rolling "Is This Racist?" thread

I can't see what other word he can claim to have been going for.

"negotiator" seems to be the comment-box apologist's choice

I actually buy "negotiator" more than that "blah people" nonsense as it kinda almost makes sense, but damn, abandoning that word in midstream was idiotic. It's great to see Republicans hoisted by their own "teleprompters are Communist" petard anyway.

exactly, I mean I think Santorum's an idiot too, but no way did he mean to singlehandedly destroy his campaign right there

pretty sure he's just in it for the lulz right now

who pronounces 'negotiator' with a hard g?

wait what?

i pronounce it that way. is that racist?

do you say "nejotiator"?

nejotiateur

NIGOSHEATOR

I kind of swallow the g a lil' like I'm saying 'go'

I'm not getting the phonemes down but I wouldn't pronounce the 'g' in negotiator in the way that santorum said it

does anyone really think he meant to say THAT WORD

what, negotiator? I don't think he was trying to say negotiator.

why? because you dislike Santorum? I mean neither really make sense but, c'mon man, really?

^^ posts very much in character

oh man

i mean maybe santorum is just particularly prone to stumbling over words but uhhh you don't just stumble over something that sounds like 'nig' and just leave it there dude

i'm with frogs on the this one; santorum has a long history of saying the dumbest possible thing but i really doubt he meant to throw out a racial slur during a campaign rally. he's hardly a bright public speaker though and i bet he heard what "negotiator" might sound like coming out of his mouth and did a panic move.
what a maroon.

"nattering nabobs of nig... uhh... negativism"

forks, in what universe does the word 'negotiator' sound like the n-word

i'm with frogs on the this one

on the racism thread, you are with frogs

just wanna help you walk this one back a little man

I really don't understand how you pronounce negotiator, dayo.

emil.y I place the emphasis on the vowel sound and not the consonant

I kind of swallow the g a lil' like I'm saying 'go'

i really don't understand how you pronounce 'go'!

for me its not so much the pronunciation that is so damning, its the way he bailed so quickly

I was just trying to point out that there's a difference between the pronunciation of 'g' and 'gg' - like the diff between tiger and trigger. maybe other people don't do that but I do. like if you purposely emphasized the two syllables in trigger you'd go trig-ger whereas in tiger you'd go ti-ger.

what

do people usually make Freudian slips in places where they make no grammatical sense? I mean let's say he actually did say "anti-war government n!@##%$@#$!", what would that even mean?

on the racism thread, you are with frogs

just wanna help you walk this one back a little man

*furiously F5's EXCELSIOR thread*

late reports clarify that rick perry's family hunting grounds were actually named 'negotiatorhead'

I would split trigger as tri-ger, as I'm pretty sure would all the dictionaries. Double consonants are not separable.

well okay! I concede the point.

I was just trying to point out that there's a difference between the pronunciation of 'g' and 'gg' - like the diff between tiger and trigger. maybe other people don't do that but I do. like if you purposely emphasized the two syllables in trigger you'd go trig-ger whereas in tiger you'd go ti-ger.

I just want to point out that the IPA symbol for the g in both of these words is exactly the same. Given that IPA is a universal phoneatic representation of how to pronounce words, that probably explains why no one is getting what you are talking about.

Also, the two syllables of "trigger" are "trigg-" and "-er".

dayo srs. q do you speak mandarin or cantonese regularly? wonder if syllabic rules might have you thinking about ~words~ different

meanwhile for Santorum's veep I nominate Michael Richards

Double consonants are not separable.]

I was going to comment about nu and gamma assimilating into a single gamma in Latin but I went to check my thinking which led me to a book The Mystery of the Serpent Mound which is about some bizarre new age alphabet theories around some geological formation and is published by Frog Books so yknow wheels w/in wheels everybody

so wait, did santorum call Obama a horse?

Does "anti-war government negotiator" makes sense in context?

I assume he didn't mean to come out with a racist slur either but it's a stretch.

that doesn't make much sense either but as least there's a coherent phrase there to mangle

It's not a phrase Google would have returned a single result for prior to this morning. I can only assume he lost his train of thought and was mixing his points up - "anti-war, big government, negotiate with enemies" - and just mashed it into one thing.

"anti-war" doesn't make sense

right, I think he just realized he wasn't making sense at the worst possible time

i'm from the american south. saying "negotiator" as "nigosheeatuh" is hardly a stretch.
and yeah, what sharivari said. dude is not well known for clarity of speech or thought

i'm with frogs on the this one; santorum has a long history of saying the dumbest possible thing but i really doubt he meant to throw out a racial slur during a campaign rally.

i doubt that he consciously meant to say the n-word, but i'm not certain he didn't just sort of slip into it in the heat of the rhetorical moment, at least in his own mind. like i don't think he got tripped up by the phonetic similarity of one word to the other. he got tripped up by what he was thinking. plus it sounds lot more like "nig" than "neg". the difference isn't in the pronunciation of the 'g', but of the vowel.

plus it sounds lot more like "nig" than "neg"

i'd say "negate" with a "nig". but "negative" with a "neg". "negotiate" can go either way.

fwiw, philly accent (of which i am proud owner), i pronounce 'negotiator' as 'ni-go-shi-ate-er.'

like i pronounce the first syllable of the n-word and the first syllable of negotiator the exact same way

^ negoti-ist

/nɪˈgoʊʃiˌeɪt/