Lamp people actually play block constructed where you live?
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 14:54 (twelve years ago) link
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new preview card
sure have come a long way since the days of Seraph. this thing is insane.
― Estimate the percent chance that a whale has ever been to the moon? (frogbs), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 14:57 (twelve years ago) link
they already made a 'you win' card didn't you? eventually they'll just make it cost 2 blue mana or something
― iatee, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 15:04 (twelve years ago) link
it's not even particularly playable in constructed though. a lot of the best removal exiles or -X/-Xes things, both of which get around indestructible. you can bounce it too
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 15:10 (twelve years ago) link
this is what a big angel with an ability that actually wins you the game looks like: http://magiccards.info/zen/en/13.html
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 15:13 (twelve years ago) link
yeah compared to Plat Angel and Iona it's pretty tame. but we're in the era of Unburial Rites now. if Iona and Unburial Rites were legal at the same time that would warp the format.
― Estimate the percent chance that a whale has ever been to the moon? (frogbs), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 15:17 (twelve years ago) link
Iona is AMAZING. I played an EDH deck with her once and basically shut down the game once she came out.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 15:48 (twelve years ago) link
man... i just know i could never go down to the game shop w me shitty old decks and play this game. things done changed.
― one dis leads to another (ian), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 16:00 (twelve years ago) link
Haha unburial rites was my first thought my second was that she protects virtue and orb from most removal
idk I think shell see some play in W/x tokens
― Lamp, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 16:22 (twelve years ago) link
yeah it is amusing to look at the first four or so sets. because you think about Legends and Arabian Nights and you think about Library, Mana Drain, Nether Void, Tabernacle, Mirror Universe, all these insane Type 1 cards, then you look at the rest of the set and it's filled with stuff like this:
http://www.magicdeckvortex.com/cardpics/GOLD/lord_magnus.jpg
I remember going through the Arabian Nights spoiler list and realizing that there's really only ONE card in the entire set that they would print today, and it's Juzam Djinn.
― Estimate the percent chance that a whale has ever been to the moon? (frogbs), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 16:25 (twelve years ago) link
guess that image didnt take. this is your typical Legends card:http://static.tappedout.net/mtg-cards/legends/lord-magnus_medium.jpg
― Estimate the percent chance that a whale has ever been to the moon? (frogbs), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 16:26 (twelve years ago) link
there is something great about the innocence of it all
― iatee, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 16:26 (twelve years ago) link
they didn't know the cards sucked! they really had no idea how badly the cards sucked
― iatee, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 16:27 (twelve years ago) link
alpha has so many garbage rares but its practically a different game so it's sorta pointless to compare
― Lamp, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 16:31 (twelve years ago) link
basalt monolith.
― one dis leads to another (ian), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 16:32 (twelve years ago) link
o.g. magic >>>>>> numagic fuiud
― one dis leads to another (ian), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 16:33 (twelve years ago) link
for sure
― iatee, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 16:34 (twelve years ago) link
ian do you wanna play irl sometime? I have zero cards. but I sorta want to go to this: http://www.theawl.com/2012/02/midtowns-magic-gathering
― iatee, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 16:35 (twelve years ago) link
http://princessleia.com/images/MyImages/Magic/palladia-morsChronicles.jpg
what is "vigilance"?
― one dis leads to another (ian), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 16:36 (twelve years ago) link
just a new name for the serra angel ability
― iatee, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 16:37 (twelve years ago) link
i would go play in the magic midtown meetup or w/e. it seems okay. monday is a good day for me, at the moment, because i don't work late.i have a few decks, we could share. there is a green/white and a black/blue and maybe a red/green as well..
― one dis leads to another (ian), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 16:39 (twelve years ago) link
but but but that's what made the serra angel so special.
all pretty much using cards from around revised/fourth edition/weatherlight era.
― one dis leads to another (ian), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 16:40 (twelve years ago) link
sorri 'm not maing ayny sense.
if i still have any dual lands not in decks i think i am going to trade them to the game store for Diplomacy or Settlers of Catan or something.
― one dis leads to another (ian), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 16:41 (twelve years ago) link
that was the golden age for me too
wanna go next week?
― iatee, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 16:42 (twelve years ago) link
i like the look of the cards and general vibe of really old magic esp like arabian nights - antiquities and a/b/u but i didnt play magic in 93 and i dont really have the money to spend on those cards so
it was just a one-off as far as i know but my friends and i play strictly block cuz we all p much stared playing/playing again w/innistrad
― Lamp, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 16:47 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.coolstuffinc.com/images/Products/mtg%20art/Fourth/Meekstone.jpg
http://www.coolstuffinc.com/images/Products/mtg%20art/Fallen%20Empires/Icatian%20Moneychanger1.jpg
http://static.starcitygames.com/sales/cardscans/MAGBET/demonic_attorney.jpg
card art used to be better too..
― one dis leads to another (ian), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 16:47 (twelve years ago) link
iatee, i will try for next week! i do not know what time? and i can't commit 100% because i'm starting a new part time gig that day and am not sure what time it finishes.
― one dis leads to another (ian), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 16:48 (twelve years ago) link
that link doesn't say, it seems so informal that there might not be a set time? I get off at 5 in midtown but can hang around til whenever.
― iatee, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 16:49 (twelve years ago) link
Inspired by this thread/the equiv thread in the sandbox, I found some local bars here that have weekly drafts and went along to a couple of them after getting some practice in (also, reading about a decade's worth of Mark Rosewater columns on design, heh) - was pretty easy to slip back into (sets seem pretty draft-friendly), but quite a different game to when I stopped playing (Tempest-y?).One of the nights they ran a "Chaos draft" using a couple of boosters from nearly every set back to The Dark & Homelands - they make Legends/Arabian Nights look pretty powerful, heh. Lot of people seem to play EDH/Commander, but I don't think I could easily rustle up a deck.
― etc, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 16:49 (twelve years ago) link
chaos draft sounds rad, wouldn't that be super expensive tho
― iatee, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 16:50 (twelve years ago) link
revised and later packs are actually p cheap because there are so many unplayable rares
― Lamp, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 16:55 (twelve years ago) link
http://s.ecrater.com/stores/64306/4a7b4803ae949_64306b.jpg
Don't think there's any equiv to the Stasis artwork these days. Used to love all the Tennyson/Shakespeare/Poe/etc quotes on Legends-era cards, too.
http://i.backpackgnome.com/11858172334dbcf0ae334519.67025441.jpg
xpost It was 15 euro to enter IIRC (as opposed to 10 for the normal draft) - the guy who organises the weekly events has heaps of boosters lying around apparently and does something like this once a year; I don't think there was anything "valuable" like Alliances/Revised/Antiquities involved. They also had a few packs of Renaissance in Italian, which got confusing pretty fast.
― etc, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 16:56 (twelve years ago) link
That's what makes them so entertaining to look at! Especially the legends, their abilities/mana cost/power and toughness wouldn't coorelate at all. It would all seem so random. There would be 2/3 creatures with First Strike, where it's like, what sense does it make to have a first striker with a higher toughness than power? Just things that made no mechanical sense at all. I agree that's there's something endearing about it all! (especially in the art)
― Estimate the percent chance that a whale has ever been to the moon? (frogbs), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 17:05 (twelve years ago) link
haha 2/3 first strike is p rad
i want to build a vintage deck out of all the weird enchant land cards in white cuz they are my absolute favorite kind of cards but its funny how little most of them end up doing
frogs are you playing standard at all? what are you playing?
― Lamp, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 17:07 (twelve years ago) link
One of the nights they ran a "Chaos draft" using a couple of boosters from nearly every set back to The Dark & Homelands - they make Legends/Arabian Nights look pretty powerful, heh
We tried this on Netdraft once with the first five expansions. Those sets were clearly NOT made to be drafted. I thought it would be a lot more fun than it wound up being.
― Estimate the percent chance that a whale has ever been to the moon? (frogbs), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 17:08 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah - my local store is running tournaments with a $1k prize pool which is getting people from all over the state. I wound up getting 3rd/4th with a Seance deck - it was one of the most mentally exhausting tournaments I've ever played. Basically the idea is to win with Lab Maniac, but you can also win with Sun Titan/Phantasmal Image. Now I'm working on an Undying/Proliferate/Culling Dias deck, but I'm not sure if I can get it to compete.
― Estimate the percent chance that a whale has ever been to the moon? (frogbs), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 17:13 (twelve years ago) link
haha i saw that seance/lab maniac deck online and was... skeptical
i have a decent undying deck but its not really standard ready, G/r aggro seems p neat tho
― Lamp, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 17:16 (twelve years ago) link
i got 2nd place at a ~60 man tournament last month w/ my birthing pod deck, i think i'm cool with that being the pinnacle of my competitive MTG career
there's a starcitygames open in providence next month that i wanted to play in but then i realized its the exact weekend the new set comes out so i'd have about 24 hours to get any important new cards to update my deck with
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 17:20 (twelve years ago) link
xp - Where'd you see it online? basically I've been trying to use Mirror-Mad Phantasm for a long time and Seance seemed like the perfect fit. I really had no idea what to put in the deck so I'd be interested to see other people's ideas for it. Feel like I got lucky with it though, lots of very close victories and I didn't have to mulligan all day.
G/R aggro definitely is good - Strangleroot Geist and Huntsmaster are so ridiculously powerful. Along with Geralf's Messenger that's three insane "2 for 1" (or more!) creatures that can't be dealt with efficiently at all. Sadly I never pulled a Huntsmaster so G/R is off limits for me. Also they're all insane with Birthing Pod. Pod seems like such an insane card now that "Sacrifice a creature" instead means "put a +1/+1 counter on a creature"
― Estimate the percent chance that a whale has ever been to the moon? (frogbs), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 17:23 (twelve years ago) link
there should be a thread on it on mtgsalvation i think he was using snapcasters and armored skaabs in addition to i think 2xlab maniac and 2xmirror-mad
haha i pulled total garbage from innistrad packs but i got three huntmasters (and a sorin) in the dka packs ive opened and traded two cages and a drogs reaver i pulled for the last garruck i needed so i have a p expensive deck for the cost of like half a box? predator ooze is a p insane card too and the combo of undying + blasphemous act is really powerful esp if you have some flayers out and i did really well in the block tournament but i dont think it has enough power for standard...
― Lamp, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 17:29 (twelve years ago) link
frogbs i was testing a 4-color seance/unburial deck last month, i'll find the list when i get home from work. it was pretty sweet, though maybe a turn too slow to be really competetive
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 17:35 (twelve years ago) link
yeah post the list - mine was just blue/white with some black for Unburial. also Lamp I don't know why you'd want more than one Mirror-Mad - that kills off a lot of the combo potential. you also only need one Lab Maniac. Noxious Revival is a really good card if you're aggressively milling yourself.
the creatures I used were 4 Phantasmal Images, 4 Armored Skaabs, 3 Merfolk Looters, 2 Sun Titans, and 2 Sphinx of Uthuun (really, really, really good in this deck), in addition to the 1 Lab Man and Mirror-Mad. Images and Skaabs really help stall vs. aggro. Ultimately, I lost the way I figured I would - game 3 of the match to go to the finals and I get Nihil Spellbombed 3 times. Not much you can do about that...
― Estimate the percent chance that a whale has ever been to the moon? (frogbs), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 17:45 (twelve years ago) link
undying + blasphemous act is really powerful esp if you have some flayers out
exactly! I am not sure but I think 2 Flayers + 1 Act = 20 damage, b/c each trigger twice? I don't know, but I really like the Flayer anyway.
the keys to that deck (at least the ones I've built) are Culling Dias and Phantasmal Image. Dias turns Young Wolf into a one-mana 2/2 that draws a card. Geist into a 3/2 for GG that draws. It's insane. Image + Undying is also super abusable.
― Estimate the percent chance that a whale has ever been to the moon? (frogbs), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 17:47 (twelve years ago) link
no i was just misremembering - it was also an attempt at a block deck: http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=404870
yeah the flayers trigger each other and you can choose the order in which they come back - you can also pump them with kessig before damage resolves apparently but im kinda shaky on some of the rules so have never attempted it
― Lamp, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 17:50 (twelve years ago) link
Well, that implies you "only" get 15 damage, since that would be one trigger, then two. I don't really know. The whole deck is a rules nightmare. But it's damn fun!
I haven't really thought about block Seance - I mean Sphinx/Looter/Image were so vital to what I had, I would think you'd have to do something else. However, not having to play against Nihil Spellbomb and Surgical Extraction seem like a massive plus!!
― Estimate the percent chance that a whale has ever been to the moon? (frogbs), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 18:00 (twelve years ago) link
uh, i will giant growth my tundra wolves for four, your go.
― one dis leads to another (ian), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 18:04 (twelve years ago) link
haha
― Lamp, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 18:08 (twelve years ago) link
pretty sure you'll get 20 damage because they both see each other upon entry simultaneously. it's kind of like in the valakut decks last year where if you were at 4 mountains and then fetched up 2 with your titan, valakut triggered for both of them
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 18:10 (twelve years ago) link