2012 republican presidential nominee IV: NEEDS MORE BOOING

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pourmecoffee ‏ @pourmecoffee
Romney win in Virginia sends strong message that voters prefer candidates who get on the f---ing ballot.

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:27 (fourteen years ago)

one explanation often proffered by political scientists as to why obama and other presidents dont stay in super destructo campaign mode 24/7 is that its detrimental to policy goals, studies have shown that when the president uses the oft pined for bully pulpit it more likely than not will serve only to polarize the debate over whatever pending legislation were talking abt thereby reducing its chances of passing, the on again off again ass kicking which plays well to voters but not legislators is m/l a feature of our particular form of government and political climate

― lag∞n, Tuesday, March 6, 2012 6:59 PM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well 1) lol @ political "scientists" who have like 5 presidents worth of data with which to work but yeah i don't think bamma using the bully pulpit is some sort of panacea, its usefulness probably depends more on the popularity of the president than anything else if i had to guess, otoh i don't see how we could become any more polarized than we are now, or how it would even affect things one way or another, so i say go for it for our sakes/the lols

bron paul (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:29 (fourteen years ago)

I think people looking it with 5 presidents worth of data is better than people looking at it with their own imaginary logic about how things work

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:31 (fourteen years ago)

works remarkably well for me

meticulously showcased in a stunning fart presentation (contenderizer), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:32 (fourteen years ago)

imaginary logic is the best kind of logic

be scientific, douchebag (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:39 (fourteen years ago)

I think people looking it with 5 presidents worth of data is better than people looking at it with their own imaginary logic about how things work

― iatee, Tuesday, March 6, 2012 7:31 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:40 (fourteen years ago)

oh no doubt but my armchair logic relatively speaking is more sound than saying like maybe vaccines cause autism

bron paul (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:41 (fourteen years ago)

Romney gets Virginia and Vermont

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:41 (fourteen years ago)

otoh i don't see how we could become any more polarized than we are now, or how it would even affect things one way or another, so i say go for it for our sakes/the lols

― bron paul (k3vin k.), Tuesday, March 6, 2012 7:29 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well one thing is a lot of legislation that actual becomes law is bipartisan and gets crafted behind closed doors and then rushed through congress before it can get politicized so in that formulation the president being all 'hey theres this wonderful bill in committee' is not really helpful, unless hes using reverse psychology and he really hates it

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:43 (fourteen years ago)

feel the mittmentum!

the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:43 (fourteen years ago)

idk how we got to talking about this, anyway in this climate i don't think any pres can really influence major policy on most issues requiring him to work w/ congress, i was just sayin

bron paul (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:44 (fourteen years ago)

also five presidents isnt just five data points, its thousands

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:44 (fourteen years ago)

obama should make santorum win some primaries using bully pulpit

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:47 (fourteen years ago)

Is there any indication that Romney's flip-floppery has done him any quantifiable harm? I mean, assuming his current platform completely synced up with my beliefs, I'd really have no basis for believing that would continue being the case for any appreciable amount of time based on his ever-shifting politics. Yet he still has supporters. So going after him on the basis of his self-contradictions sadly seems like a non-starter. I mean, everyone surely knows that about him now, right?

Offal Waffle (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:52 (fourteen years ago)

it's not a non-starter, he's had a really rough primary season and only won this because everyone around him would be considered a crazy streetperson in any other developed western country

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:54 (fourteen years ago)

ugggh mitt. now we get four more years (assuming obama wins) of angry baby-men whining about establishment RINOs

it's smdh time in America (will), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:55 (fourteen years ago)

no it's good it means they will run crazy people and lose winnable elections again

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:59 (fourteen years ago)

Josh Marshall ‏ @joshtpm Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Latest exits show it getting really tight in Ohio. Just +1 for Mitt.

rick has life yet! maybe!

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:02 (fourteen years ago)

No he doesn't. It'll be spun as a referendum on Romney though.

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:03 (fourteen years ago)

man rick santorum is for real u dont even know

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:04 (fourteen years ago)

One of my guys won gold in badminton today. The only thing that could make me happier now is an outpouring of Super Tuesday love for Mitt.

clemenza, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:05 (fourteen years ago)

I don't think it's possible for Santorum to get that magic delegate number no matter what.

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:09 (fourteen years ago)

no he is done 4, the question is whether he can keep being a pest

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:10 (fourteen years ago)

thats what they said abt another guy and his name was jesus christ

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:11 (fourteen years ago)

Is there any indication that Romney's flip-floppery has done him any quantifiable harm?

depends on what you mean by "quantifiable" but I know a lot of Republicans who don't trust Romney specifically because of his prior stances that he has "flip-flopped" on, e.g. Romneycare

I really really hate flip-flop as a political term btw

Big Mr. Guess U.S.A. Champion (crüt), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:13 (fourteen years ago)

yeah it's pretty awful but I don't think it's going anywhere

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:14 (fourteen years ago)

I remember during 2004 being like 'are you seriously gonna keep saying that word' but at this point who cares

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:15 (fourteen years ago)

Supposedly it's hurt him badly with independents...whatever they are.

clemenza, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:16 (fourteen years ago)

injuring yr opponents integrity is prob the most effective attack in all politics

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:16 (fourteen years ago)

cause voters knowing politicians never do what they say theyre gonna vote based on what kind of guy they are, studies show

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:17 (fourteen years ago)

That's why Newt fell apart--his legendary integrity was badly dented.

clemenza, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:18 (fourteen years ago)

obama's whole campaign should be him in bars getting beers w/ people w/ lots of attack ads about 'why doesn't mitt romney get beers with people'

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:19 (fourteen years ago)

That's why Newt fell apart--his legendary integrity was badly dented.

― clemenza, Tuesday, March 6, 2012 8:18 PM (32 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well it didnt take much reminding is why romneys attacks were so effective

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:19 (fourteen years ago)

btw this guy left office as a national disgrace

oh right thaaat guy

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:20 (fourteen years ago)

obama's whole campaign should be him in bars getting beers w/ people w/ lots of attack ads about 'why doesn't mitt romney get beers with people'

― iatee, Tuesday, March 6, 2012 8:19 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this would culminate in a nationally televised beer pong match the week before the election

which actually might be an improvement over the republican debates

bron paul (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:21 (fourteen years ago)

Interview with Palin on CNN as she votes. Every little thing she does is magic.

clemenza, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:21 (fourteen years ago)

beer pong match might win over some fratty republicans

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:22 (fourteen years ago)

(unless he sucks)

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:22 (fourteen years ago)

yeah feel like that would be big for the wall st donations

bron paul (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:23 (fourteen years ago)

I really really hate flip-flop as a political term btw

I totally agree when it's used indiscriminately for every instance of someone changing their position on an issue. I really don't have a problem with its use, however, to describe opportunistic douchebags with no core values shifting their position to suit whichever way the wind is blowing at the moment.

Offal Waffle (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:34 (fourteen years ago)

idk you guys used to like flip flopping

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:35 (fourteen years ago)

I was against the term before I was for it.

clemenza, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:35 (fourteen years ago)

In Miami we use "chank" instead of flip-flop to denote thong sandals. It comes from the Spanish word "chancleta."

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:36 (fourteen years ago)

I really really hate flip-flop as a political term btw

otm x billions

mookieproof, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:37 (fourteen years ago)

i don't understand how ppl can stand to watch cable television election coverage. it is literally painful to hear, no matter which station you're tuned to. WHYY wisely broadcasting Patti LaBelle performing at the Borgata Hotel in AC instead.

Mordy, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:38 (fourteen years ago)

I hate flip-flops in general.

Santorum wins Tennessee.

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:38 (fourteen years ago)

for once i feel like my vote meant something

it's smdh time in America (will), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:40 (fourteen years ago)

Happy for that, but I don't get how Romney finishes ahead of Gingrich there--shouldn't Gingrich do well everywhere in the south?

clemenza, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:42 (fourteen years ago)

interview with palin on cnn = cnn going out of their way to put a reporter at the alaska caucus to mess with fox, by getting an exclusive interview with their paid contributor

omg loooool @ gingrich using the hulk hogan theme song

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:42 (fourteen years ago)

omg Newt Posters are a gas pump with "2.50"

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:42 (fourteen years ago)


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