2012 republican presidential nominee IV: NEEDS MORE BOOING

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btw our form of government is lo qual

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:00 (twelve years ago) link

god bless em, man was a natural

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:02 (twelve years ago) link

so MSNBC was just showing a series of clips of Romney talking about how Obamacare is based on his Massachusetts plan and how he was glad he was doing it. why haven't the other candidates used these more?

― stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Tuesday, March 6, 2012 5:43 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i read that they just hadnt found the clips maybe, its baffling

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:03 (twelve years ago) link

then again santorum/gingrich/paul have like ten campaign staff between them

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:03 (twelve years ago) link

They were three or four on Hardball (I think) of him on Meet the Press as well as other major broadcast networks. How can anyone NOT dig those up earlier? xpost

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:05 (twelve years ago) link

I can't wait for another witty president like Reagan! Thumbs up anybody??

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Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:05 (twelve years ago) link

Well it's out there now, and maybe it's too late for the other candidates to beat up on Romney, but it significantly weakens his anti-Obamacare stance in the general. xpost

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:05 (twelve years ago) link

yeah its mystifying idgi either

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:08 (twelve years ago) link

Gingrich has won Georgia (shock)

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:14 (twelve years ago) link

Well it's out there now, and maybe it's too late for the other candidates to beat up on Romney, but it significantly weakens his anti-Obamacare stance in the general. xpost

― stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Tuesday, March 6, 2012 6:05 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i do wonder how obama's gonna play this. "i preferred you before you were running for president, when you agreed with me."

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:20 (twelve years ago) link

or is obama going to run from his own legislation?

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:20 (twelve years ago) link

Probably not since he's not a total idiot.

Mordy, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:21 (twelve years ago) link

we are all fated in life to wander around disappointed, punctuated by brief moments of narcotic delusiveness.

― Mordy, Tuesday, March 6, 2012 6:38 PM (41 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

merely the stars' tennis balls iirc

bron paul (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:21 (twelve years ago) link

romney is p well known for flip flopping iirc

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:22 (twelve years ago) link

get your own abbrev bro

bron paul (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:24 (twelve years ago) link

sry

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:26 (twelve years ago) link

pourmecoffee ‏ @pourmecoffee
Romney win in Virginia sends strong message that voters prefer candidates who get on the f---ing ballot.

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:27 (twelve years ago) link

one explanation often proffered by political scientists as to why obama and other presidents dont stay in super destructo campaign mode 24/7 is that its detrimental to policy goals, studies have shown that when the president uses the oft pined for bully pulpit it more likely than not will serve only to polarize the debate over whatever pending legislation were talking abt thereby reducing its chances of passing, the on again off again ass kicking which plays well to voters but not legislators is m/l a feature of our particular form of government and political climate

― lag∞n, Tuesday, March 6, 2012 6:59 PM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well 1) lol @ political "scientists" who have like 5 presidents worth of data with which to work but yeah i don't think bamma using the bully pulpit is some sort of panacea, its usefulness probably depends more on the popularity of the president than anything else if i had to guess, otoh i don't see how we could become any more polarized than we are now, or how it would even affect things one way or another, so i say go for it for our sakes/the lols

bron paul (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:29 (twelve years ago) link

I think people looking it with 5 presidents worth of data is better than people looking at it with their own imaginary logic about how things work

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:31 (twelve years ago) link

works remarkably well for me

meticulously showcased in a stunning fart presentation (contenderizer), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:32 (twelve years ago) link

imaginary logic is the best kind of logic

be scientific, douchebag (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:39 (twelve years ago) link

I think people looking it with 5 presidents worth of data is better than people looking at it with their own imaginary logic about how things work

― iatee, Tuesday, March 6, 2012 7:31 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:40 (twelve years ago) link

oh no doubt but my armchair logic relatively speaking is more sound than saying like maybe vaccines cause autism

bron paul (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:41 (twelve years ago) link

Romney gets Virginia and Vermont

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:41 (twelve years ago) link

otoh i don't see how we could become any more polarized than we are now, or how it would even affect things one way or another, so i say go for it for our sakes/the lols

― bron paul (k3vin k.), Tuesday, March 6, 2012 7:29 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well one thing is a lot of legislation that actual becomes law is bipartisan and gets crafted behind closed doors and then rushed through congress before it can get politicized so in that formulation the president being all 'hey theres this wonderful bill in committee' is not really helpful, unless hes using reverse psychology and he really hates it

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:43 (twelve years ago) link

feel the mittmentum!

idk how we got to talking about this, anyway in this climate i don't think any pres can really influence major policy on most issues requiring him to work w/ congress, i was just sayin

bron paul (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:44 (twelve years ago) link

also five presidents isnt just five data points, its thousands

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:44 (twelve years ago) link

obama should make santorum win some primaries using bully pulpit

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:47 (twelve years ago) link

Is there any indication that Romney's flip-floppery has done him any quantifiable harm? I mean, assuming his current platform completely synced up with my beliefs, I'd really have no basis for believing that would continue being the case for any appreciable amount of time based on his ever-shifting politics. Yet he still has supporters. So going after him on the basis of his self-contradictions sadly seems like a non-starter. I mean, everyone surely knows that about him now, right?

Offal Waffle (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:52 (twelve years ago) link

it's not a non-starter, he's had a really rough primary season and only won this because everyone around him would be considered a crazy streetperson in any other developed western country

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:54 (twelve years ago) link

ugggh mitt. now we get four more years (assuming obama wins) of angry baby-men whining about establishment RINOs

it's smdh time in America (will), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:55 (twelve years ago) link

no it's good it means they will run crazy people and lose winnable elections again

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:59 (twelve years ago) link

Josh Marshall ‏ @joshtpm Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Latest exits show it getting really tight in Ohio. Just +1 for Mitt.

rick has life yet! maybe!

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:02 (twelve years ago) link

No he doesn't. It'll be spun as a referendum on Romney though.

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:03 (twelve years ago) link

man rick santorum is for real u dont even know

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:04 (twelve years ago) link

One of my guys won gold in badminton today. The only thing that could make me happier now is an outpouring of Super Tuesday love for Mitt.

clemenza, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:05 (twelve years ago) link

I don't think it's possible for Santorum to get that magic delegate number no matter what.

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:09 (twelve years ago) link

no he is done 4, the question is whether he can keep being a pest

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:10 (twelve years ago) link

thats what they said abt another guy and his name was jesus christ

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:11 (twelve years ago) link

Is there any indication that Romney's flip-floppery has done him any quantifiable harm?

depends on what you mean by "quantifiable" but I know a lot of Republicans who don't trust Romney specifically because of his prior stances that he has "flip-flopped" on, e.g. Romneycare

I really really hate flip-flop as a political term btw

Big Mr. Guess U.S.A. Champion (crüt), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:13 (twelve years ago) link

yeah it's pretty awful but I don't think it's going anywhere

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:14 (twelve years ago) link

I remember during 2004 being like 'are you seriously gonna keep saying that word' but at this point who cares

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:15 (twelve years ago) link

Supposedly it's hurt him badly with independents...whatever they are.

clemenza, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:16 (twelve years ago) link

injuring yr opponents integrity is prob the most effective attack in all politics

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:16 (twelve years ago) link

cause voters knowing politicians never do what they say theyre gonna vote based on what kind of guy they are, studies show

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:17 (twelve years ago) link

That's why Newt fell apart--his legendary integrity was badly dented.

clemenza, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:18 (twelve years ago) link

obama's whole campaign should be him in bars getting beers w/ people w/ lots of attack ads about 'why doesn't mitt romney get beers with people'

iatee, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:19 (twelve years ago) link

That's why Newt fell apart--his legendary integrity was badly dented.

― clemenza, Tuesday, March 6, 2012 8:18 PM (32 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well it didnt take much reminding is why romneys attacks were so effective

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:19 (twelve years ago) link


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