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yeah he's one of the people who has been drawing with it

caek, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 09:19 (fourteen years ago)

seems like 3rd gen ipad is getting positioned as the moment when apple hopes to leap that gap and take the device from a consumption vehicle to a creation vehicle. they spent a lot of time during the launch event talking about photo and video editing, and the ability to do high quality art like this:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/phptkErEpDSC_1300.jpg

still not the greatest for long writing jags but a wireless keyboard goes a long way towards offsetting that issue, I'm a big fan of the combo case/keyboard thingys.

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 14:36 (fourteen years ago)

and with their control of the component supply chain and the massive amounts of cash they can pour into R&D (prolly more than any other company on earth at this point), apple will be able to make massive processing power and storage breakthroughs in the next few years. if they don't miserably fuck everything up w/o jobs around to mind the shop.

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 14:39 (fourteen years ago)

They haven't really done the storage work themselves! The processing power thing is now in their court since they've absorbed a lot of the ARM development groups, but as far as displays, storage, and battery technology go they're either buying up the entire stocks of the best-of-breed stuff or are pushing external companies to produce to their specs.

mh, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 14:46 (fourteen years ago)

that's kinda what I mean by control of the supply chain - obv they don't own all the pieces but they are the vendor to whom a lot of suppliers are now beholden

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 14:54 (fourteen years ago)

i think the consumption/creation argument is just... who cares. most people use their 'regular' computers for the same kind of 'consumption' anyway

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 14:55 (fourteen years ago)

^troo, tho if you're not interested in talking about how much current and future ipads will be able to eat into laptop usage in a play for device dominance then you might be in the wrong thread

also my new ipad has been delivered and is somewhere in the building *anticipates*

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:00 (fourteen years ago)

why did they hide it??

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:00 (fourteen years ago)

it's a big building and the package must wend its way through a complex series of causeways checkpoints and delivery tubes fyi I work in the matrix

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:03 (fourteen years ago)

has the matrix gone retina yet?

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:04 (fourteen years ago)

2 wormholes ago

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:05 (fourteen years ago)

I think the whole creation/consumption thing is bullshit because the argument is basically "I can't create the same things I could create on my laptop" which of course you can't, it's a different sort of thing. I am not going to be creating candid snapshots with my laptop, but I would with my iPhone.

mh, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:11 (fourteen years ago)

I was watching an old school star trek episode a couple weeks ago and noticed one of the engineers had a touchpad device similar to ipad, wonder if jobs saw it as a kid and just got stuck on building one for himself

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:13 (fourteen years ago)

wonder if he travelled back in time and stole it, more like it?

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:18 (fourteen years ago)

it's been pretty acknowledged that the fake tech of star trek has inspired a lot of real stuff, design interfaces, cell phones... transparent aluminum... well, maybe not that one, that was just a coincidence

Nhex, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:19 (fourteen years ago)

ferengis

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:19 (fourteen years ago)

still waiting for mah tribble

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:22 (fourteen years ago)

2001 notably has the same sort of thing going on, I think?

There's an entertaining correlation between late 80s/early 90s work at Xerox PARC that involved devices called tabs, pads, and boards. The pad was 9"x11", the tab was 2"x3", and the board was pretty much a whiteboard. The idea was that with ubiquitous computing, you'd have a variety of devices that would serve different roles.

I've found myself context switching if I have an iPad and iPhone handy. If I'm watching something on the iPad, I'll check email on my phone. If I'm checking my calendar, I'll pull out my phone but if I'm planning multiple events I'll walk over to my computer or pull out my iPad.

mh, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:22 (fourteen years ago)

relevant image?
http://www.ubiq.com/hypertext/weiser/majortrends.gif

mh, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:23 (fourteen years ago)

Draw Some on mah iPad, YANIV on mah iphone

catbus otm (gbx), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:24 (fourteen years ago)

CREATE yanivs and assafs

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:25 (fourteen years ago)

wonder if he travelled back in time and stole it, more like it?

― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, March 21, 2012 11:18 AM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

forward, you mean

max, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:26 (fourteen years ago)

star trek was filmed in the past smdh

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:31 (fourteen years ago)

so he traveled to the past to steal a non-functional prop?

mh, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:32 (fourteen years ago)

who says it was... non-functional http://www.wanderingheretic.com/wp-images/icons/spock.gif

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:36 (fourteen years ago)

star trek was a documentary beamed back to the 60s to ensure creation of the ipad

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:37 (fourteen years ago)

finally somebody is making sense in this thread

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:38 (fourteen years ago)

see that is what I was saying

mh, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:39 (fourteen years ago)

i don't think it's a bullshit thing at all

i'm just saying that i don't think of a computer, a tablet and a smartphone as different ways to accomplish the same core functions ... i think a laptop computer and a desktop computer share the same core functions, but a phone and a tablet are fundamentally different from the first two

i think a lot of the "mobile" functions of a laptop (ie surfing the web at the coffee shop or checking your email in the airport) are pretty well handled by a smartphone or tablet at this point

the late great, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 16:42 (fourteen years ago)

ya i agree with that for sure, i just dont think the line is between 'creating' and 'consuming' necc

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 16:43 (fourteen years ago)

popping in with a couple of qs...

i am trying to decide between buying an ipad 2 16gb refurb model (i'm guessing ex-display) and a new ipad. the refurb is €349, price for the new one hasn't been released yet (i'm in Ireland) but i'm guessing will be around €500. i'm poorish but in the mood to splash out (just got made full-time at my job for the next year, having spent the last year working half-time). i'm leaning towards the refurb, what do you folks reckon?

second q is re those combined keyb/covers that Edward mentioned upthread, any specific recommendations?

thanks folks

Volvo Twilight (p-dog), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 18:20 (fourteen years ago)

I got a refurbished ipad 2 16gb fairly recently and I dig it, I dunno if I have any advice w/r/t the difference between the two.

after a lot of price/spec research I got this to go with it:
http://www.amazon.com/New-Trent-IMP39B-Bluetooth-adjustable/dp/B0050M92CU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1332354181&sr=8-1 and think it does the job quite well for the price.

iatee, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 18:24 (fourteen years ago)

second q is re those combined keyb/covers that Edward mentioned upthread, any specific recommendations?

having tried a number of these, my favorite is the targus versavu, but it doesn't look like the keyboard model is available in the UK based on a cursory search of amazon.co.uk.

second best is the zaggmate, tho there may be a preferable local alternative.

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 18:57 (fourteen years ago)

I think I've made a thing of this before but I use my iPad loads at work, to whit:

- planning work with a mindmapping thingo
- screen mockups with my client sitting next to me
- taking notes when collecting information from chatterbox clients (wireless kb => no need for full laptop)
- draggy flowcharts
- annotating other people's work and emailing it back to them (had to do this urgently a few weeks ago; it was a Friday night on the tram, paper would not have cut it)

Also Chinese study (writing characters on a tablet >>>>>>> scrawling with a mouse or digitiser wotsit).

ymmv but fuck me if this isn't the most useful, portable and productive laptop I've ever owned.

TURPS-DEFCON1.jpg (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:08 (fourteen years ago)

mindmaps / flowcharts - omnigraffle or what?

lukas, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:24 (fourteen years ago)

iThoughts HD

TURPS-DEFCON1.jpg (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:29 (fourteen years ago)

oh and flowcharts = TouchDraw

TURPS-DEFCON1.jpg (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:30 (fourteen years ago)

ty

lukas, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:36 (fourteen years ago)

What the F - iTunes insists my credit card's security code is wrong, but it is NOT WRONG! It has been working fine until today. Anyone know anything about this?

free societies must let drunken gay Texans have sex (Je55e), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:42 (fourteen years ago)

yes, your credit card's security code is wrong

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:43 (fourteen years ago)

that shouldn't have made me laugh as hard as it did

THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:49 (fourteen years ago)

if you're using itunes from an ipad/iphone account updates can act wonky sometimes, best to make those kind of changes from yr mac/pc

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:51 (fourteen years ago)

Credit card processing is temporarily unavailable. Please try again later.

Well DANDY. You know what that means? It means that DRAW SOMETHING is also unavailable and I here I am on my day off, NOT PLAYING IT.

free societies must let drunken gay Texans have sex (Je55e), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:28 (fourteen years ago)

I HATE APPLE

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:12 (fourteen years ago)

in other news, apparently the ipad 2 lops off the ends of widescreen images

I loaded an mp4 of the prometheus trailer to both the ipad 2 and 3 to compare, and looky here

ipad 2

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/prometheus_ipad_2.png

ipad 3

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/prometheus_ipad_3.png

laptop

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/prometheus_laptop.png

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:19 (fourteen years ago)

cue ppl complaining "movies look smaller on my new ipad blecch"

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:21 (fourteen years ago)

I mean I knew the ipad 2 aspect ratio was 4:3 but really didn't think about it all that much

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:22 (fourteen years ago)

haha wait I'm an idiot

my ipad 2 somehow had the widescreen toggle off

NEVER MIND

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:30 (fourteen years ago)

sheesh

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:33 (fourteen years ago)

facepalm :)

WE ARE VERY BUSY PPL WE DON'T HAVE TIME FOR YOUR GAMES EDWARD

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:34 (fourteen years ago)


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