― Alba (Alba), Friday, 29 July 2005 11:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 29 July 2005 11:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― Stew (stew s), Friday, 29 July 2005 11:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― scotstvo (scotstvo), Friday, 29 July 2005 11:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Friday, 29 July 2005 11:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― scotstvo (scotstvo), Friday, 29 July 2005 11:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 29 July 2005 11:33 (eighteen years ago) link
I once heard of a guy at Celtic Park saying "aw naw er Annoni on an aw noo" which is brilliant if you say it quickly.
(trans: Oh no! There's Annoni* on as well now)(*Enrico Annoni: pish Italian defender who was once Celtic's highest earner)
― Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 29 July 2005 11:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 29 July 2005 11:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― Anna (Anna), Friday, 29 July 2005 13:37 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.scottish.parliament.uk/vli/language/scots/index.htm
It's pure mad n'at huvvin yer ain pairliment n'at ay?
― Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 29 July 2005 14:34 (eighteen years ago) link
Even better than "Glaswegian Windoos" or whatever it was called.
― Masonic Boom (kate), Friday, 29 July 2005 14:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 29 July 2005 14:40 (eighteen years ago) link
That makes the linguist in me roll over on my back and waggle my arms and legs in the air with joy!
― Masonic Boom (kate), Friday, 29 July 2005 14:41 (eighteen years ago) link
Awright troops!
― Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 29 July 2005 14:54 (eighteen years ago) link
(And FWIW, Scots is not just a "Translated for Neds" type dialect - it is actually a separate language, related to Old English/Anglo Saxon but with more Scandinavian influence and less Norman.)
― Masonic Boom (kate), Friday, 29 July 2005 14:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Friday, 29 July 2005 15:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― Masonic Boom (kate), Friday, 29 July 2005 15:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― Cathy (Cathy), Friday, 29 July 2005 15:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― KeefW (kmw), Friday, 29 July 2005 15:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― Masonic Boom (kate), Friday, 29 July 2005 15:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Friday, 29 July 2005 15:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― Mädchen (Madchen), Friday, 29 July 2005 15:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Friday, 29 July 2005 15:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― Cathy (Cathy), Friday, 29 July 2005 15:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Friday, 29 July 2005 15:33 (eighteen years ago) link
There's more linguistic, grammatical and vocabulary evidence - as well as historical - that English and Scots are different languages than, say, Swedish and Norwegian.
x-post, I am such a linguistic pedant, sigh.
― Masonic Boom (kate), Friday, 29 July 2005 15:34 (eighteen years ago) link
x-post
I can't see any real grammatical difference at all, based on the page linked to above. It's just spelling and the odd bit of vocabulary.
― Cathy (Cathy), Friday, 29 July 2005 15:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Friday, 29 July 2005 15:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― frankiemachine, Friday, 29 July 2005 15:47 (eighteen years ago) link
Yes, all that is true. But why the but? Let them!
― Alba (Alba), Friday, 29 July 2005 15:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Friday, 29 July 2005 15:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― KeefW (kmw), Friday, 29 July 2005 15:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Friday, 29 July 2005 15:54 (eighteen years ago) link
x-post: Saying that Scots is a dialect of English kind of sounds like "well English was here first and the Scots just starting speaking it all weird". Of course, I don't think that.
― Cathy (Cathy), Friday, 29 July 2005 16:04 (eighteen years ago) link
Yes. Reading Tore Janson's book about language Speak, one of the things that struck me was how important this aspect is, how when nation/empire building, stamping out regional dialects/languages in a draconian way often does achieve its aim, even in the long-term. Without it, countries do fail to gel as nations. I often get all confused about where my sympathies lie when it comes to nationalism.
― Alba (Alba), Friday, 29 July 2005 16:11 (eighteen years ago) link
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― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Friday, 29 July 2005 16:22 (eighteen years ago) link
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― Cathy (Cathy), Friday, 29 July 2005 16:26 (eighteen years ago) link
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― KeefW (kmw), Friday, 29 July 2005 18:41 (eighteen years ago) link
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― Onimo (GerryNemo), Saturday, 30 July 2005 07:34 (eighteen years ago) link