big hoos & owenf watch 'battlestar galactica' and no one talks abt eps they haven't seen yet

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Can anybody help me fill in the blanks on how the cylons coming to N-C was a part of Sharon/6's whole "repentant cylons" deal and why they suddenly seemed to lose all their clout as soon as they got there?

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, April 13, 2012 12:31 AM (43 minutes ago) Bookmark

They were hoping to co-exist, but they went about it the wrong way. Hoping that occupation would somehow win the hearts and minds because obv there was a lot of distrust from the human side as they did wipe out their 12 planets of people. Maybe it only makes sense in the context of Iraq though, but you're right, it felt pretty amazing at the time. War of the Worlds and *maybe* Munich aside, Hollywood's attempts to address the issue were so bad that it felt like BSG was pretty much the only place in American culture really interested in exploring it.

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Friday, 13 April 2012 01:19 (fourteen years ago)

loose lips sink raptors Chiefy

owenf, Friday, 13 April 2012 01:25 (fourteen years ago)

Man watching a show where suicide bombing insurgents are the good guys fighting ostensibly well-meaning imperialist occupiers must have felt even crazier in 2005.

This absolutely accounts for a great deal of the show's contemporaneous appeal, and why so many of my friends otherwise not interested in sci-fi bought into this. Though of course the series does not sustain the parallels, to its detriment.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 13 April 2012 01:30 (fourteen years ago)

Dang I thought they were gonna sustain the New Caprica thing for a season or so, they got outta there way faster than I figured.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 13 April 2012 01:41 (fourteen years ago)

And they even changed the intro titles back! What a cheat.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 13 April 2012 01:51 (fourteen years ago)

shooting in nu-cap was $$$$ and they just had no budget. but the Galactica jumping into the atmosphere was A+ worth it imo

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Friday, 13 April 2012 01:59 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah I actually said "ballsy!" to my screen

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 13 April 2012 02:04 (fourteen years ago)

man so these first two eps after exodus felt like they could largely have come out of a dark swath of season 2

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 13 April 2012 03:11 (fourteen years ago)

this thread makes me want to watch all this again. if it wasn't for the 20 other dvds in front of the tv...

koogs, Friday, 13 April 2012 07:03 (fourteen years ago)

i didn't hate the boxing episode! filled in some gaps for me, though i could have done without adama's weird bloodied speech.

kind of hated kat

thank god starbuck has short hair again

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 13 April 2012 07:24 (fourteen years ago)

War of the Worlds and *maybe* Munich aside, Hollywood's attempts to address the issue were so bad that it felt like BSG was pretty much the only place in American culture really interested in exploring it.

― stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Friday, April 13, 2012 1:19 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

man i remember being disturbed as fuck by war of the worlds

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 13 April 2012 07:25 (fourteen years ago)

thought that starbuck's new ink was some sort of cylon tagging system. Took a while to realise it was her boyfriend's sports bro tagging system.

owenf, Friday, 13 April 2012 07:54 (fourteen years ago)

I hated kat too.

Jeff, Friday, 13 April 2012 11:18 (fourteen years ago)

TV critics Alan Sepinwall and Maureen Ryan have nice recaps/analysis of BSG eps if you are interested. Not spoilery and I really like their insight.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Friday, 13 April 2012 12:16 (fourteen years ago)

link?

catbus otm (gbx), Friday, 13 April 2012 15:05 (fourteen years ago)

http://sepinwall.blogspot.com/search/label/Battlestar%20Galactica

Jeff, Friday, 13 April 2012 15:09 (fourteen years ago)

man i am totally not interested in this lucy lawless character at all

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 14 April 2012 04:12 (fourteen years ago)

also lol @ gaius beardtar

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 14 April 2012 04:12 (fourteen years ago)

Lucy Lawless character gets mired in the kid mythology stuff and it's annoying. In honor of this thread I watched the Exodus eps again last night. I almost forgot how creepy/sleazy the cylons were -- Leoben and the attempted weird manipulation of Starbuck, the Cavil using Ellen, the mythology thing.

mh, Saturday, 14 April 2012 15:24 (fourteen years ago)

i still can't get over the degree to which the new caprica arc felt like a whole different (maybe better?) show

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 15 April 2012 16:57 (fourteen years ago)

btw kinda rmde @ the drug that put baltar treading water in the ocean just in case there weren't enough neon signs saying THIS IS ABOUT WATERBOARDING

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 15 April 2012 16:59 (fourteen years ago)

man i was really hoping the general strike would be a two parter

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 16 April 2012 04:49 (fourteen years ago)

but i was also hoping they'd occupy the factory so

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 16 April 2012 04:50 (fourteen years ago)

i still can't get over the degree to which the new caprica arc felt like a whole different (maybe better?) show

^this!

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 16 April 2012 05:23 (fourteen years ago)

oh right so we're looking for earth and shit, we forgot for 10 episodes

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 16 April 2012 05:45 (fourteen years ago)

better in part bc no matter how much praise this show receives the spaceship sets are still dorky

JIM THOMETHEUS (zachlyon), Monday, 16 April 2012 05:47 (fourteen years ago)

just noticed that the number of survivors in the titles is changing

i figured it must have been, but til now the fluctuations had been too small for me to notice

admiral bluffing is kinda getting old; we've never been given any reason to believe he would be totes ruthless, but we have plenty of opportunity to see him act like he's gonna be ruthless and then pull back. it just makes for lower stakes the next time he threatens to execute so-and-so bcz you've got no reason to think he'd actually do it.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 16 April 2012 05:48 (fourteen years ago)

love the fact that a hoos and owenf are living out a Portlandia sketch.

i need to watch this all in a row.

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Monday, 16 April 2012 05:51 (fourteen years ago)

haha yeah i saw that sketch last week

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 16 April 2012 05:53 (fourteen years ago)

really liked these last two eps of the season--i would not have pegged those 4 in a million years, and cool of them to leave one of the final five out.

still don't really get 'all along the watchtower' as the cue

totally bought the whole trial, p plausible and satisfying. baltar's "real" voice was a good moment, irish (lol) lawyer walking away without the cane was a nice touch.

wtbuck

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 16 April 2012 20:23 (fourteen years ago)

I have been totally slack in watching this the last couple of days. going to catch up tonight and tomorrow evening. Exciting. Wish baltar was was s2 baltar though.

owenf, Monday, 16 April 2012 20:28 (fourteen years ago)

still don't really get 'all along the watchtower' as the cue

bites tongue

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 16 April 2012 20:29 (fourteen years ago)

I think anyone who likes the series as a whole probably avoids talking about that in conversation

..except for maybe some ultrafan who has lyrics airbrushed on the back of a t-shirt next to portraits of the final five or whatever

mh, Monday, 16 April 2012 20:34 (fourteen years ago)

I know s10cki disagrees but the Watchtower inclusion is the shark-jumping moment of the series imho

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 16 April 2012 20:39 (fourteen years ago)

yeah i mean the way it was revealed was cool, but when you realize what it actually is you're like '............................................'

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 16 April 2012 20:45 (fourteen years ago)

can't believe it took me all of 30 minutes to grab s4, the Bay is exceedingly fast

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 16 April 2012 20:47 (fourteen years ago)

still don't really get 'all along the watchtower' as the cue

I've seen the whole series and still don't get the cue. I'm not one to point out shark-jumping moments in shows, but ...

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 16 April 2012 20:50 (fourteen years ago)

that whole reveal sequence was pretty awes imo

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Monday, 16 April 2012 20:51 (fourteen years ago)

SPOILERS

Bob Dylan is the 5th Cylon

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 16 April 2012 20:51 (fourteen years ago)

hahah

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 16 April 2012 20:52 (fourteen years ago)

I caught up with viewing by the time they started the whole final five reveal thing, I think. It'll be interesting to see how hoos and owen react

mh, Monday, 16 April 2012 20:52 (fourteen years ago)

I mean, for the rest, obviously we know about this part

mh, Monday, 16 April 2012 20:52 (fourteen years ago)

The sky ain't yellow, it's Cylon.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 16 April 2012 20:57 (fourteen years ago)

ahaha

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 16 April 2012 21:13 (fourteen years ago)

totally have 1 crush on racetrack btw

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 16 April 2012 22:11 (fourteen years ago)

just finished S3. for a couple days i was like "ugh can this thread just catch up to maelstrom so i can talk about starbuck" and then y'all are talking about revealing four cylons and i'm liek wtf.

moore or whatever (already forgotten the wiki entry) said that, um, a colonies musician also wrote all along the watchtower and they were singing that. um. i don't think he's really internalized how much of a stretch that is. when i put it together, i assumed that it meant the cylons were somehow aware of earth and its (pop) culture, which would've been a lot more interesting than "we forgot to write some dummy lyrics whoops"

JIM THOMETHEUS (zachlyon), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 08:09 (fourteen years ago)

would totally watch "law & order: colonial fleet" just for the apollo/romo chemistry

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 09:59 (fourteen years ago)

I will hold my comments on the use of All Along the Watchtower in the show until later, but I will say now that I really hate the version of the song that they use in the show. It's so cheesy. Bear McCreary's brother sings it and his voice and delivery reminds me of every bad open mic wannabe singer songwriter ever.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 12:36 (fourteen years ago)

Where are you now? Have you watched The Hub yet? That's my favorite episode.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 12:45 (fourteen years ago)

hoos, I haven't seen it, but apparently Jamie Bamber was on Law & Order UK! unfortunately no romo :/

mh, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:39 (fourteen years ago)


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