_Avatar_, directed by James Cameron

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yes, pretty impressive for a hollywood movie to express liberal sentiments

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Saturday, 24 March 2012 21:42 (fourteen years ago)

oh, come on. they're not just "liberal sentiments". and it's not just a "hollywood movie". it's a family friendly summertime action-adventure sci-fi blockbuster. hardly the sort of place you typically find pointed critiques of american policy throughout history.

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Saturday, 24 March 2012 21:44 (fourteen years ago)

War of the Worlds has Tom Cruise actually grab an explosive and hurl himself into the belly an invading machine.

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Saturday, 24 March 2012 21:45 (fourteen years ago)

uh, okay...

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Saturday, 24 March 2012 21:46 (fourteen years ago)

i think that's a bit more subtle, but sure

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Saturday, 24 March 2012 21:46 (fourteen years ago)

"Avatar" was released during the respite when the American right was more or less cowed into brief submission, iirc. They had "lost." It wasn't until the summer of 2010 that they got their mojo back via the Tea Party, and by then we had all moved on from "Avatar" and onto something else. Health care reform?

I honestly enjoyed "Avatar" fine the one time I saw it, enough that I recommended it to the rest of my family ("you have to see it in 3-D!"), who between the three of them run the political gamut. They all came back from the theater with these accusatory glares, like I tricked them into seeing it. Anyway, along with, again, "Titanic," or "John Carter," or "The Hunger Games," I liked it fine and had no desire to see it again, and sense that if I did see it again, what I once appreciated wouldn't carry me through a second viewing. But this could be a generational thing. Are there some now grown folks who think back on and quote "Titanic" the way my generation may quote "Aliens?" Do kids who saw "Avatar" three years ago think of it the way some think of "Star Wars?" I want to say no, but I have no idea. It wasn't until a few years after the fact that I realized what effect the "Star Wars" prequels had on pre-teens in my neighborhood.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 24 March 2012 22:16 (fourteen years ago)

i admire the construction of the film and everything cameron achieved technically, but i wish it was a more interesting movie - something with more of an edge and less of a please-every-audience 4 quadrant mentality.

when i saw this was bumped, i assumed people were going to be talking about the fact that cameron is heading to the bottom of challenger fucking deep next week, in a submersible of his own design:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mBG0LbAoqk

http://www.bendbulletin.com/article/20120322/NEWS0107/203220366/
http://www2.macleans.ca/2012/03/22/a-giant-dive-for-mankind/

avatar 2's gonna be set in the oceans. i hope ed harris is in it!

these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Saturday, 24 March 2012 22:28 (fourteen years ago)

best part of avatar (and the only 3d thing i've ever been like @_@ at) was the scene where they wake up in that big ol room in the spaceship

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Saturday, 24 March 2012 22:33 (fourteen years ago)

it's a family friendly summertime action-adventure sci-fi blockbuster.

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Release date(s) December 10, 2009 (London premiere)
December 18, 2009 (United States)
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jpattzlovevampz 2 hours ago (Phil D.), Saturday, 24 March 2012 22:50 (fourteen years ago)

BOO-ya!! contenderizer is 100% wrong!!!

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Saturday, 24 March 2012 22:54 (fourteen years ago)

yeah I totally saw it right before Xmas that year

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Saturday, 24 March 2012 22:54 (fourteen years ago)

*crosses arms, smiles smugly*

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Saturday, 24 March 2012 22:54 (fourteen years ago)

Pedantry 101

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Saturday, 24 March 2012 22:54 (fourteen years ago)

in australia it was summertime tbf

less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 22:55 (fourteen years ago)

*uncrosses arms, frowns earnestly*

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Saturday, 24 March 2012 22:59 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah, but it was Christmas on Pandora. GAME, SET, MATCH.

jpattzlovevampz 2 hours ago (Phil D.), Saturday, 24 March 2012 23:06 (fourteen years ago)

*flails arms confusedly, face contorting into wild grimaces*

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Saturday, 24 March 2012 23:17 (fourteen years ago)

whoa had no idea cameron was headed for challenger deep, that is mega dope

catbus otm (gbx), Saturday, 24 March 2012 23:27 (fourteen years ago)

ha that cameron sub teaser is pretty funny, hes got some super hi tech stuff to do something thats only been done once before fifty years ago, but they didnt get pictures well actually some pictures have been taken since then, but james cameron might DIE which admittedly would be p compelling

lag∞n, Saturday, 24 March 2012 23:29 (fourteen years ago)

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Release date(s) December 10, 2009 (London premiere)
December 18, 2009 (United States)
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lol, got me there

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Saturday, 24 March 2012 23:45 (fourteen years ago)

Movie is so gay

PSOD (Ste), Sunday, 25 March 2012 19:39 (fourteen years ago)

not gonna let my kids see it due to bestiality with those flying things

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Sunday, 25 March 2012 19:41 (fourteen years ago)

This was on TV this evening and I unintentionally gave it another three hours of my time, so I begrudgingly admit it must have some power to captivate and entertain. The early forest scenes look far more cartoony in 2d though (oh shit have I inadvertently made an argument for 3d? my bad); and the finale with the most absurdly gung-ho military commander in movie history jumping out of an exploding plane in a giant exoskeleton and having a knife fight with jake (while still in exoskeleton) is RIDICULOUS.

ledge, Sunday, 25 March 2012 22:26 (fourteen years ago)

don't bring a knife to a spearfight

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Sunday, 25 March 2012 22:26 (fourteen years ago)

the finale with the most absurdly gung-ho military commander in movie history jumping out of an exploding plane in a giant exoskeleton and having a knife fight with jake (while still in exoskeleton) is RIDICULOUS.

in the best possible way!

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Sunday, 25 March 2012 23:30 (fourteen years ago)

Cameron is at the bottom of the ocean btw

catbus otm (gbx), Monday, 26 March 2012 00:27 (fourteen years ago)

thank god

lag∞n, Monday, 26 March 2012 00:39 (fourteen years ago)

layup

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Monday, 26 March 2012 00:48 (fourteen years ago)

"james cameron might DIE which admittedly would be p compelling"
^

Lil T the Bowed Jet (forksclovetofu), Monday, 26 March 2012 20:22 (fourteen years ago)

Surely this dude has a 3-D cabin cam running, no? They could insert him as a bumper into "Titanic 3-D."

"Are you ready to go back to "Titanic" ... with me?"

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 26 March 2012 21:52 (fourteen years ago)

am i the only one that thinks it's actually p rad that james cameron went to the bottom of the ocean in a bright green submarine? i guess i kinda like holding onto the idea that not everything that happens involving a famous person is necessarily despicable. the ocean is tremendous!

catbus otm (gbx), Monday, 26 March 2012 23:08 (fourteen years ago)

Was reading a book about big disastrous movie productions recently, and it included Abyss. Cameron's a trained physicist, among other things, which surprised me (though it fits with the attention to detail he gives to _most_ of his special effects stuff, in terms of making it look/feel right. Boobs on egg-layers aside, of course.)

Not only dermatologists hate her (James Morrison), Monday, 26 March 2012 23:42 (fourteen years ago)

no, it is really cool. i cant wait to see the footage

these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 00:45 (fourteen years ago)

Cameron's a trained physicist, among other things

― Not only dermatologists hate her (James Morrison), Monday, March 26, 2012 7:42 PM (1 hour ago)

Cameron enrolled at Fullerton College, a 2-year community college, in 1973 to study physics. He switched to English, then dropped out before the start of the fall 1974 semester.[18]

dont think that really qualifies, sort of like when metal dudes claim to be classically trained, going to the bottom of the sea is sweet but hes not doing it for anything but his own amusement, i mean theres a reason people went there first 50 years ago and didnt go back, theres nothing a guy can do that a lil robot or a camera on a string or w/e cant, camerons nerdly seriousness re being an explorer or physicist or w/e is so v lol

lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 01:03 (fourteen years ago)

Going places is cool though.

polyphonic, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 01:12 (fourteen years ago)

Instead of going to work tomorrow I'm gonna just send in a lil robot.

polyphonic, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 01:13 (fourteen years ago)

I'm sending a string

catbus otm (gbx), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 01:36 (fourteen years ago)

tying one around my finger to remind myself to go

Lil T the Bowed Jet (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 02:29 (fourteen years ago)

:( my book mislead me

Not only dermatologists hate her (James Morrison), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 03:20 (fourteen years ago)

Cameron is totally self-taught when it comes to science stuff and in particular undersea exploration, but I want to say he's been a significant contributor to the field, not just financially but (obviously) directly as well.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 04:43 (fourteen years ago)

directorly u mean?

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 04:53 (fourteen years ago)

Directorly, too, but also directly (as in, he designs submarines and cameras and tech and goes diving all the time). But he also films what he does.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 12:49 (fourteen years ago)

one month passes...

http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/05/05/james-cameron-on-chinese-filmmakers-censorship-and-potential-co-productions/

From now on Cameron will be dedicating his time to diving and making Avatar sequels. That's it.

"I’ve divided my time over the last 16 years over deep ocean exploration and filmmaking. I’ve made two movies in 16 years, and I’ve done eight expeditions. Last year I basically completely disbanded my production company’s development arm. So I’m not interested in developing anything. I’m in the “Avatar” business. Period. That’s it. I’m making “Avatar 2,” “Avatar 3,” maybe “Avatar 4,” and I’m not going to produce other people’s movies for them. I’m not interested in taking scripts. And that all sounds I suppose a little bit restricted, but the point is I think within the “Avatar” landscape I can say everything I need to say that I think needs to be said, in terms of the state of the world and what I think we need to be doing about it. And doing it in an entertaining way."

He is also "in awe" of Zack Snyder, the only new filmmaker that blows him away.

DavidM, Monday, 7 May 2012 20:56 (fourteen years ago)

this fuckin guy
thank god he's not working for DC or marvel i guess

(Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 7 May 2012 21:25 (fourteen years ago)

watched avatar again a few weeks ago

still sucks

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Monday, 7 May 2012 22:01 (fourteen years ago)

he is the only person alive who is still stuck in that universe

JIM THOMETHEUS (zachlyon), Monday, 7 May 2012 22:08 (fourteen years ago)

Avatar sucks

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 7 May 2012 22:09 (fourteen years ago)

i can see exactly why Cameron would love Zack Snyder

i have yet to rewatch Avatar. i know i will cringe throughout even though i enjoyed it as theatre spectacle.
i sort of hope the 2nd movie will be really good, a la Empire Strikes Back or Aliens, though i have a feeling it could easily be worse than Temple of Doom...

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Monday, 7 May 2012 22:10 (fourteen years ago)

Loved the shit out of Avatar in the theater. Have not rewatched since then.

Hierophantiasis (Jon Lewis), Monday, 7 May 2012 22:19 (fourteen years ago)

maybe “Avatar 4,”

*prays*

lag∞n, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 00:23 (fourteen years ago)


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