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dark entries !! dark entries!!! Barnabus!! Peter!!
― The Cheerfull Turtle (Latham Green), Friday, 16 March 2012 14:10 (twelve years ago) link
horror+ soap opera + reality show
― The Cheerfull Turtle (Latham Green), Friday, 16 March 2012 14:14 (twelve years ago) link
I don't know how much cultural currency the original show has now, but people who never even saw it might see this b/c of Depp, Burton, vampires, they like the trailer, or for whatever reason they go to other movies. There are people who probably don't even know this is based on an tv show.I actually love Dark Shadows but have no need to see it get the "Burton/Depp treatment" Sweeney Todd was okay but most of the recent ones have been terrible (or looked terrible.) If anything they are probably worse for people who have any fondness for or knowledge of the source material.
― MrDasher, Friday, 16 March 2012 14:31 (twelve years ago) link
i think there's an older This American Life episode about a dude who goes to a Dark Shadows convention
― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Friday, 16 March 2012 15:02 (twelve years ago) link
there could be non-cynical reasons for reviving it, like burton & co just dig it
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Friday, 16 March 2012 15:07 (twelve years ago) link
I want to say "wtf people Sweeney Todd sucked" but I think my distaste for Sondheim had a lot to do with that opinion.
― da croupier, Friday, 16 March 2012 15:18 (twelve years ago) link
The best thing I can say about the last 15 years of Tim Burton's career(having not seen Sweeney Todd) is that Charlie & The Chocolate Factory wasn't awful.
― Soggy Cheeseburgers (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 16 March 2012 15:22 (twelve years ago) link
I'm not a huge fan of Batman, but pretty much everything he did >15 years ago ranges from solid to wonderful.
― Soggy Cheeseburgers (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 16 March 2012 15:24 (twelve years ago) link
Are you kidding? That was the worst one of that entire period!
(xpost)
― stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 16 March 2012 15:24 (twelve years ago) link
I remember Sweeney Todd being not as bad as the others, but I like Stephen Sondheim. Though, they left out The Ballad Of Sweeney Todd and didn't employ good singers. I don't actually remember much else about it.
― MrDasher, Friday, 16 March 2012 15:27 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.collegehumor.com/video/5941081/tim-burtons-secret-formula
sure this has appeared on multiple tim burton threads but def applies to this trailer
― da croupier, Friday, 16 March 2012 15:28 (twelve years ago) link
that said, aside from Ed Wood, I've seen little reason to think Tim Burton should leave his wheelhouse
― da croupier, Friday, 16 March 2012 15:29 (twelve years ago) link
ed wood is pretty firmly in his wheelhouse
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Friday, 16 March 2012 15:29 (twelve years ago) link
i think we both know how the point-counterpoint on that goes
― da croupier, Friday, 16 March 2012 15:30 (twelve years ago) link
shall we?
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Friday, 16 March 2012 15:30 (twelve years ago) link
en garde!
weird old hollywood, b-movies, misfit protagonists, johnny depp.
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Friday, 16 March 2012 15:31 (twelve years ago) link
go!
The singing in Sweeny Todd was lol but the visual spectacle (which is kind of the point of Burton films nowadays) was great and, since the story it was based on was good, it didn't have awful rhetorical flourishes like whatever the fuck that thing at the end of Alice in Wonderland was (the Fudderwacken?)
― thuggish ruggish Brahms (DJP), Friday, 16 March 2012 15:32 (twelve years ago) link
biopic, not fantastical (orson aside), bill murray
― da croupier, Friday, 16 March 2012 15:33 (twelve years ago) link
i dont like sondheim but i thought sweeney todd ws pretty good
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Friday, 16 March 2012 15:33 (twelve years ago) link
― da croupier, Friday, March 16, 2012 11:33 AM (14 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
but i mean, come on, it touches on practically all his fixations, i'll give you its a bit of a departure, but it's still in his wheelhouse. just a different room in the wheelhouse. he's a successful director, he can afford a big wheelhouse!
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Friday, 16 March 2012 15:34 (twelve years ago) link
ok maybe you didn't foresee how the debate of what defines a wheelhouse would go
― da croupier, Friday, 16 March 2012 15:35 (twelve years ago) link
NEVER. FORGET.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1vaEweJUUk
― Soggy Cheeseburgers (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 16 March 2012 15:35 (twelve years ago) link
if I'd seen Alice or the original Dark Shadows I bet I'd be more annoyed by this trailer
― da croupier, Friday, 16 March 2012 15:37 (twelve years ago) link
Okay I forgot about that scene, I guess that does push AIW over C&TCF as the worst Burton, but its still really close.
t/s: "Fudderwacken" vs "the same CGI Oompa Loompa over and over"
― stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 16 March 2012 15:38 (twelve years ago) link
As I understand it, the Fudderwacken one of the tweaks they made to Alice In Wonderland in the wake of negative test audience reaction to the original version of the film (which was mostly just two hours of Tim Burton urinating on Lewis Carroll's corpse).
― Soggy Cheeseburgers (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 16 March 2012 15:38 (twelve years ago) link
I have not seen a Burton movie since . . . which came out more recently, Mars Attacks or Sleepy Hollow? Whichever of those.
― butvi wouls (Phil D.), Friday, 16 March 2012 15:39 (twelve years ago) link
Guys its only going to get worse:
On January 19, 2010, it was announced that after Dark Shadows, Burton's next project would be a Wicked-like film that showed the origin and the past of Sleeping Beauty's antagonist Maleficent. In an interview with Fandango published February 23, 2010, however, he denied he was directing any upcoming Sleeping Beauty film.[21] However, on November 23, 2010, in an interview with MTV, Burton confirmed that he was indeed putting together a script for Maleficent.[22] It was announced in The Hollywood Reporter on May 16, 2011 that Burton is no longer attached to Maleficent.[23]
― stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 16 March 2012 15:39 (twelve years ago) link
Sleepy Hollow was more recent, '99 vs '96.
I still think my idea for Alice (The White Queen and the Mad Hatter are actually villains duping Alice into destroying Wonderland) would have been a more interesting movie
xp: oh no, Tim Burton had an idea for a movie that he is no longer attached to, the future is so bleak now
― thuggish ruggish Brahms (DJP), Friday, 16 March 2012 15:40 (twelve years ago) link
the worst thing about the fudderwacken was that the instant they mention near the beginning that the mad hatter has a famous dance or something you can see it all so crystal clear and you have to sit there for 90 minutes with it hanging over you
― the "intenterface" (difficult listening hour), Friday, 16 March 2012 15:40 (twelve years ago) link
congrats for not reading all the way through, he's still involved
― stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 16 March 2012 15:41 (twelve years ago) link
uhhh
― da croupier, Friday, 16 March 2012 15:41 (twelve years ago) link
or not, lol jokes on me
Sleepy Hollow and Planet of the Apes were the one-two punch that pretty much TKO-ed Burton out of my favor.
― Soggy Cheeseburgers (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 16 March 2012 15:41 (twelve years ago) link
the worst thing about the fudderwacken is EVERYTHING
― thuggish ruggish Brahms (DJP), Friday, 16 March 2012 15:41 (twelve years ago) link
the constant back and forth confused me, still the idea of the film is awful, Burton or no
― stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 16 March 2012 15:42 (twelve years ago) link
I kind of liked Sleepy Hollow, but Apes was awful.
Apes was okay, I enjoyed it enough while watching it but have zero desire to ever see it again
― thuggish ruggish Brahms (DJP), Friday, 16 March 2012 15:43 (twelve years ago) link
i don't understand why Hollywood launched 900 "dark reinterpretation of a fairytale" tv shows and movies before a single one succeeded. Sure, it's a logical follow up to hit superhero and vampire movies, but it really does seem like a thousand ships were launched before we'd ok'd a single one. Unless Alice counts.
― da croupier, Friday, 16 March 2012 15:43 (twelve years ago) link
from best to worst:
Batman ReturnsBatmanPee-Wee's Big AdventureThe Nightmare Before Christmas (i know he didn't direct this, but still)Edward ScissorhandsMars AttacksEd WoodBeetlejuiceCorpse BrideSweeney ToddSleepy HollowBig FishPlanet of the ApesCharlie and the Chocolate FactoryAlice in Wonderland
― stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 16 March 2012 15:45 (twelve years ago) link
Oh, god, I did see Planet of the Apes. Horrible, horrible, horrible.
― butvi wouls (Phil D.), Friday, 16 March 2012 15:46 (twelve years ago) link
lol never realized two of his movies are "Johnny Depp IS Ed..."
― da croupier, Friday, 16 March 2012 15:46 (twelve years ago) link
I saw Big Fish, too! Obviously I have repressed all memory of having seen these movies why because they are terrible.
― butvi wouls (Phil D.), Friday, 16 March 2012 15:47 (twelve years ago) link
Gonna start working on my fantastical script for Edison because seriously how could Tim and Johnny resist
― da croupier, Friday, 16 March 2012 15:47 (twelve years ago) link
I don't remember Sleepy Hollow, does anyone care to say more about it, pro or con?Planet of the Apes was so awful.I didn't see AIW.
― MrDasher, Friday, 16 March 2012 15:48 (twelve years ago) link
I think I still own Big Fish, I bought it at one of those Blockbuster sales where you could buy DVDs for like $2. Still overpaid by about $3, imho.
― stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 16 March 2012 15:48 (twelve years ago) link
Sleepy Hollow had Johnny Depp doing a Doctor Who impersonation and was chock full of comedy decapitations; it was great!
― thuggish ruggish Brahms (DJP), Friday, 16 March 2012 15:49 (twelve years ago) link
otm
― da croupier, Friday, 16 March 2012 15:49 (twelve years ago) link
As we speak...a new generation of fangirls is applying Rule 34 to Peanuts, and probably every other cartoon with which you grew up.
― challoped potatoes (j.lu), Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:43 (twelve years ago) link
lol from tumblr:
Tim Burton should just make a movie called ‘Johnny Depp’. plot twist: Johnny Depp is played by Helena Bonham Carter.
plot twist: Johnny Depp is played by Helena Bonham Carter.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 31 May 2012 07:13 (twelve years ago) link
wd watch
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 31 May 2012 13:59 (twelve years ago) link
if it was done sleuth style with hbc playing both characters it could work
― the acquisition and practice of music is unfavourable to the health of (abanana), Thursday, 31 May 2012 14:20 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHchmWsrfUo
^ ultimate fish out of water film
― shit_ebooks (am0n), Thursday, 31 May 2012 15:07 (twelve years ago) link
Wound up getting out of seeing it by getting showtime wrong and giving up.
― Pita Malört (Je55e), Thursday, 31 May 2012 23:08 (twelve years ago) link
I'm watching this now. Not bad, a few dumb montages aside. It is hard to buy Eva Green as an evil witch though.
If the thought of Johnny Depp playing a vampire for under 2 hours appeals to you, you will enjoy this.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 3 September 2012 02:44 (twelve years ago) link
beg to differ
― i know your nuts hurt! who's laughing? (contenderizer), Monday, 3 September 2012 02:54 (twelve years ago) link
i *thought* that idea appealed to me until I saw Dark Shadows
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 3 September 2012 02:55 (twelve years ago) link
It's incredibly stupid and watered down. But that doesn't mean it isn't enjoyable. It just means they had like 6 producers and you end up with a safe Hollywood movie that lets Tim Burton goth out in a big-budget way.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 3 September 2012 03:41 (twelve years ago) link
As a soap Passions just got worse and worse
― Raymond Cummings, Monday, 3 September 2012 03:49 (twelve years ago) link
It is stupid and watered down. It isn't particularly enjoyable. Werewolf reveal was the biggest deus ex whogivesafuck ever. So why do I sometimes feel like defending this one? Must have something to do with Eva Green.
― Eric H., Monday, 3 September 2012 03:52 (twelve years ago) link
It's been a long time since I felt moved to walk out of a theater. Dark Shadows is as close as I've come. Not walk out in disgust as much as, I'd rather go sit in the parking lot.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 3 September 2012 04:01 (twelve years ago) link
Alice Cooper was cool tho
They should have made Alice Cooper the werewolf.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 3 September 2012 05:21 (twelve years ago) link