James Van Der Beek as Himself - Apartment 23 on ABC

yeah it's no tim & eric huh

The Creek was pretty "influential"

― Number None, Wednesday, April 11, 2012 5:46 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

...on a lot of CW shows that nobody on ILX watches

also kryyyyysten ritter has a good agent, i've seen puff pieces on her everywhere, including the NYT.

yea this was p disappointing & not sure i see much promise to it

i have no idea how they are going to milk 6 episodes out of this, let alone a whole season, especially when p much the entire conceit of the show gets blown in the pilot. this kinda felt like a case of, "oh shit our wild ass pitch actually got picked up, what the fuck are we going to do now?"

it's kind of a good thing if a sitcom doesn't map out the formula for every future episode with its pilot imo

i guess i'd be more kind if i didn't find 75% of the jokes terrible (to be fair, the other 25% were hilarious). these meta Dawson jokes weren't really that funny the first time Kevin Smith used them in Jay & Silent Bob and much less so in 2012.

gonna watch this tonight. it only has to be better than new girl.

its definitely not.

By virtue of not featuring Zooey Deschanel, it's better than The New Girl at the very LEAST.

def not remotely as good as New Girl

Zooey has better delivery and comedic timing than every single person on Apt. 23 except for maaaaybe Ritter.

i guess i'd be more kind if i didn't find 75% of the jokes terrible (to be fair, the other 25% were hilarious). these meta Dawson jokes weren't really that funny the first time Kevin Smith used them in Jay & Silent Bob and much less so in 2012.

― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, April 11, 2012 11:09 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark

haha this show should have a 'based on character created by Kevin Smith' credit

lol

these network shows that can't get away with edgy titles with swear words in them but keep desperately hanging onto half-assed versions of them like "bleep my dad says" are just sad imo. they should've just called this show Apartment 23, which is probably what it'll get shortened to if it ever survives two seasons.

It was originally Don't Trust the Bitch in Apartment 23, then Apartment 23, then Don't Trust the B---- in Apartment 23.

The pilot of this may be a better single episode than the last episode of New Girl. New Girl is easily the better show overall though.

i'm aware, jaymc.

did anyone point out that bryan cranston was actually in a commercial for this, saying something about wanting to murder kristen ritter

am watching all the family-themed ABC sitcoms on the lead-up. haven't watched a sitcom other than 30 rock or the office in years. they're fun. and weird.

suburgatory girl looks a bit like emma stone

yeah "Suburgatory" is good. i take "Modern Family" for granted but it's still pretty decent.

i'm aware, jaymc.

Sorry, your post read like you came up with the idea for the truncated title.

yeah it's no tim & eric huh

It totally wasn't! Disappointing.

well i mean, it was obviously just Apartment 23 back when this thread was started

am watching all the family-themed ABC sitcoms on the lead-up. haven't watched a sitcom other than 30 rock or the office in years. they're fun. and weird.

Yeah, like I said over in the ABC Tuesday night thread, I don't particularly care for any of the shows much (except for Happy Endings, which it's a shame you missed), but I think the majority of the actors on the shows are really decent comedic actors, and everyone seems to be having a good time. Let the kids have their fun and their laughs, eh? Why not!

yeah a lot of these shows are definitely a triumph of casting over material

yeah, suburgatory was clearly getting by on charm, but i was into it. would watch again.

not sure what to make of modern family. it's good, but seems like something you'd have to get the hang of. lot of implied relationship history.

did anyone point out that bryan cranston was actually in a commercial for this, saying something about wanting to murder kristen ritter

― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, April 11, 2012 10:58 PM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

are you not putting the y in her name like for political reasons or what

The Rittery regime is responsible for some pretty heinous atrocities in Central America, so yeah

i misspelled it

oh no i approve believe me

show was pretty ok. hard to discern the good/bad through the cute, but i liked van der beek, liked the cheerfully sleazy goings-on. much better than that one episode of new girl i watched yesterday. no idea whether i'll ever watch any of these shows again.

are you not putting the y in her name like for political reasons or what

― goole, Wednesday, April 11, 2012 11:30 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i put enough y's in her name above to make up for any omissions below

I will continue to watch this as it was fine; actually it was reminiscent of my reaction to Happy Endings before they hit their stride, so if this finds a groove I think it will kill

I also think people are completely misreading the thesis of the show if they think the pilot blows it; a show about a woman torturing her stupid roommate would get very tired very quickly, whereas a show where the "mean girl" learns how to relate to another woman while the wide-eyed innocent shows she isn't as wide-eyed or innocent as she appears may not be "zomg ORIGINAL" but it at least has someplace to go where you aren't automatically cast in the position of despising one of the leads for either their rampant, unrelenting meanness or their mind-boggling, irritating stupidity.

yeah totally

i guess i'd be more kind if i didn't find 75% of the jokes terrible (to be fair, the other 25% were hilarious).

I have no intention of plugging the antenna back in and watching this, but that ratio is a good one for every sitcom ever that's below the dozen or so classics.

in a lot of ways it falls flat but there's a definite kernel of something unique and promising in there and now and again there'll be a great line out of nowhere like "anyone wanna get weird and play Mario Kart?"

i'll keep giving this a chance, Ritter is good enough to potentially carry it, but hopefully the other girl has more going on character-wise. i was not as into the van der beek stuff

so.

zzz

yup

I thought ep 2 was much funnier than ep 1

I'm surprised how much I dug this, both episodes

Didn't like last night's episode at all. Ritter was too hateable, other girl was too manic. Van Der Beek's bits with Kiernan Shipka were funny, though...especially the tag at the end.

Ritter's tightrope walk of hateable/relatable(/smashable) is the show's greatest strength imo

"Clear my schedule!"
"It's been clear for weeks."

the foster child thing felt very overdone to me, as a gag. also lol overachieving neurotic woman tries to do too much and flips out also a bit too played.

1st ep >> 2nd ep >>>>>>>>>>>>> 3rd ep

That's not a good trajectory imo.

yeah i mean it's always been kinda doomed tbh, i'm just getting whatever enjoyment i can out of the ride. still mystified that this show has its own thread.

i am mystified that you are mystified.