Best Werner Herzog Film

I loved both of those, but I found the Leonard Cohen songs in Fata Morgana extremely distracting. The Third Ear Band song was good, though. I've probably said that before.

Also I didn't realize it, but I guess Milva is famous -- http://www.youtube.com/artist/Milva

watching 'fata morgana' was the 1st time i ever really "got" the appeal of leonard cohen

The Third Ear Band song was good, though.

... and Blind Faith too

my son, my son what have ye done isn't very good

I liked it a lot, more than Rescue Dawn or Bad Lt. The first half-hour had me discouraged but it built something powerful.

was listening to the 'heart of glass' audio commentary, love this

under hypnosis imagination functions very well. i tested it by having people under hypnosis and i would ask them to write a poem because there is something like poetic language in all of us and of course it wouldn't function if i asked you 'you are shakespeare write me a sonnet' it wouldn't function, it depends on the quality of suggestion so i told the people under hypnosis this 'you are on a foreign island, the first one who sets his foot now on this island for centuries and it's overgrown with uh jungleous butterflies strange birds singing and you are walking through the jungle and you come across a gigantic cliff and upon closer inspection this entire cliff this entire escarpment is made of pure emerald and a holy monk hundreds of years ago spent his entire life with a chisel and a hammer to scratch a poem into the wall of that because it's like diamond and it took him all his life to engrave only three lines of a poem' and i said please open your eyes and you will see it you will be the first one to see it and you will read it to me

ha ha ha

a finer human could not have been produced by science
i never listen to the commentary but i appreciate that someone does and then transcribes it for my enjoyment

how's the film, btw? i've never seen, & have that ass-backwards impulse to read this regardless: http://www.ipgbook.com/every-night-the-trees-disappear-products-9781569766071.php

amazing landscapes, popol vuh, entertaining, hyno-induced nonsequiturs, i couldnt ask for much more tbh

uh that should read *hypno*-induced

ha. thanks. i've seen herzog's films in a really skewed order, i still have a bunch of the big guns to see.

the book looks good, fwiw

Not his best movie but sdtk is top 3 PV albums imo.

later in the commentary he also said 'i like to use actors who know how to milk cows'

'into the abyss' is on netflix streaming now

into the abyss was some really sad stuff, great film. it made me think about having nightmares where you've committed a crime or something, just the root ugliness at the heart of the state and the serious criminal.

It was really sad. I don't know if I could watch that one again.
I just watched Invincible for the first time last night, and it was pretty good but the Zimmer soundtrack was a bit syrupy for me.

Invincible was one of the first movies I watched with Je55e.

http://futurestates.tv/episodes/plastic-bag

xpost Zimmer with Herzog is such a weird idea. And mini-Zimmer Klaus Badelt did most of the scoring on Rescue Dawn too.

are u guys watching that? herzog is narrating from a plastic bag's pov

yeah it's pretty great

music score is sorta bad

yeah Into the Abyss completely ruined my night. just deeply depressing on multiple levels. don't think it's one i'll ever return to.

Yoo hoo
Has anyone read the book about Heart of Glass yet? Every Night the Trees Disappear by Alan Greenberg?

If so,
(1) recommend?
(2) is the music discussed at all, or just the movie/circumstances surrounding the making of the movie?

http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/jack-reacher/trailers/jack-reacher-theatrical-trailer-30887645.html

I got the Heart of Glass book (Every Night the Trees Disappear) for Christmas and I'm already halfway done. It's got short chapters/vignettes about the production of the movie (which involved villagers and hypnotism, typically) intercut with excerpts of some kind of treatment of the movie itself. Enjoyable easy reading, nothing about the music yet but at least it's not stuffy/academic (yet).

added to wishlist

I just finished it -- it's enjoyable, and has lots of poignant/puzzling classic Herzog moments. Nothing about the soundtrack, but there's a small bit at the end about the Ancient Music Ensemble that plays on Skellig rock, but I don't even remember that part at all. Guess it's time to watch the movie again!

Oh and there's this hilarious part where Herzog is like (I'm paraphrasing here) "I'm the best person at handling music in movies, I am #1" and then some other guy comes along and says no, he is the worst.

other guy is wrong

Agree. I just checked and it was Thomas Binkley of the Ancient Music Ensemble, who only approved of the way Hollywood handles movie music. Apparently he spent a large portion of the evening talking about Mickey Mouse, so clearly he cannot be trusted.

I wish more hollywood movies had used ppl like Binkley/Ancient Music Ensemble!

(wish someone would put out David Munrow's Zardoz score on CD)

The Devils too!! Have you ever heard A Walk with Love and Death by Georges Delerue?
I trust Thomas Binkley with ancient music, but not so much with talking cartoon mice.

Yeah Walk w Love n Death is a nice example! Delerue did a couple others with that period flavor too... The Borgias (old miniseries) was one...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cijkIXXiSW4

happy ppl is a weird title

agree, but it has to be a quote from someone in the movie
...right?

i mean i'm gonna go see it regardless, don't really care what it's called

cobra verde is very underrated

floor of skulls iirc

i watched the happy people, it was p great, touching seeing this trapper dude out there just being the most competent philosophical guy at one w nature, i guess herzog didnt film it just edited it down from a longer russian mini series and gave it the trademark narration, only complaint the russian translation seemed quite artless and flat

Cobra Verde isn't perfect BUT it does have the ultimate Herzog ending (well, that one or Stroszek's)

Is Cobra Verde the one with the big dance number at the end? (never thought I'd say that, but there it is)

really want to see Happy People, although the Herzog narration in one of the clips I watched was surprisingly annoying and riddled with cliches -- "No rules, no bureaucracy, total self-reliance" blah blah

taiga-related, v interesting story:

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history-archaeology/For-40-Years-This-Russian-Family-Was-Cut-Off-From-Human-Contact-Unaware-of-World-War-II-188843001.html#ixzz2JLsEc9A3

awesome story

http://media.smithsonianmag.com/images/karpagafia1.jpg

seriously, that article is amazing, must read

Sent to myself for train reading on phone.

piece is mindbending