"LOL, Fuck Muamba. He's dead." wasn't the tweet that got the authorities' attention, right? I should certainly hope not. Anyway, what were the tweets that got the cops after him?
― free societies must let drunken gay Texans have sex (Je55e), Monday, 19 March 2012 19:37 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, they don't say what the actual offending tweets were. probably for the best that they're not reprinted.
― Lester the Unlikely (crüt), Monday, 19 March 2012 19:39 (twelve years ago) link
"According to the dictionary [the N word] does not mean black. It means a low down, lazy, sorry, low down person. That’s what the N word means."
what dictionary is this???
― i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Monday, 19 March 2012 19:40 (twelve years ago) link
hasn't Elvis Costello argued the same thing? ("Oliver's Army" uses the word but really isn't about black people)
― frogbs, Monday, 19 March 2012 19:42 (twelve years ago) link
otm
― max, Monday, 19 March 2012 19:44 (twelve years ago) link
don't trust elvis costello's cred on this issue
― lou reed scott walker monks niagra (chinavision!), Monday, 19 March 2012 19:44 (twelve years ago) link
no elvis costello is well-known to be a really sensitive, intelligent interrogator of race
― max, Monday, 19 March 2012 19:45 (twelve years ago) link
Woman Is The Low Down, Lazy, Sorry, Low Down Person Of The World
― Lester the Unlikely (crüt), Monday, 19 March 2012 19:45 (twelve years ago) link
hey, has there been discussion on the death o trayvon martin anywhere else on this board?
― dayo, Monday, 19 March 2012 19:47 (twelve years ago) link
Bicentennial Low Down, Lazy, Sorry, Low Down Person Of The World
― we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 19 March 2012 19:50 (twelve years ago) link
It isn't? Really?
― butvi wouls (Phil D.), Monday, 19 March 2012 19:51 (twelve years ago) link
thought it was about kids in Ireland? what's your interpretation?
― frogbs, Monday, 19 March 2012 19:53 (twelve years ago) link
re: Trayvon Martin, Florida's "stand your ground" law is incredibly fucked up
― Lester the Unlikely (crüt), Monday, 19 March 2012 19:54 (twelve years ago) link
i've been wondering why trayvon hasn't gotten much talk except for i think a link upthread. doesn't really belong in the "is this racist" thread but i'm sure certain members can come up with a defense of zimmerman.
― JIM THOMETHEUS (zachlyon), Monday, 19 March 2012 19:55 (twelve years ago) link
the fact that costello specifies "one less white n****r" makes me think... maybe that is not such a racially neutral term?
then again, i'm no elvis costello
― i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Monday, 19 March 2012 19:56 (twelve years ago) link
I'm sorry, I was trying to play faux-naif there.
Is there anyone who thought "Oliver's Army" was about black people?
― butvi wouls (Phil D.), Monday, 19 March 2012 19:58 (twelve years ago) link
Karaoke and the "n word"
― i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Monday, 19 March 2012 19:59 (twelve years ago) link
i started a trayvon thread like 20 minutes ago
― max, Monday, 19 March 2012 19:59 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.theroot.com/buzz/teacher-student-read-poem-blacker
― the late great, Monday, 19 March 2012 20:19 (twelve years ago) link
"I don't know why I posted it. I'm not racist and some of my friends are from different cultural backgrounds."
it's probably not worth pondering too hard, but i often wonder what distinction people who say this are trying to draw.
― ryan, Monday, 19 March 2012 20:21 (twelve years ago) link
Elvis Costello putting the word "white" in front of the n-word kind of makes its racial connotations inarguable
― some dude, Monday, 19 March 2012 20:36 (twelve years ago) link
the trayvon story is incredibly fucked up
― Wesley Crusher: Teenage F#ck Machine (forksclovetofu), Monday, 19 March 2012 20:36 (twelve years ago) link
Webster's New Racist Dictionary, 15th ed.
― carl agatha, Monday, 19 March 2012 21:15 (twelve years ago) link
the grape soda bit in that story sort of pushes it into chappelle's show territory.
― s.clover, Monday, 19 March 2012 21:22 (twelve years ago) link
Anyway, what were the tweets that got the cops after him?
those tweets, definitely racist
http://youtu.be/nA5v2eZ5ZZE
― A BIG JOE JORDAN TYPE OF POSTER (onimo), Monday, 19 March 2012 21:32 (twelve years ago) link
welp
― thuggish ruggish Brahms (DJP), Monday, 19 March 2012 21:35 (twelve years ago) link
ah, so that's who Dom was retweeting.
― pplains, Monday, 19 March 2012 21:38 (twelve years ago) link
I've posted a couple of Trayvon Martin bits on FB, but I guess I didn't realize it hadn't been discussed here before. Hugely tragic, and it's going to be rage-making if Zimmerman gets off without even being charged with anything.
― Soggy Cheeseburgers (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 19 March 2012 21:51 (twelve years ago) link
a friend of mine has done the copy for some of the news reports. it's fucking sickening.
when the law was passed a few years ago, most citizens were like "oh, here we go"...and here is the legacy of said law.
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 02:52 (twelve years ago) link
esp when that dickhead used to call the cops over menial shit. like he sounds like an overexcitable neighborhood watch dude that suffers from delusions of grandeur and thinks himself a hero and doesn't realize he created the alleged danger that he 'defended' himself from. wouldn't be surprised if he actually believes he did nothing wrong.
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 02:55 (twelve years ago) link
foul. did not hear about this until now
― Nhex, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 02:57 (twelve years ago) link
the cops saying that the screams were Zimmerman's. why would a dude with a loaded gun be screaming for help? it doesn't even fit occam's razor, his story.
Hopefully the FBI investigation picks up where our incompetent local Sheriffs failed. not that it will be difficult to do a better job. Sanford cops once took about 10 minutes to respond to an alarm I set off by mistake in a theatre once...when they were located down the street.
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 03:04 (twelve years ago) link
god, that whole thing is so fucking infuriating. the cops "correcting" explicit witness statements saying that martin screamed for help to indicate that it was zimmerman who shouted.
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 03:06 (twelve years ago) link
This guy was a well-intentioned youth with snacks just walking. I got really sad a minute ago, kind of relating that to an ilxor
― mh, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 03:08 (twelve years ago) link
Nuke Florida
see like...here's the thing. even IF Zimmerman was telling the truth about being jumped (and I have less than 10% confidence in that)...let's examine the events leading up to this.
You call the cops to report suspicious activity which essentially equates to being a 17 year old boy aimlessly walking about town. You have a gun on you that is loaded (in violation of Neighborhood Watch protocol). You pursue the teen, despite the dispatcher telling you not to do it.
You presumably confront the teen for no reason, the teen reacts aggressively, and you shoot him.
Even in THAT scenario, how can he claim self-defense if he provoked an unnecessary altercation and then shot an unarmed man? Granted I don't believe Zimmerman's version of the story anyway, but it's ridiculous that he thinks his version of events make him look that much better.
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 03:12 (twelve years ago) link
xpost can I at least pack my things before I flee?
sad thing is, my expectations are that after the FBI investigates, Zimmerman still won't be charged...A. because of the ridiculous Florida law, but B. because so much time has passed now since the incident.
I'm sure they'll find all kinds of evidence of neglect on the police department's end and will sharply rebuke them, as well as Zimmerman, but that's gonna mean a whole lotta fuckall . I'm really hoping I'm wrong though.
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 03:15 (twelve years ago) link
an unarmed boy on the sidewalk vs a man in a car -- i can't think of a single situation that would ever require the latter to defend himself. unless driving away unscathed is considered a defensive maneuver.
― JIM THOMETHEUS (zachlyon), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 03:59 (twelve years ago) link
At the very least Zimmerman has been named and shamed in the media. Thats... some kind of rough justice at the least? No... it isnt, but you know.
― Medical Dance Crab With Lesson (Trayce), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 04:03 (twelve years ago) link
There is a chance that, even if the Florida law makes state homicide prosecution impossible (and that is a large if), Fed investigation would lead to charges filed for violations of Trayvon's rights.
Given who posted it, this http://www.theroot.com/buzz/teacher-student-read-poem-blacker was probably gotcha-bait, but I do think it's worth looking at -- there's a fine-line between a genuine interest in dialect and being a dickhead who wonders why we can't have Amos n' Andy anymore. (More Than voiceover dude being one of those dickheads, goddammit.)
― Three Word Username, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 08:04 (twelve years ago) link
xp I bet there are a nontrivial number of people in his neighborhood and nationwide who consider him a hero now. America is actually just that fucked up.
― butvi wouls (Phil D.), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 09:41 (twelve years ago) link
Pretty sure the teacher who asked to read the poem "blacker" is an ignorant asshole.
― Marilyn Hagerty: the terroir of tiny town (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 21:21 (twelve years ago) link
there were definitely a couple of uncomfortable times in high school in which my teachers tried to match eye dialect
― Lester the Unlikely (crüt), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 21:24 (twelve years ago) link
ah, there's nothing like fielding the "what do your people think of slavery?" question in a high school class
― thuggish ruggish Brahms (DJP), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 21:29 (twelve years ago) link
And yet, here you are on this thread.
― pplains, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 21:29 (twelve years ago) link
in some ways, being a minority in America is a little like having a permanently itchy scab
― thuggish ruggish Brahms (DJP), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 21:30 (twelve years ago) link
"Is this bumper sticker racist? I know, I'll ask the person of color I know on the Internet."
― pplains, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 21:31 (twelve years ago) link
what do your people think of slavery?What the hell are you supposed to say to that? Christ! Singling one kid out to be the group spokesperson for whatever group is just bullshit imo.
― Marilyn Hagerty: the terroir of tiny town (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 21:33 (twelve years ago) link