def one of the better adaptations
― the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 16 March 2012 19:20 (twelve years ago) link
this looks fun! stupid, silly, but potentially entertaining, and i do love johnny depp, so sign me up. i'm kind of a burton apologist, though. i find even his worst films sort of "diverting" or at least generically "watchable". i'm a sucker for elaborate production design, gothic atmosphere, eye candy in general, and at the very least, he knows how to keep things moving colorfully along.
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Friday, 16 March 2012 19:34 (twelve years ago) link
through a distended poop chute
― the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 16 March 2012 19:40 (twelve years ago) link
I would be more inclined to watch this if it starred Depp and Carol Channing.
― Marilyn Hagerty: the terroir of tiny town (Abbbottt), Friday, 16 March 2012 19:45 (twelve years ago) link
the comic timing on this looks really sharp. thats most of the battle there. "dude from the past cannot comprehend our modern doodads" humor still works for me tbh. i'm much cooler with stale 70s pop culture jokes than i am with the fucking fudderwaken. and pfeiffer, hbc and green all look like they're havin some fun. peace
― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Friday, 16 March 2012 19:57 (twelve years ago) link
man see u
― flagp∞st (dayo), Friday, 16 March 2012 20:04 (twelve years ago) link
Most times, I'd rather watch stupid fun than some serious brooding bs.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 16 March 2012 20:06 (twelve years ago) link
Also, the 1972 date made me think of "Dracula AD 1972"
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 16 March 2012 20:08 (twelve years ago) link
shit this movie looks pretty fun
― humba (NZA), Friday, 16 March 2012 20:36 (twelve years ago) link
xxpost I was not besmirching Carol in that AIW adaptation, it's near and dear to my heart!
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 16 March 2012 21:23 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgIBGjXIoEs
― Soggy Cheeseburgers (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 16 March 2012 21:30 (twelve years ago) link
Between that and this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-UMlJhgQbY
Carol Channing scared the shit out of me when I was a kid.
― Soggy Cheeseburgers (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 16 March 2012 21:32 (twelve years ago) link
I loved her, but she was def weird as a kid growing up in the 80's
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 16 March 2012 21:51 (twelve years ago) link
from best to worst:
BeetlejuiceEd WoodEdward ScissorhandsPee-Wee's Big AdventureBig FishMars AttacksBatman ReturnsSleepy HollowBatmanCorpse BrideCharlie and the Chocolate FactoryAlice in WonderlandSweeney ToddPlanet of the Apes
obviously you can kind of imagine how I'd describe his overall career trajectory.i'm not much of a burton fan, but surprisingly it's really only the last five on that list that i pointedly never want to see again. i kind of liked big fish.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 17 March 2012 06:33 (twelve years ago) link
I'd put Sweeney in top 10 but otherwise I pretty much agree
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 17 March 2012 06:35 (twelve years ago) link
i'd switch alice and apes around, and put batman returns a few spots higher
― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Saturday, 17 March 2012 06:41 (twelve years ago) link
i dunno alice had the worst shit of his career but also some nice stuff in it. apes was just bad bad bad bad.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 17 March 2012 06:45 (twelve years ago) link
I'm too afraid to even see Apes.
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 17 March 2012 06:58 (twelve years ago) link
Just catching up with this and I feel no love for Tim Burton but I'll say that Mars Attacks and Ed Wood are pretty all-time. Edward Scissorhands has some great moments - mostly Winona Ryder in the ice-sculpture snow with that Danny Elfman score - but I've never loved it like others have. Sleepy Hollow is solid and fun iirc, but I haven't seen it since it came out and however many years can really change a man. Dark Shadows looks pretty stupid but it can go either way (fun! or FUCKING TEDIOUS SHIT).
Biggest takeaway from all of this is
I was about 9 when "Dark Shadows" was huge and never gave a shit about it. Boring. So again, what is the allure of reworking something that has no cultural currency with the "target demo"?
Morbs is now annoyed that Hollywood isn't making something for the "target demo"
― stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Saturday, 17 March 2012 07:00 (twelve years ago) link
btw if this is terrible I will be disappointed if there isn't a review headline along the lines of "Plumbing the Depps"
― stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Saturday, 17 March 2012 07:02 (twelve years ago) link
in a way apes is the worst kind of bad movie - excruciatingly boring. but alice outright offended me with its badness. apes at least had some great ape makeup.
sleepy hollow's kinda fun, chivo lubezki is really its secret weapon though
― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Saturday, 17 March 2012 07:04 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i don't anyone involved in the PotA remake really felt good about it. burton says it was the low point of his career. everybody just seems to wish it hadn't happened. maybe they'll say the same about alice in ten years, i dunno.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 17 March 2012 07:20 (twelve years ago) link
alice made more than a billion dollars theatrically, so probably not
― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Saturday, 17 March 2012 07:34 (twelve years ago) link
I saw Apes when it came out, didn't read any reviews, just met up w friends beforehand and got slightly toasted. I had a blast.
"Batman Returns" is the best Burton imo. Recently I was showing someone clips of it on youtube and we ended up practically watching the entire thing that way.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 17 March 2012 15:10 (twelve years ago) link
ed wood is just such a special movie to me, it is so perfect.
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Saturday, 17 March 2012 15:52 (twelve years ago) link
beetlejuice and pee wee's are also all-time. those are my top 3 i guess.
much of pee wee is totally out of what became tim burton's artistic "character." i like the tonal and visual looseness, the fact that he doesn't think to control every element of the mise-en-scene.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 17 March 2012 22:35 (twelve years ago) link
I also think Pee Wee works well because there was already a really specific framework for him to work within, Pee Wee's Playhouse already had its look, and Burton put a great shine to it. Not to say Burton didn't do anything, but like with Sweeney Todd (and I know there's dissension on that but w/e), the bones are established enough to not tempt him to fuck with them. Which is why Alice in Wonderland pisses me off so much. He would have done a much better job leaving well enough alone.
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 17 March 2012 22:41 (twelve years ago) link
ya it's a great collaboration, is what it feels like. xp
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Saturday, 17 March 2012 22:41 (twelve years ago) link
wait i believe pee wee's playhouse post-dated PWBA.
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Saturday, 17 March 2012 22:42 (twelve years ago) link
but i don't think the movie (except for a few passages) looks anything like the TV show!
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 17 March 2012 22:42 (twelve years ago) link
xpost
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOGWbzUM-y8
this was comedy GOLD when i was seven
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 17 March 2012 22:43 (twelve years ago) link
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, March 17, 2012 6:42 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this too
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Saturday, 17 March 2012 22:53 (twelve years ago) link
'PWBA' is just about perfect.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Saturday, 17 March 2012 22:53 (twelve years ago) link
Even if Large Marge and "Tequila" had been the only funny things in the movie it might still be all-time, but yeah, it's amazing from start to finish.
http://www.caseengaines.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Large-Marge.jpg
― butvi wouls (Phil D.), Saturday, 17 March 2012 23:02 (twelve years ago) link
Edward ScissorhandsThe Nightmare Before Christmas (controverhul)Ed WoodBeetlejuicePee-Wee's Big AdventureSleepy HollowMars AttacksBatman ReturnsSweeney ToddBatmanCorpse BrideBig FishAlice in WonderlandCharlie and the Chocolate FactoryPlanet of the Apes
amateurist's list was pretty much spot on. i've moved things around a bit, but not much. and regardless of who gets the director's credit, i figure the nightmare before christmas deserved to be counted as a "tim burton movie". dude's made 10 or 11 films i at least like. in that list, it's only at big fish that i start to have strong reservations.
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Monday, 19 March 2012 04:09 (twelve years ago) link
Carol Channing is Johhny Depps Mom
― The Cheerfull Turtle (Latham Green), Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:50 (twelve years ago) link
You're johnny depp's mom
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:51 (twelve years ago) link
besides pwba mars attacks is the best...it's definitely his most cynical movie, and probably his funniest; it's like an alternate universe version of independence day (they make a great party night double-header btw).
― humba (NZA), Thursday, 22 March 2012 19:14 (twelve years ago) link
also it's the one that least blatantly looks like a "tim burton movie"
I must admit, I am a woman and I did let a Depp got from my Utey
― The Cheerfull Turtle (Latham Green), Friday, 23 March 2012 16:38 (twelve years ago) link
Not my idea of a successful publicity stunt.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 19 April 2012 17:48 (twelve years ago) link
I am saddened.
And that movie looks so bad.
― MrDasher, Thursday, 19 April 2012 18:06 (twelve years ago) link
there are posters ALL OVER buses and bus stops here in Chicago, kinda surprised at how big the ad campaign is so far
― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 19 April 2012 21:04 (twelve years ago) link
nobody in the US knows this show. movie is not going to do well.
― Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 19 April 2012 21:06 (twelve years ago) link
dunno if that matters really
― Number None, Thursday, 19 April 2012 21:07 (twelve years ago) link
what was the last summer blockbuster based on little-known material that succeeded
you can strike "summer" from that entirely if you like
― Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 19 April 2012 21:11 (twelve years ago) link
Iron Man was a minor player in the public's consciousness of the comic universe, methinks.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 19 April 2012 21:13 (twelve years ago) link
but tbh this will do nowhere near the box office Iron Man did.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 19 April 2012 21:14 (twelve years ago) link