Louie (Louis C.K.'s show on FX)

it is weird though, because "[using] filthy language about women ... He denigrates all women and looks to the crowd to laugh" isn't, actually, to disdainfully quote myself, a flimsy reading of his character in this instance. like the point of not calling women cunts is that you don't call women cunts. it's more, baggage i feel okay about dismissing because i think he's thoughtful, because i think it's okay to have non-compliant voices in a conversation, but that's obviously a weird, nebulous line to walk & one that i wouldn't extend to a whole bunch of other people, &c.

And yet she is an OJ Simpson sympathizer. I guess filthy language about women is worse to her that beating (and possibly murdering) women.

"possibly"

glove didn't fit iirc, you must acquit iirc

but If [he] Did It...

Again, this is coming from a network actively pursuing the narrative that women are prostitutes or at the very least sluts. Calling someone a cunt is bad but it's not like he's trying to convince people that she is a walking genital. It's obviously in jest.

i don't see a sexist thread running through louis' stuff but on this thread several people have mentioned that his material about women is often the weakest part of his sets, and i agree with that

like, a lot of sexism (like a lot of racism) is just dumb blind-spot type stuff that nevertheless manages to be pretty offensive in a bad way and louis does seem to have a few blind spots about women (maybe a bit like his earlier, repented-for blind spot about casually saying "fag" in his sets)

Hi Tracer.

hi don! :D

Dunno if anyone else caught this, but CK announced a little while ago that Susan E. Morse, Woody Allen's editor from Manhattan up to Celebrity (as well as The Warriors), will be editing the new season of Louie.

oh wow, that's really interesting. he said a thing about editing previously that i liked:

In some ways not editing yourself would be like a sculptor dropping some clay off at a guys house and saying “Make a naked lady chasing a bull. and do it nice.”

I always figured that doing *everything* on the show (right down to music supervision!) would eventually get to be too much.

i don't really get why people are acting like the "louie model" of electronic self-distribution for his last album is a new thing, when it's what indie bands have been doing basically since the internet became popular. there weren't any comedy albums on bandcamp before now? i guess it's just because no big, popular comedians were doing it before him, but it's weird to me that people are acting like it's a thing he invented.

it was wildly successful for him, so others try to get on the coattails by saying "yes, I am doing this thing that SUCCESSFUL PERSON LOUIE DID" as a way to try to get money

because he did it for the video of his special, which is more like a movie? still not a new thing, except that it was a big comedian selling it for a cheap fixed price.

i feel bad for jim gaffigan because i heard him on like three podcasts last week say he was following the LOUIE MODEL to self-release his new album, it's not like jim gaffigan needs to ride on louie's coattails, but if he doesn't say that people will accuse him of ripping off louie's invention or something

same reason why "the Radiohead model" was such a big term years ago, it's more about the fact that someone established did it and turned it into a big success rather than the model itself

Self-releasing the video was a big deal and basically unheard of for comedy specials, esp. given the success.

comedy has mostly been a cable thing, no?

yeah, this isn't 'self-releasing his DVD' it's 'skipping Showtime/HBO/Comedy Central entirely'

yeah, this isn't 'self-releasing his DVD' it's 'skipping Showtime/HBO/Comedy Central entirely'
--Kiarostami bag (milo z)

iirc, he got the idea to do a self-release because HBO was apprehensive about shelling out for his new special.

it's just weird to me that no one did this until 2012, especially in a sector that prizes control over one's career

uh.
http://www.avclub.com/articles/louis-cks-cbs-sitcom-will-now-star-ashley-tisdale,69762/

did i miss that somehow?

10-year old sitcom he sold to CBS is getting picked back up, his involvement is going to be minimal AFAIK

Tisdale is pretty good. I predict nobody will write about how much they hate this as much as they do "Girls".

probably no one will care about it enough to write about it

Gotta say I love how well the one-man approach to everything is working here. Like in the Heckler/Cop episode, the Matthew Broderick/"Your father is dead" scene and the gas station holdup one both seem like they could have been from a good episode of Arrested Development or Curb (respectively), but the heckler situation was something totally unique to this show, since it's designed to sort of make you feel bad for the lady, as Louie comes down so hard on her, just saying whatever nasty stuff he can think of, regardless of whether or not it makes sense or is even funny. It just feels very unscripted and awkward and the kind of thing that most every other sitcom would try to rewrite, but Louie just kind of leaves it as-is.

I didn't feel sorry for her at all, I have zero patience for drunk assholes who think yelling things at concerts or comedy shows makes them funny.

It's like when people at baseball games lean over the fence to try to catch the ball. YOU'RE NOT PART OF THE GAME, SIT DOWN.

absolutely, she was a pretty loathsome character (especially her line about Louie hating her because she's attractive, or whatever), but I think Louie's response was supposed to be a bit over-the-top, especially as most of his jokes don't even make sense

it's kind of a boringly 'easy' scene compared to something like the Pamela scenes where he's getting ripped apart by a woman who's as smart or smarter than him, though

https://twitter.com/#!/louisck/status/198213541168300033

A white person from New York likes Girls?! ;-)

perhaps this is my naivete but i have kind of thought of louis ck as ~~~~~~~something more than a mere white guy~~~~~~~~~~~~ for some time now

he is a mexican...tell hilarious jokes!

ah yes

the encore on the carnegie hall show is incredible

press sez 4 oscar winners in new season

my guesses

marisa tomei
joe pesci
whoopi goldberg
james cameron

the corpse of hattie mcdaniel

weird

his picture was a question on jeopardy tnite. no one got it tho.

One of those Oscar winners will be someone you'd never expect, like Cuba Gooding Jr.

one episode will have Juicy J, another will have DJ Paul

every episode will feature crunchy black

Seinfeld and Maron appear in the upcoming season.

gbx's point upthread about how tuning into this show is a must just to see what happens is totally OTM - I've never seen a show with so much diversity/fucking with expectations. You can tell his whole point is not to just make people laugh and lately I've been really appreciating that - great episodes of the Simpsons or Seinfeld make me laugh more but episodes of this (like the one with Doug Stanhope) just kind of stick with you; especially if you see them more than once

You can tell his whole point is not to just make people laugh

Hope so, given the dearth of laughs in a depressing second season (which I still loved). For a comedy, an awful lot of people died in horrible ways. Plus, his sister goes insane, the love of his life leaves him hanging to hang in France, he can't afford his dream home, he's menaced by trick or treaters, he has to grovel to Dane Cook ... show's gone even darker than I imagined it would.

I think it's to the point where you can't really just call it a comedy anymore. Dunno what you'd call it but even the first season was like that - the church/crucifixion episode had virtually no laughs at all! (outside of the standup bits, of course)

It was at least kind of ruefully funny, the church ep, plus it had Lil' Louie. But the scenes in season 2 where he has to come to the rescue of his sister ... that's just sad and heartbreaking.