rolling "Is This Racist?" thread

It's not a phrase Google would have returned a single result for prior to this morning. I can only assume he lost his train of thought and was mixing his points up - "anti-war, big government, negotiate with enemies" - and just mashed it into one thing.

"anti-war" doesn't make sense

right, I think he just realized he wasn't making sense at the worst possible time

i'm from the american south. saying "negotiator" as "nigosheeatuh" is hardly a stretch.
and yeah, what sharivari said. dude is not well known for clarity of speech or thought

i'm with frogs on the this one; santorum has a long history of saying the dumbest possible thing but i really doubt he meant to throw out a racial slur during a campaign rally.

i doubt that he consciously meant to say the n-word, but i'm not certain he didn't just sort of slip into it in the heat of the rhetorical moment, at least in his own mind. like i don't think he got tripped up by the phonetic similarity of one word to the other. he got tripped up by what he was thinking. plus it sounds lot more like "nig" than "neg". the difference isn't in the pronunciation of the 'g', but of the vowel.

plus it sounds lot more like "nig" than "neg"

i'd say "negate" with a "nig". but "negative" with a "neg". "negotiate" can go either way.

fwiw, philly accent (of which i am proud owner), i pronounce 'negotiator' as 'ni-go-shi-ate-er.'

like i pronounce the first syllable of the n-word and the first syllable of negotiator the exact same way

^ negoti-ist

/nɪˈgoʊʃiˌeɪt/

i have no idea what he meant to say and honestly i'd like to think the worst of him (i have hated him for a very long time) so it's very easy for me to believe that he was about to say the n-word. but i thought some intimate info about philly speech patterns might be relevant to the discussion

I kind of feel that when you have so much stuff to throw at Santorum that is true and overt and clear, why try to slam him with something ambiguous?

exactly. let's hoist the dude by his overt bullshit not "i bet he's a secret racist"

hmmm

butI dont get is why he dropped the word midphoneme if he was just trying to say "negotiate"?

because he is an idiot?

I mean, Occam's Razor etc

^

the thing that's funny is, these guys have been pushing so much "secret Muslim!" garbage for so long & have crawled so far down the Look At It Upside Down It's A Pyramid ZOMG Masons!!! tunnel that something like this is sorta perfect. Own medicine imo

dayo srs. q do you speak mandarin or cantonese regularly? wonder if syllabic rules might have you thinking about ~words~ different

meanwhile for Santorum's veep I nominate Michael Richards

― tempestuous alaskan nites! (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, March 30, 2012 11:06 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

not at this point in my life but I did growing up!

I mean I never learned formal rules about pronunciation - I'm just trying to figure out what word santorum was trying to say by running it through my head. I will say that I probably tend to emphasize vowel sounds more than consonant sounds in general though.

i'm ok just assuming he said the slur no matter what because there is a 100% chance he uses it in private regularly, come on now.

the thing that's funny is, these guys have been pushing so much "secret Muslim!" garbage for so long & have crawled so far down the Look At It Upside Down It's A Pyramid ZOMG Masons!!! tunnel that something like this is sorta perfect. Own medicine imo

I can totally get behind this viewpoint

yeah, not so much for me for reasons touched on in the batshit right-wing cartoon thread:

He rolls out another classic in his defence of the Sandra Fluke cartoon:
it struck me as deliciously ironic that many of the tolerant, compassionate liberals who took issue with my supposedly portraying Miss Fluke as a “slut” and “prostitute”, and with my lack of civility, did so by calling me every vulgar name in the book and making death threats against me
― And I have been called "The Appetite" (DL), Thursday, March 29, 2012 8:09 AM (Yesterday)

this strain of 'you're no better than me' rhetoric is so flaccid and lazy and gross, the worst type of trolling imho
― i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Thursday, March 29, 2012 4:00 PM (Yesterday)

that argument has nothing to do with the "what goes around comes around" point aero is making...?

"serves you right" is a cousin to "you're no better than me" imo

one is "allowing sexism when you don't like your opponent"; it's loathsome. the other is like some guy at a party sells you .5 g & it turns out to be talcum powder but then you get to sell it back to him at a profit + he dies so fuck that guy

damn, you roll hard like that huh

um... yeah i don't know. i'm kinda with forks on this one, it's not worth it

that's fine, more schadenfreude for the rest of us

extraordinary claims of loathesome stupidity demand extraordinary proof.

it's rick santorum

qed isnt that enough?

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lrzjj4pBeL1qg5h33o1_500.gif

gonna say not racist

idgi

never really played goldeneye either.

the joke is his haircut has a weird line in the front

it's really more of an arc than a line

black friend tells me black ppl love making fun of other black ppl's hairlines, so prob not racist

So Black:Ninetendo Cartridge=White:Pudding Bowl

I'll tell you what I was tempted to add to this thread earlier today. I give The Onion a lot of leeway in their satire due to their track record in being funny, but the ebonics used in this article would have definitely been unacceptable, say Jeff Foxworthy had tried it.

it's not just the ebonics in that article that's suspect

I mean, I've been making the haha weed's in ounces, coke's in grams joaks for years, but yeah, you're right too.

Tip of the iceberg starts with the ebonics.

that could basically be straight off some right-wing humor site

does this thread have anything to do w/ this http://yoisthisracist.com

no, that popped up way later

but that site is "the boss"

that Onion article was better in its original form of Ali G interviewing Sir Rhodes Boyson

i made the mistake of watching a few minutes of tosh.0 last night and whoa i was not prepared for the sheer number of cheap race jokes, wow i am naive about 'comedy' i guess huh

hey guys i cant figure out which thread to discuss my new favorite tv show so might as well do it here:

http://www.trutv.com/shows/the-wieners-circle/index.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzXP8h_KHCA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX71xxK1b4k

This American Life took a different approach to documenting this world famous hot dog stand a few years back:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo1LPf9mnyU

the wiener's circle has been making chicagoans uncomfortable for years

yes but now it has a tv show

Onion just lost a whole mess of their best writers in unceremoniously moving the whole show to Chicago, so...

how do you perform a ceremonious move? like a parade march to chicago?

That's how we moved here.

You do it by not saying "hi, we're moving to Chicago in a couple of weeks. You're doing it too or you're fired."

that is a pretty dick move, yes.