James Van Der Beek as Himself - Apartment 23 on ABC

oh prob not. either way i will watch it for ritter. just the whole meta van der beek thing is a rmde red flag for me.

in the pilot he's mostly there to make himself look like a tool

djp: did you watch ep 2? that's the one where i made the ted connection -- only once or twice, i'll grant, but still...

yeah i have the sense that the vdb thing is really just him trying to pull a nph and go against type to revive a career.

haven't watched ep2 yet

that's kinda what i mean, celebs playing themselves unflatteringly is really really played out as a comedy device (xpost)

tbh the portrayal isn't 100% unflattering (shocker) but the degree of self-absorption given what he's been doing lately is kind of hilarious, esp. as a netizen who saw his series of anigifs and someone who cracked up at his blockbuster appearance in a Ke$ha video

it will probably build them a big viewership (at least for a while) w/ all the ppl who grew up with dawson. and it's a decent gag at first. i just have serious doubts about their ability to turn him into something that's not just one-note.

the weird thing about the van der beek premise is that dawsons creek was never that popular a show

i don't think its so much Dawson's Creek that drives the premise, as much as "lol james van der beek" and him being a B-level actor already unafraid to make fun of himself

it's easier to be willing to make fun of yourself when that's the only part you can get

The Creek was pretty "influential"

yeah i dont know if its because i was in highschool/college the same years as dawson's creek but i remember it being huge

miss u boo

http://i.imgur.com/4PS6D.jpg

haven't watched this show yet but i'll probably watch it tonight if its got krysten ritter looking hot is this what it is y/n

Not sold after watching the first two eps. (Pilot was kind of funny.) It's better than 2 Broke Girls but what isn't? I don't think the premise has much lasting power in it. There really doesn't seem to be much for June in this 'relationship'. I never watched Dawson's Creek, mind, so maybe I'm missing something?

xpost: y

in a lot of ways it falls flat but there's a definite kernel of something unique and promising in there and now and again there'll be a great line out of nowhere like "anyone wanna get weird and play Mario Kart?"

network television is kind of horrible

yeah it's no tim & eric huh

The Creek was pretty "influential"

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...on a lot of CW shows that nobody on ILX watches

also kryyyyysten ritter has a good agent, i've seen puff pieces on her everywhere, including the NYT.

yea this was p disappointing & not sure i see much promise to it

i have no idea how they are going to milk 6 episodes out of this, let alone a whole season, especially when p much the entire conceit of the show gets blown in the pilot. this kinda felt like a case of, "oh shit our wild ass pitch actually got picked up, what the fuck are we going to do now?"

it's kind of a good thing if a sitcom doesn't map out the formula for every future episode with its pilot imo

i guess i'd be more kind if i didn't find 75% of the jokes terrible (to be fair, the other 25% were hilarious). these meta Dawson jokes weren't really that funny the first time Kevin Smith used them in Jay & Silent Bob and much less so in 2012.

gonna watch this tonight. it only has to be better than new girl.

its definitely not.

By virtue of not featuring Zooey Deschanel, it's better than The New Girl at the very LEAST.

def not remotely as good as New Girl

Zooey has better delivery and comedic timing than every single person on Apt. 23 except for maaaaybe Ritter.

i guess i'd be more kind if i didn't find 75% of the jokes terrible (to be fair, the other 25% were hilarious). these meta Dawson jokes weren't really that funny the first time Kevin Smith used them in Jay & Silent Bob and much less so in 2012.

― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, April 11, 2012 11:09 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark

haha this show should have a 'based on character created by Kevin Smith' credit

lol

these network shows that can't get away with edgy titles with swear words in them but keep desperately hanging onto half-assed versions of them like "bleep my dad says" are just sad imo. they should've just called this show Apartment 23, which is probably what it'll get shortened to if it ever survives two seasons.

It was originally Don't Trust the Bitch in Apartment 23, then Apartment 23, then Don't Trust the B---- in Apartment 23.

The pilot of this may be a better single episode than the last episode of New Girl. New Girl is easily the better show overall though.

i'm aware, jaymc.

did anyone point out that bryan cranston was actually in a commercial for this, saying something about wanting to murder kristen ritter

am watching all the family-themed ABC sitcoms on the lead-up. haven't watched a sitcom other than 30 rock or the office in years. they're fun. and weird.

suburgatory girl looks a bit like emma stone

yeah "Suburgatory" is good. i take "Modern Family" for granted but it's still pretty decent.

i'm aware, jaymc.

Sorry, your post read like you came up with the idea for the truncated title.

yeah it's no tim & eric huh

It totally wasn't! Disappointing.

well i mean, it was obviously just Apartment 23 back when this thread was started

am watching all the family-themed ABC sitcoms on the lead-up. haven't watched a sitcom other than 30 rock or the office in years. they're fun. and weird.

Yeah, like I said over in the ABC Tuesday night thread, I don't particularly care for any of the shows much (except for Happy Endings, which it's a shame you missed), but I think the majority of the actors on the shows are really decent comedic actors, and everyone seems to be having a good time. Let the kids have their fun and their laughs, eh? Why not!

yeah a lot of these shows are definitely a triumph of casting over material

yeah, suburgatory was clearly getting by on charm, but i was into it. would watch again.

not sure what to make of modern family. it's good, but seems like something you'd have to get the hang of. lot of implied relationship history.

did anyone point out that bryan cranston was actually in a commercial for this, saying something about wanting to murder kristen ritter

― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, April 11, 2012 10:58 PM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

are you not putting the y in her name like for political reasons or what

The Rittery regime is responsible for some pretty heinous atrocities in Central America, so yeah

i misspelled it

oh no i approve believe me

y was there an ep of this sponsored by ppl magazine

show has been pretty funny lately, feel like it's hitting its stride

thanksgiving episode really delivered. they're walking a line between either humanizing ritter too much or just making her increasingly terrible (or just leaving her be and having the character end up one-note), but for now they're pulling it off. it's like if you built a whole show around kramer subplots.

well, bcz Quell doesnt remember it

So _Vamps_ is a really good film, and Ritter is perfect for it.

"You from Queens"

in other news, both this and happy endings seem like their ratings are pretty bad and they could be cancelled.

yeah they're both in burn-off mode, i think off the schedule by march

nothing says faith in a sitcom like a sunday night at 10pm slot

On the bright side, two new eps per week!*

*I have to look for a bright side.

well, its unofficially officially a wrap:

https://twitter.com/vanderjames/status/293824551354236928

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/17/apartment-23-final-episodes-online_n_3106468.html

man i loved thsi show

hulu has these up now.

looking at the previews of the 2013 season, I feel like this show was the far end of a pendulum swing now going back towards "mainstream" banality

network execs realized that they actually aired a show about self-superior urbanites interacting with a WB star and were like OMG FAMILIES FAMILIES FAMILIES

haha