another thing i've noticed: Alien Resurrection and Deep Blue Sea are virtually the same movie
― Conmetheus (latebloomer), Monday, March 19, 2012
OTM and I find A:R much less painful if I watch it as spoof.
Need to watch A3 again, I think. iirc Charleses Dutton and Dance ruled pretty hard?
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Monday, 19 March 2012 23:27 (twelve years ago) link
"Prometheus - Dunkle Zeichen"
oh man that's a great beer
― epistantophus, Monday, 19 March 2012 23:31 (twelve years ago) link
That whiny "They're gonna get us, Man! We're gonna die, Maaaan!" guy in Aliens ruins that movie for me nowadays.
― Lawanda Pageboy (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 19 March 2012 23:40 (twelve years ago) link
HEY watch what you say about Bill Paxton, friend
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 19 March 2012 23:42 (twelve years ago) link
Alien Resurrection: get that shit away from me, made me hate Joss Whedon and his idiot fans ever since
LOL ppl blaming screenwriters for what ends up on the screen. Like, Whedon is the LEAST responsible person for what happened there.
― butvi wouls (Phil D.), Monday, 19 March 2012 23:42 (twelve years ago) link
I love Hudson
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 19 March 2012 23:43 (twelve years ago) link
maaaaaaaaaaaaan
Whedon's fans are idiots though. I think we can all agree on that
― Number None, Monday, 19 March 2012 23:47 (twelve years ago) link
wasn't resurrection based on a comic?
i am almost certain there was a comic about a dude who is studying captured aliens that also features a disabled character
worst thing about jeuneut is how he uses the same weirdo character actors over and over again
― the late great, Monday, 19 March 2012 23:57 (twelve years ago) link
I like them in his "own" movies, but yeah, it was pretty weird seeing the clown protagonist from Delicatessen in an Alien movie.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 00:19 (twelve years ago) link
Every director does that, you just hate Dominique Pinon
― mom in the woods (Ówen P.), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 00:23 (twelve years ago) link
jeunet is really not that great guys
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 00:24 (twelve years ago) link
haha i've always thought this too
― Summer Slam! (Ste), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 00:30 (twelve years ago) link
also
Alien = greenAliens = blueAlien3 = yellowAlien4 = doesn't know what it is
― Summer Slam! (Ste), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 00:31 (twelve years ago) link
sort of a diarhhea green
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 00:34 (twelve years ago) link
I've read this defence of him often, re Alien 4, so I tracked down his original script, and pretty much everything I hated is in there already. He just didn't GET why the first films are great; all he did was write a splatter movie with a few half-arsed pretensions.
― Not only dermatologists hate her (James Morrison), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 00:35 (twelve years ago) link
Fincher almost made one without an android, but the android appearance is so cool I'll forgive it.
― mh, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 03:05 (twelve years ago) link
my mood after watching Alien 4 in the theatre on opening day was one of sneering disappointment that later turned to sadness. i haven't even rewatched it! yet i've learned nothing and am super excited about Prometheus.
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 03:21 (twelve years ago) link
you do know ppl are talking about "alien resurrection" not "alien3" right
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, March 19, 2012 12:40 PM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
clearly not! i missed that turn in the conversation, headed off into the dark woods alone. and yeah, was trying to say that the popularity of "gritty", "industrial" film, game and video design in the 90s owes a lot to alien³. like whatever alien resurrection might owe to quake-style game design, a fair amount of that probably circles back to the franchise via fincher.
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 03:31 (twelve years ago) link
xpost
dunno why A:R would have anything to teach you about PROMETHEUS tbh. I am straight up 100% officially unwaveringly anticipating the hell out of this until I have any reason not to. So far so good imo.
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 03:32 (twelve years ago) link
does this take place before or after the alien v predator films thx in advance
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 03:42 (twelve years ago) link
those are not actually real. newt dreamed them while dying in hypersleep.
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 03:46 (twelve years ago) link
plus 3 and 4 while she was at it
i think the jeunet 4 is kinda good, idk. it's a cable staple now, nobody gives a fuck about 3 anymore
― goole, Monday, March 19, 2012 6:25 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
its not even that jeunet is terrible or its a bad movie its that he was all lol alien imna deconstruct you not realizing that it was a great franchise that people loved prob because he didnt speak english
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 03:50 (twelve years ago) link
hoos otm tho its so 90s like a trip hop remix of some old great blues song
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 03:52 (twelve years ago) link
on IMDB a bunch of staunch defenders a few years ago accused Americans of hating Alien 4 because a Frenchman made it
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 03:53 (twelve years ago) link
u mean alien freedom homie
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 03:54 (twelve years ago) link
haha
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 03:55 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, i kind of like the wackness of alien 4. it's a cool, weird & entertainingly messed-up slice of sci-fi horror nonsense. it's only shitty if you try to take it geek-serious in a "this is some shit that really happened in the very important alien universe" sense.
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 04:01 (twelve years ago) link
alien 3, otoh, is seriously great for a good hour or so. then it catastrophically isn't. i'm not sure which is better or worse. neither's a patch on the first two.
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 04:02 (twelve years ago) link
― lag∞n, Tuesday, March 20, 2012 3:52 AM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
omg yes
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 04:03 (twelve years ago) link
im gonna level w/you guys that was an actual cool idea i had in the 90s like you know what this mississippi john hurt could use beats modernize it a lil my god
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 04:06 (twelve years ago) link
luckily i had no idea how to remix anything
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 04:07 (twelve years ago) link
oh trip hop...
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 04:07 (twelve years ago) link
i liked it
and then one day i didn't
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 04:08 (twelve years ago) link
We've come a long long way togetherThrough the hard times and the goodI have to evacuate you, babyThrough a tiny perforation in the ship's hull
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 04:08 (twelve years ago) link
^ big beat, same dif
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 04:09 (twelve years ago) link
i think the main thing that bugged me was that Alien4 wasn't scary or gritty
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 04:09 (twelve years ago) link
i just remember this kid sitting in a dorm room say emphatically 'no, dj spooky spin experimental trip hop' even tho i had really nothing to do w/the conversation i am deeply embarrassed to this day
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 04:10 (twelve years ago) link
Also good: the A vs P games put out by Monolith in the early 00's. Obsidian was going to do a full Aliens RPG, but Sega canceled the project.
There's a new game coming out which is back to Colonial Marines.
― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 04:37 (twelve years ago) link
I haven't played a computer game more complicated than spider solitaire in 10 years, but seriously reconsidering it based on that upcoming colonial marines game--the preview stuff makes it look like a well-done way to immerse yourself in that world
― Not only dermatologists hate her (James Morrison), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 05:22 (twelve years ago) link
oh man, don't even wait: a vs p is a fucking thrill! nothing matches creeping down a hallway as the blip on your radar gradually increases with intensity, as if some false comfort or assurance that you've got the drop on the aliens when in fact your swerving your flashlight all fucking over, desperate to find them crawling around a wall before they ultimately get you
― kelpolaris, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 05:33 (twelve years ago) link
it was something i only wished doom 3 had a little more of... you tended to know when enemies would drop out. the levels, the atmosphere, always just set up for it
― kelpolaris, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 05:34 (twelve years ago) link
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Monday, March 19, 2012
just finished re-watching it this evening and this is vv OTM, despite it coming off from the jump like a very special Doctor Who directed by Terry Gilliam with the lighting guys from an Aerosmith video.
basically solid until SPOILER charles dance gets whacked END SPOILER and then immediately unbearable
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 06:00 (twelve years ago) link
the lighting guys from an Aerosmith video.
heh. funny you mention that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvFeqUQcBOE
― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 06:31 (twelve years ago) link
http://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/482780_368150079874787_256360704387059_1168245_1753756663_n.jpg
― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 06:35 (twelve years ago) link
Ok, finally just watched both the American & UK trailers for this, and the fact that they ever half-assedly claimed this wasn't an Alien movie is bonkers.
I'm just hoping they don't pull some Prequels shit and feel compelled to dump visual refs from the original flicks into this one just to try to give it a bigger impact by reminding you of the movies that preceded it.
Cute that both this & the first AvP flick involve archeological clues leading the heroes to get fucked up.
― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 06:45 (twelve years ago) link
Also, cute that they fit a DW ref in there by naming a character "Dr. Elizabeth Shaw"
― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 06:48 (twelve years ago) link
They're going to find a stargate, aren't they? Xpost
― StanM, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 07:04 (twelve years ago) link