xps, I found Beijing and Shanghai super-easy to negotiate despite not speaking any Mandarin. Shanghai's probably easier to get in to and out of - iirc Beijing's main airport is a fair distance out and Shanghai has a Maglev connecting the airport to the centre.
Food shouldn't be a problem - they're both international cities with a lot of foreign visitors. Shanghai feels more cosmopolitan and would probably be more manageable in a few days.
― Une semaine de Bunty (ShariVari), Saturday, 10 March 2012 20:27 (fourteen years ago)
Shanghai has a Maglev connecting the airport to the centre.
at the time i was there, it was the fastest one in the world. not sure if that's still true but it's reaaaally fun.
― 1986 Olive Garden (Z S), Saturday, 10 March 2012 20:29 (fourteen years ago)
yeah I guess I'm worried about eating at touristy places that aren't great just b/c I don't know my way around & don't speak the language (hold no currency)
I mean I'm in France now & my French isn't great but I eat ridically well b/c I've been here so many times, & I'd love to have a similar experience in China b/c of e.g. this thread but but but
― Euler, Saturday, 10 March 2012 20:30 (fourteen years ago)
the shanghai maglev caught on fire once!
― flagp∞st (dayo), Saturday, 10 March 2012 20:32 (fourteen years ago)
xp, tbh, you can eat really well by going to a night market and just pointing at things. Lots of less touristy places will still have picture menus.
― Une semaine de Bunty (ShariVari), Saturday, 10 March 2012 20:34 (fourteen years ago)
just want to add that xi'an has deep fucking local food culture. serious food destination imho.
also just spend those extra days in shanghai. take the superfast train out to xi'an.
― dylannn, Sunday, 11 March 2012 00:16 (fourteen years ago)
http://www.chinaculture.org/gb/cn_zgwh/2004-06/28/content_52130.htm
i wish u could all read chinese or there was a good translation of this. great miniessays on shaanxi food by jia pingwa.
― dylannn, Sunday, 11 March 2012 00:20 (fourteen years ago)
<i>They say southerners are meticulous and northerners are crude. If that's true, then northwesterners are even more crude, even more rough. Their language is thick, rich with falling tones. Men are swarthy and it's rare to find a girl with a narrow waist. And the cuisine is vibrant; light on the sugar but heavy on the salt. Ah, this blessed land. Shaanxi! North: the yellow loess plateaus. In the middle: the Wei River plains. Heading south, the Qinling Mountains begin to rise. Looking over the vast banquet of Shaanxi cuisine, most of it seems to come from the palace kitchens of earlier ages, the estates of the Tang bureaucrats, and then from the tables of the commoners, and then the minority peoples of the province add a few dishes, and we get a few of the famous dishes from the city restaurants. It looks like the food of the north, but there are a few differences. Of course, in my hometown (a place that I've played at writing into my fiction), we never saw any great banquets or ate extravagant dishes. But as I've wandered around the province, I've eaten</i> xiaochi <i>like an anthropologist collecting folk songs. Just like folk songs, these</i> xiaochi <i>let you understand a little bit about where they came from. So, as I've got a moment of free time and can put together a sentence or two, I ventured to write down what little I know about each dish. Think of it as an unpaid advertisement, and I'll think of it as a chance to relive the experience of sitting down to eat each dish, a chance to see if I can recall the particular flavor of all those minor delicacies.</i>
― dylannn, Sunday, 11 March 2012 00:22 (fourteen years ago)
FUCK BB CODE
They say southerners are meticulous and northerners are crude. If that's true, then northwesterners are even more crude, even more rough. Their language is thick, rich with falling tones. Men are swarthy and it's rare to find a girl with a narrow waist. And the cuisine is vibrant; light on the sugar but heavy on the salt. Ah, this blessed land. Shaanxi! North: the yellow loess plateaus. In the middle: the Wei River plains. Heading south, the Qinling Mountains begin to rise. Looking over the vast banquet of Shaanxi cuisine, most of it seems to come from the palace kitchens of earlier ages, the estates of the Tang bureaucrats, and then from the tables of the commoners, and then the minority peoples of the province add a few dishes, and we get a few of the famous dishes from the city restaurants. It looks like the food of the north, but there are a few differences. Of course, in my hometown (a place that I've played at writing into my fiction), we never saw any great banquets or ate extravagant dishes. But as I've wandered around the province, I've eaten xiaochi like an anthropologist collecting folk songs. Just like folk songs, these xiaochi let you understand a little bit about where they came from. So, as I've got a moment of free time and can put together a sentence or two, I ventured to write down what little I know about each dish. Think of it as an unpaid advertisement, and I'll think of it as a chance to relive the experience of sitting down to eat each dish, a chance to see if I can recall the particular flavor of all those minor delicacies.
― dylannn, Sunday, 11 March 2012 00:23 (fourteen years ago)
http://www.binglang.info/Storage/FCKPro/Files/%E5%87%89%E7%9A%AE%281%29.jpg
xi'an specialty, liang pi'r
― dylannn, Sunday, 11 March 2012 00:26 (fourteen years ago)
http://img.huashanly.com/1001/1298861573433.jpg
― dylannn, Sunday, 11 March 2012 00:29 (fourteen years ago)
heeeeeeey didn't david chang invent that
― flagp∞st (dayo), Sunday, 11 March 2012 00:33 (fourteen years ago)
; )
<IMG SRC="http://www.dx.gansu.gov.cn/cn/rootimages/2011/05/21/1305852833341099-1305852833343171.jpg">
羊肉泡motherfuckin馍
― dylannn, Sunday, 11 March 2012 00:36 (fourteen years ago)
god.
http://www.dx.gansu.gov.cn/cn/rootimages/2011/05/21/1305852833341099-1305852833343171.jpg
http://food.chinese.cn/image/attachement/jpg/site2/20110118/0023ae99e1440e9f4de807.jpg
辣子蒜羊血
spicy garlicky lambsblood
― dylannn, Sunday, 11 March 2012 00:38 (fourteen years ago)
meet u in xi'an bro
― dylannn, Sunday, 11 March 2012 00:39 (fourteen years ago)
hell yeah xi'an
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2347/2529658427_a8875b227c.jpg
― lukas, Sunday, 11 March 2012 19:13 (fourteen years ago)
hah I've never had the egg variation
dayo, are your folks not from TW? It's like a staple there.
― Nude Gingrich (Leee), Sunday, 11 March 2012 19:31 (fourteen years ago)
Euler, I went to Xi'an 10 (!) years ago (I remember the year vividly because the Giants were in the WS and I had to watch it at same janky time) and the local delicacy of choice, as far as I could determine, is Baked Bun Soaked in Mutton Soup (romanized as Yang Rou Pao Mo). Hopefully they've cleaned up the air since then -- awful smog problem there when I went.
(Another vivid non-food memory is of a kid, probably 6-7 years old, standing alone on the thin median strip waiting to cross through heavy traffic.)
― Nude Gingrich (Leee), Sunday, 11 March 2012 19:38 (fourteen years ago)
oh man this is helping! I'm sure the air will still be awful but in Xi'an I'd be with locals + Westerners who speak the language / study the culture & go there often. mostly I'm wimpy about making my way in the big cities in the east, but prob I should just do it.
― Euler, Sunday, 11 March 2012 19:40 (fourteen years ago)
― Nude Gingrich (Leee), Sunday, March 11, 2012 3:31 PM (56 minutes ago) Bookmark
nah they are from peking!
― flagp∞st (dayo), Sunday, 11 March 2012 20:28 (fourteen years ago)
i'm sure you'll still find the air obscenely bad.
in the last 10 years, traffic has only got worse + crazy sprawl + it'll be hot and humid and the air will be like parking your car in a sauna and rolling down the windows.
xi'an is not a beautiful city.
― dylannn, Monday, 12 March 2012 03:12 (fourteen years ago)
wtf is this why don't I have some
― Waxahachie Swap (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 12 March 2012 03:26 (fourteen years ago)
tripe?
wheat gluten iirc
― flagp∞st (dayo), Monday, 12 March 2012 03:27 (fourteen years ago)
it looks spicy and delicious
― Waxahachie Swap (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 12 March 2012 03:29 (fourteen years ago)
the broad strips are some kind of 凉粉 I imagine
― flagp∞st (dayo), Monday, 12 March 2012 03:29 (fourteen years ago)
the brainy looking stuff is 烤麸 I think, a kind of wheat gluten
http://i.imgur.com/So3jq.jpg
― flagp∞st (dayo), Monday, 12 March 2012 03:31 (fourteen years ago)
http://i.imgur.com/pl9J8.jpg
― flagp∞st (dayo), Monday, 12 March 2012 03:37 (fourteen years ago)
http://i.imgur.com/1XDE5.jpg
― flagp∞st (dayo), Monday, 12 March 2012 03:42 (fourteen years ago)
its liangpir 凉皮儿 dude http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liang_pi
― dylannn, Monday, 12 March 2012 04:27 (fourteen years ago)
wheat flour, baking soda, salt + water -- mix into a paste -- put in cheesecloth and steam -- slice it up into those noodle things -- mix with black vinegar, sesame sauce, chili oil etc
liangpir specialty places in the middle of summer are full of broads. it's fucking good. i love it ice cold and spicy/sour/salty/sweet.
― dylannn, Monday, 12 March 2012 04:31 (fourteen years ago)
http://www.lovemshi.net/UploadFiles/2010-04/admin/2010041816312252411.jpg
ate this tonight braised spicy duck headsssss
― dylannn, Monday, 12 March 2012 04:44 (fourteen years ago)
i like this thread and wanted to ask about like... what sites are good for these kind of recipes? there's a really friendly and cool chinese supermarket near me now and i would like to make use of it a bit more - any general recommendation of stuff I should look out for would be really good. i've been experimenting with this and that but of course there lots of things stocked that i've no real idea about what they are.
― I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 16:32 (fourteen years ago)
christ this thread is making me hungry
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 17:34 (fourteen years ago)
hey LG i've found this blog pretty good - http://sunflower-recipes.blogspot.com/
― just sayin, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 19:02 (fourteen years ago)
ah cool, thanks a lot.
― I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 20:20 (fourteen years ago)
as a vegetarian i enjoy how the terrifying entrail looking things in this thread are always wheat gluten, and how the completely anonymous things are calcified blood or kidney mash or pancreas cakes
― bosomy English rose (thomp), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 22:51 (fourteen years ago)
dayo this is a delicious thread thank u
― a little tiny crunk person (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 22:52 (fourteen years ago)
^_^
― flagp∞st (dayo), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 23:07 (fourteen years ago)
one time i went to dim sum and ate like five rectangular patties (about 1/2" thick each) of what i thought was tofu before my friends informed me it was like long-stewed skin of some sort ... don't remember if it was pig or shark or cow or what
does that sound right?
― the late great, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 23:08 (fourteen years ago)
or were they jerking me around?
hooray, that blog looks interesting and has a recipe for 魚香肉絲 which is pictured upthread and which various Chinese restaurants round here call "sea spicy shredded pork" - suspect the local variety is not very authentic but we like it, anyway
http://sunflower-recipes.blogspot.com/2008/09/fish-fragrant-pork.html
from its name I thought it had fish sauce in but it seems not?
― instant coffee happening between us (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 23:25 (fourteen years ago)
― the late great, Tuesday, March 13, 2012 7:08 PM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark
description makes me think of radish cakes
http://i.imgur.com/O3tCh.jpg
but there is also 'tofu skin'
http://i.imgur.com/xt4vd.jpg
― flagp∞st (dayo), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 23:41 (fourteen years ago)
could also be a tofu skin roll
http://i.imgur.com/FVnKW.jpg
― flagp∞st (dayo), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 23:42 (fourteen years ago)
i think the fuschia dunlop books are good if u want to cook the food from this thread mostly because even if they are based on hunan/sichuan etc. they discuss crucial cooking methods at length and give you a good idea of how "real chinese food" can be reproduced.
― dylannn, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 00:39 (fourteen years ago)
yeah sounds like radish cake, man
http://static0.enjoyoung.cn/images/assets/Image/articles%20photo/20100224%E7%8C%AA%E7%9A%AE.jpg = pork skin
― dylannn, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 00:41 (fourteen years ago)
http://image4.club.sohu.com/pic/3a/a3/5be83a57eb26682929d3bf45e5b4a33a.jpg
http://www.techan-cn.com/uploads/allimg/110725/163025N58-0.jpg
anything like that?
― dylannn, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 00:42 (fourteen years ago)