makes you think
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 7 April 2012 12:52 (fourteen years ago)
guess he figured it worked through osmosis rather than a series of bullet points.
― Clay, Saturday, 7 April 2012 13:00 (fourteen years ago)
I really wish I had remained ignorant of takimag, it is one of the most depressing things I've seen in a long time.
― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Saturday, 7 April 2012 13:32 (fourteen years ago)
Wow this is really bad. Did somebody read this before publishing it?
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 7 April 2012 14:01 (fourteen years ago)
I'm on page 2 now and it's like, each point is blowing my mind more than the last one. What century is this bigot living in?
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 7 April 2012 14:02 (fourteen years ago)
So, I'm not reading this thing. Ever.
However, has everyone who has read it considered that it could be poorly-done satire? It wouldn't make it any less offensive but it would explain how it got published in the first place.
― God, Music and Romeo and Juliet (DJP), Saturday, 7 April 2012 14:15 (fourteen years ago)
I doubt that it was, but I have no doubt derb will try to spin it that way after the fact
― arsenio and old ma$e (m bison), Saturday, 7 April 2012 14:16 (fourteen years ago)
"see where's the outrage when black parents do this, I'm rly making u think with this good ass satire" *every decent person throws rocks at him when in an appropriate throwing distance*
― arsenio and old ma$e (m bison), Saturday, 7 April 2012 14:18 (fourteen years ago)
Derbyshire had an uncredited role in Meng long guojiang (released in the West as Way of the Dragon and Return of the Dragon), a 1972 martial arts film starring Bruce Lee. Of landing the part, Derbyshire says: "The casting director had obviously just trawled around the low-class guesthouses for unemployed foreigners of a sufficiently thuggish appearance."
Please tell me there is footage of Bruce Lee beating the living shit out of this guy.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 7 April 2012 14:19 (fourteen years ago)
john derbyshire is not known for his humor
― goole, Saturday, 7 April 2012 14:24 (fourteen years ago)
there is something about the fully-delighted-with-itself tone of the piece that almost does read as satire, but given what i know of derbyshire and takimag, i can't believe it. also its underlying purpose is to cite a lot of pseudoscientific bullshit about the inferiority of black people, and there's every reason to believe that that's an article of faith for contributors to takimag.
― horseshoe, Saturday, 7 April 2012 14:52 (fourteen years ago)
i need to punch something
― horseshoe, Saturday, 7 April 2012 14:54 (fourteen years ago)
the quintessential taki episode was when he referred to himself as a soi-disant antisemite, thinking that it meant 'so-called'
― The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 7 April 2012 15:01 (fourteen years ago)
hahahaaaa
― goole, Saturday, 7 April 2012 15:09 (fourteen years ago)
anyway, derbyshire has been saying stuff nearly identical to this for years. this is not out of character and it's not satire.
"it's satire and that was my point" is almost certainly going to be his deal on Monday - he'll claim he was "pointing out" that talking to one's black children about how not to aggravate white cops lest they shoot you is "just as racist" as telling your white children to fear all black people.
― same old song and placenta (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 7 April 2012 15:46 (fourteen years ago)
It's been obvious for years that NRO tolerates Derbyshire's iconoclasm and atheism because he hates everything.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 7 April 2012 15:48 (fourteen years ago)
i wonder if nat'l review will fire him now. but why would they? they know what he is and they can't be surprised or offended, if they've never been before. they've been paying money for years and years to employ a writer whose job is to make racist arguments.
― seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Saturday, 7 April 2012 15:56 (fourteen years ago)
i cant help but think about how Takimag is probably popping champagne in their office for all he traffic they're getting
― #yolo contendere (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 7 April 2012 18:33 (fourteen years ago)
god i know everything's the worst
― horseshoe, Saturday, 7 April 2012 18:34 (fourteen years ago)
Yet another reason why I'm not reading that thing
― God, Music and Romeo and Juliet (DJP), Saturday, 7 April 2012 18:36 (fourteen years ago)
CLICK NOTHING DAY
― Fook Lee (Matt P), Saturday, 7 April 2012 18:45 (fourteen years ago)
"derb" is the one entree into the conservative world that the rest of NRO is still too washington-republican-genteel to touch. (other of their writers function similarly for different sub-sets i guess) when seriously hard-right people say crazy shit about the "decadent reign of centrist rich lowry" or w/e they aren't kidding, or wrong really
― goole, Saturday, 7 April 2012 22:14 (fourteen years ago)
I think National Review just fired that tool.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 8 April 2012 13:30 (fourteen years ago)
http://takimag.com/article/10_hatefacts_for_those_who_hate_facts_gavin_mcinnes/page_2#axzz1rSOEkZ00
^#5
― fka snush (remy bean), Sunday, 8 April 2012 14:03 (fourteen years ago)
I am a racist and a homophobe -- but a mild one.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 8 April 2012 14:21 (fourteen years ago)
National Run Off
― #yolo contendere (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 8 April 2012 14:27 (fourteen years ago)
Alfred, that post is incredible. I love the weird anti-logic of it, wherein benefit of the doubt can be invoked to justify the worst, least likely option, beginning with the presumption/concession of homophobia and racism then working its way up from there. It's hard to know where to begin. But I like this one:
I grew up in England where that level of antisemitism was pretty well universal. It was perfectly harmless.
To say the least of it, male homosexuality is veryunhealthy–much more so than, for example, cigarette smoking.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 8 April 2012 14:41 (fourteen years ago)
"B-b-but Kingsley Amis did it!"
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 8 April 2012 14:45 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah this guy's just full of shit.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 8 April 2012 15:02 (fourteen years ago)
am I the only one who isn't able to see any of these takimag articles? not that I'm complaining.
― gimme prizza (crüt), Sunday, 8 April 2012 16:21 (fourteen years ago)
I think the site can't handle the uptick in web traffic. consider yourself lucky
― dayo, Sunday, 8 April 2012 16:23 (fourteen years ago)
To take an actual example from the world of race: I have spent most of mylife mixing with Chinese people. It seems obvious to me that Chinese peopleare, on average, a bit smarter than white Europeans.
Do these people ever stop to wonder why, say, the President and all the Fortune 500 CEOs aren't Chinese?
― Frank Youngenstein (Phil D.), Sunday, 8 April 2012 16:25 (fourteen years ago)
world of race
― gimme prizza (crüt), Sunday, 8 April 2012 16:26 (fourteen years ago)
I think NRO kept and appreciated Derbyshire as a kind of clever and fearless tenured professor.
― the hairy office thing (Eazy), Sunday, 8 April 2012 16:35 (fourteen years ago)
Me neither. I like to think racism broke the link.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 8 April 2012 16:36 (fourteen years ago)
derb finally gets canned, charles murray is an intellectual demigod. #interesting
― goole, Sunday, 8 April 2012 16:37 (fourteen years ago)
There's no reason to read them. They don't have anything to do with TM/GZ other than loosely trying to contextualize bigoted ranting, and even failing miserably at that.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 8 April 2012 16:52 (fourteen years ago)
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2012/04/09/us/ap-us-neighborhood-watch-death.html
― recent thug (k3vin k.), Monday, 9 April 2012 16:46 (fourteen years ago)
can someone who understands the law better than me explain what not taking this to a grand jury means in real world justice terms?
― wrapped sausage stylus (forksclovetofu), Monday, 9 April 2012 17:53 (fourteen years ago)
no murder charge
― the late great, Monday, 9 April 2012 17:59 (fourteen years ago)
Special Prosecutor Corey says her decision to skip the grand jury shouldn't be considered a factor in determining whether charges will be filed against George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch volunteer who has admitted to fatally shooting the unarmed Martin.
That means the decision now rests solely with Corey.
― Disco Bob & MC Criminal (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 9 April 2012 18:03 (fourteen years ago)
Allen Park — The Michigan Department of Transportation is working with police to determine who hacked into a road sign and posted a racial slur along a freeway seen early Monday morning.The portable electronic sign contained a reference to Trayvon Martin, a 17-year-old African-American who died Feb. 26 in Sanford, Fla., after being shot by a neighborhood watch volunteer.
The portable electronic sign contained a reference to Trayvon Martin, a 17-year-old African-American who died Feb. 26 in Sanford, Fla., after being shot by a neighborhood watch volunteer.
http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20120409/METRO01/204090381/Allen-Park-road-sign-hacked-show-racial-slur-against-Trayvon-Martin
― 1986 tallest hair contest (Z S), Monday, 9 April 2012 20:06 (fourteen years ago)
wtf this country
― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 9 April 2012 20:23 (fourteen years ago)
That was so disgusting to me.
― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Monday, 9 April 2012 20:25 (fourteen years ago)
On a more positive note, I was having lunch today at the local lol food court, and at the next table were two old white guys, both over 60. I heard them start discussing the case and braced myself, and to my surprise they were both like, "Yeah, if I was out walking and somebody was following me around in a car, I'd probably jump him too. And the police never took this guy to the hospital for a supposed broken nose?" etc., etc. Kinda refreshing.
― Frank Youngenstein (Phil D.), Monday, 9 April 2012 20:26 (fourteen years ago)
i don't even understand what sort of thought process or lack thereof goes on with whoever hacked that sign
― wrapped sausage stylus (forksclovetofu), Monday, 9 April 2012 20:57 (fourteen years ago)
see what happens when you stereotype people, Phil
― Estimate the percent chance that a whale has ever been to the moon? (frogbs), Monday, 9 April 2012 21:00 (fourteen years ago)
sort of laughed at this:
"This sort of thing pops up every construction season, but usually the messages are relatively harmless and quirky references to zombies and things like that," Morosi said.
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 9 April 2012 21:04 (fourteen years ago)
agree that it this is gross & abhorrent but it's prob little more than baseline hax0r opportunism + sensationalism + good ol fashioned racism
― i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Monday, 9 April 2012 21:05 (fourteen years ago)