. :(

Bollocks. Still, the train journey to the Midlands was fun. And so was the journey back. The bit in the middle was a bit shit.

sigurdsson tho

v saveable, on reviewing

Some of City's goals yesterday..blimey.

2nd was a beaut

I think i hate Ashley Young

whatta diver

Sickening thuggery from Villa against their erstwhile star goes rightly punished

that was a close one.

Nearly a bit of magic there from Scholes. I was embarrassed when he came back, but have to admit the team is much better with him.

And right on cue he gets injured.

Worst shot ever from Valencia