Oops just ate a bacon cheese burger and fries how the hell did that happen idgi
― quincie, Monday, 12 March 2012 16:56 (twelve years ago) link
update: sprouted onions I placed on windsill have turned a nice and healthy green
― flagp∞st (dayo), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 21:00 (twelve years ago) link
Low carb intentions undermined by massive bar of Hotel Chocolat chocolate brought by visitors
― ljubljana, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 02:03 (twelve years ago) link
I guess I am a nutrition nazi again, because of my diet. Every day I need to eat
~ 1300 calories< 41 grams fat~ 160 grams carbs~ 25 fiber~ 26 grams grams protein
I am really good at getting fiber and protein nice and high, and keeping carbs and bad fats low but ... then ... I end the day with an extra 250 calories I need to eat and what else is there? more fiber makes me constipated (yes, it's a thing), more protein usually just means an egg and a lot of dietary cholesterol, and more yogurt is too many carbs. So what do I eat? NNers, pls to help me.
― aka vanilla bean (remy bean), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 02:07 (twelve years ago) link
why did i not know this about green onions until now
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 02:15 (twelve years ago) link
eat some nuts! if you are not allergic to nuts! or nut butter. or just butter.
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 02:16 (twelve years ago) link
almond butter ftw
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 02:17 (twelve years ago) link
sometimes i mix a tbsp or two of almond butter with (organic, non-sulfite, unsweetened) shredded coconut and a bit of agave syrup. it is good.
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 02:18 (twelve years ago) link
i made some really delicious mung dahl tonight! with brown basmati rice. not super NN as far as carbs go, but i'm always amazed at how mung beans don't bother my digestive system like all other lentils/beans do. it's great.
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 02:20 (twelve years ago) link
Is there a green onIon shortage I'm not aware of? You are all quite ingenious!
Eating: bulghur, chick peas, and feta salad with green onions. Chopped the whole bunch so I cannot resprout.
― Virginia Plain, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 02:23 (twelve years ago) link
xp remy may i suggest you make these chocolate-cherry-chili-walnut-sea salt-black bean cookies? sure, they have sugar and oil, but they also have BEANS
http://vegantester.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/black-bean-cookies-info.png
― just1n3, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 02:24 (twelve years ago) link
rrrobyn do you have a recipe for mung dahl? lentils give me awful bowel probs, would love an alternative.
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 02:26 (twelve years ago) link
rrobyn, i should buy some good peanut butter. i have pb2 (defatted peanut butter – http://bellplantation.com/ ) but i do not have REAL PEANUTS and they sound so, so good.justine, those look delic. i crave cookies lately, and i've been staving off w/ dried apricots but... i might make an exception for those. i wonder if they will be very beany?
― aka vanilla bean (remy bean), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 02:31 (twelve years ago) link
Ooh Justine I want to make those! They look gooood.
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 02:32 (twelve years ago) link
so this is probably tmi and maybe not a nn question but lately whatever i eat for lunch (usually salad with lots of dark greens and veg and some chicken) or dinner (wide range of foods) makes my stomach extremely noisy. however, today i had sushi for lunch, and there was no noise. what does it mean!?
― tehresa, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 02:33 (twelve years ago) link
teh, i have been w/ a similar issue lately. i am wondering about two culprits: sugar free gum, and seltzer water. perhaps?
― aka vanilla bean (remy bean), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 02:36 (twelve years ago) link
i drink a ton of seltzer. but not at work/during the day, so i don't know how it'd connect to lunchtime (i can't see this being a problem that would occur when not consuming the bubbles).
― tehresa, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 02:38 (twelve years ago) link
remy, the thing is that YOU TOTALLY CAN'T TASTE THE BEANS!!! ikr it's totally crazy and i had to make them to believe it, and if there was even a mere whiff of a hint of microscopic taste of bean, i would know bc i am super fussy and complainy about food. but these are so good, my fav cookie actually. they aren't sweet really, they are very fudgey, and they benefit from a night in the fridge before eating. i don't think the original recipe mentions walnuts but DON'T skip them, they are so good.
― just1n3, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 02:45 (twelve years ago) link
they taste v v rich and decadent but while they are fairly calorie dense at around 250, they are also reasonably nutritious bc of the beans and cocoa and coconut. oh and def only used unrefined coconut oil, they don't taste right with the refined stuff.
― just1n3, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 02:46 (twelve years ago) link
i made a 'tangled thai salad' for dinner that was mostly nn. pretty tasty.
― just1n3, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 02:47 (twelve years ago) link
You guys know about black bean brownies, right?
― wolf kabob (ENBB), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 02:48 (twelve years ago) link
the cookie recipe is basically a brownie recipe, just made into cookies imo - you practically have to eat them with a fork bc they fall apart so easily.
― just1n3, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 02:51 (twelve years ago) link
the mung dahl i make is pretty basic - i use 1 cup of whole mung beans rinsed and soaked for several hours (or the quick way, simmer them for an hour or so), then fry some onion with garlic and ginger and curry powder, cumin, tumeric, cayenne maybe - then add beans plus 2-4 cups of water (depends on how well soaked/boiled the beans are already from the pre-soaking/boiling), bring to boil, then lower and let simmer until dahl-like goodness ensues. add salt. serve on top of basmati rice, with chutney of choice or not! this makes a lot of dahl btw.
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 02:51 (twelve years ago) link
the bonus of those cookies is the lack of flour. lots of trendy black bean baked goods still have lots of flour and stuff which kind of negates the healthy-ish aspect.
― just1n3, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 02:52 (twelve years ago) link
The black bean brownie thing is that if you're feeling lazy but want something warm and chocolaty and maybe not horrendously bad for you, you can just mix a box of any kind of brownie mix (reg, no pudge, natural - whatever) with a can of black beans and forget all the other stuff it tells you to add like eggs or oil. Just one can of black beans. Bake as per the directions and you get gooey delicious brownies that taste nothing like beans.
― wolf kabob (ENBB), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 02:54 (twelve years ago) link
a friend makes black bean brownies. i can taste the beans... but they are good anyway, in their way - but yeah, they have flour in them anyway and sugar, so i'm like, why not just make regular brownies? anyway, my NN way doesn't include beans (except mung) - and that includes peanuts and peanut butter. exception being certain burritos found in california! because the super long soaking/cooking of burrito black beans does something magically digestive to them!
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 02:56 (twelve years ago) link
I have only made the bean brownies 2x but they were good although I think I'm sort of with you on the why not just make brownies thing. After I while I sort of thought I could taste the beans a little bit but then figured that's because I was thinking about it too hard maybe.
― wolf kabob (ENBB), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 02:58 (twelve years ago) link
probably not enough cocoa?
― just1n3, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 03:02 (twelve years ago) link
i think have all the ingredients to make those cookies right now...
3 days this week, lunch = kale saladtoday, lunch = almonds, green tea
Sigh.
― drawn to them like a moth toward a spanakopita (Laurel), Friday, 16 March 2012 18:42 (twelve years ago) link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Taubes
do u nazis have opinions about this guy?
― goole, Friday, 16 March 2012 18:58 (twelve years ago) link
Taube's argument that refined carbs are responsible (through acquired insulin resistance) for the modern obesity epidemic is close to, but IMHO misses the mark and could lead to worse outcomes than mere obesity. The "energy balance" 1st law of dieting Taube's rejects remains true (you can eat a restricted diet of Twinkies and lose weight) but there's definitely a kernel of truth that the moderned refined/processed food diet is awful. Dr. Lustig in Sugar: The Bitter Truth has a cogent (and IMO, better) argument that its the high consumption of fructose (in HFCS, but also table sugar and fruit juice) leads to de novo lipogenesis and interferes with normal appetite satiation through the leptin hormone path.
On the other hand, there are plenty of cultures that historically eaten plenty of starches like white bread, rice & potatoes and remain thin with little vascular disease and lower cancer incidence (though they tend to suffer from diseases of poverty from poor sanitation and lack of micronutrients). In one an interesting (though dated) study, mildly overweight men lost 19 lbs in 8 weeks after adding 12 slices of white bread to their daily diet - I've seen other studies like this and it suggests that while white flour is a pretty empty calorie, its clearly is displacing worse culprits. Basically, starch is pretty innocuous as empty calories go.
My main concern with Taubes is not so much that his conclusion that refined carbs are the smoking gun is wrong, but that his argument used to support high-protein / high-saturated fat diets like Atkins that have clear negative consequences for long term health. Micheal Pollan's summary "Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants." remains a succinct summary of the science.
― Pauper Management Improved (Sanpaku), Friday, 16 March 2012 20:03 (twelve years ago) link
sanpaku people usually say this with derision but i am 100% not kidding: do you have a newsletter i could subscribe to?
― goole, Friday, 16 March 2012 20:05 (twelve years ago) link
Sanpaku Weekly Digest!
― Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Friday, 16 March 2012 20:06 (twelve years ago) link
this is the view I subscribe to so I can continue to eat pasta and rice
― flagp∞st (dayo), Friday, 16 March 2012 20:07 (twelve years ago) link
I have no special expertise but i have been coping with a (very) minor skin condition with no known cure that i hypothesize has something to do with diet and nutrition. so i've tried a lot of different approaches. unfortunately the one that seems most successful is also by far the hardest (for me anyway): the "raw food" diet.
― ryan, Friday, 16 March 2012 20:14 (twelve years ago) link
my sister in law has been diagnosed with MS and a modified raw food diet seems to have helped her control some of her symptoms to an extent.
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 16 March 2012 21:12 (twelve years ago) link
update: my sprouting onions look quite green and healthy
― flagp∞st (dayo), Friday, 16 March 2012 23:48 (twelve years ago) link
can you do the green onion thing forever? like is there a point where they just give up?
― are chads electorate (brownie), Saturday, 17 March 2012 00:09 (twelve years ago) link
no they are perpetual onions
― flagp∞st (dayo), Saturday, 17 March 2012 00:11 (twelve years ago) link
but only if you buy the variety 'evergreen onions'
― flagp∞st (dayo), Saturday, 17 March 2012 00:12 (twelve years ago) link
make your green onions sprout forever using this one weird trick
the green onionhood forever
― catbus otm (gbx), Saturday, 17 March 2012 00:39 (twelve years ago) link
down with deciduous onions
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 17 March 2012 01:24 (twelve years ago) link
it's like basil plants, right. they tell you it can't re-spawn but you can keep it going on a kinda lower-energy cycle for a while, growing smaller leaves.
― john-claude van donne (schlump), Saturday, 17 March 2012 10:41 (twelve years ago) link
I planted green onions from seed yesterday, but will also try the sprouting thing with some stuff I have in the fridge.
Currently on the stove: soup with homemade chicken stock along with onion, carrot, celery, orange pepper, tomato, cabbage, and kale. Oh and just a tiny bit (one slice) of bacon. Also garbanzo beans, gonna chuck some macaroni in there as well.
NN question: are corn tortillas considered wholep-grain? Also, is pho NN? 'Cause if pho is wrong, I don't want to be right.
― quincie, Sunday, 18 March 2012 17:41 (twelve years ago) link
Just don't drink the broth like a crazy westerner. Pho is high calorie, but pretty not bad
― aka vanilla bean (remy bean), Sunday, 18 March 2012 17:49 (twelve years ago) link
Just don't drink the best part? Have you met me?
― Marilyn Hagerty: the terroir of tiny town (Abbbottt), Sunday, 18 March 2012 17:52 (twelve years ago) link
the broth is crazy sodium-y, no?
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 18 March 2012 17:56 (twelve years ago) link
drink more water
― flagp∞st (dayo), Sunday, 18 March 2012 17:58 (twelve years ago) link