this movie reminded me of David Lynch's worst qualities - airless, lifeless, jarring stunt cameos, immaculately shot and executed etc.... just this sense that the director has seldom been around human beings
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 4 March 2012 13:02 (twelve years ago) link
i liked it well enough, but much of the praise for it has made me wonder if i was missing something.
― RudolfHitlerFtw (Hungry4Ass), Sunday, 4 March 2012 13:28 (twelve years ago) link
Relevant to the interests of some of you:
http://ryangoslingvspuppy.tumblr.com/
― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Sunday, 4 March 2012 19:36 (twelve years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/suDIp.gif
― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Sunday, 4 March 2012 19:46 (twelve years ago) link
Is that pac man barfing or is it some kind of frog?
― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Sunday, 4 March 2012 20:09 (twelve years ago) link
The Missing Piece.
― Clancy Fans and Fancy Clans (Eazy), Sunday, 4 March 2012 20:28 (twelve years ago) link
Angelenos or other, tell me about that concrete channel beloved of driving scenes in this and other movies. Is it just the course of the Los Angeles River? How come it's so empty of water? Can one normally drive along it? Would one need a lever action shotgun to blast through gates closing it off?
― ledge, Monday, 12 March 2012 14:28 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b08DChU5qsg
― "marvellously inoffensive" (Eazy), Monday, 12 March 2012 14:48 (twelve years ago) link
But can you just get in there that easily? And not get in trouble with THE LAW? I wanna know!
― ledge, Monday, 12 March 2012 15:03 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i_qxQztHRI
― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 12 March 2012 15:10 (twelve years ago) link
Numerous films and television programs have featured various sites along the Los Angeles River, many of which involve the river as a sinister plot location. Films involving the river include The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension, Chinatown, Them!, Blue Thunder, Escape from L.A., Terminator 2: Judgment Day, Last Action Hero, Stand and Deliver, Grease, Volcano, Point Blank, Freaky Friday, Roadblock, Hot Rod Girl, Southland, Blood in Blood Out, Boomtown, This Christmas, Rize, The Core, Repo Man, The Italian Job, One Eight Seven, Point Break, Gone in 60 Seconds, Transformers, 24, Emergency!, The Gumball Rally, To Live and Die in L.A., The First Power, Purple Rain, L.A. Zombie, Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen, Drive, and High School High.
― ledge, Monday, 12 March 2012 15:12 (twelve years ago) link
A number of music videos have also been filmed at the Los Angeles River, including:"Stay The Night" - Chicago"Better Life" - Keith Urban"Burnin' for You" - Blue Öyster Cult"Youth Against Fascism" - Sonic Youth"So Hard" - Voice of the Beehive"It's Funky Enough" - The D.O.C. (1989)"Life is.. Too Short" - Too Short"The River" - Good Charlotte"Down" - Blink 182"Got the Life" - Korn"Wake Up Call" - Maroon 5"Under the Bridge" - Red Hot Chili Peppers"Don't Cha" - Pussycat Dolls"Say I" - Christina Milian feat. Young Jeezy"Wherever You Will Go" - The Calling"Get It Shawty" - Lloyd"Live Your Life" - T.I. feat. Rihanna (2008)"Straight Through My Heart" - Backstreet Boys"Cricketz" - New Boyz"Telephone" - Lady GaGa feat. Beyoncé (2010)"Deuces" - Chris Brown feat. Tyga and Kevin McCall (2010)"Gold Cobra" - Limp Bizkit (2011)"Our Deal" - Best Coast (2011)
― ledge, Monday, 12 March 2012 15:13 (twelve years ago) link
i cant believe no one has made a sweet ass youtube compilation of all the scenes ever shot in the l.a. river
― ⚓ (gr8080), Monday, 12 March 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago) link
― ledge, Monday, March 12, 2012 10:28 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark
ha i asked these exact question when i was watching this movie
― yolo ono (J0rdan S.), Monday, 12 March 2012 16:54 (twelve years ago) link
― ⚓ (gr8080), Monday, March 12, 2012 11:52 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i had this thought the other day when i finally saw this movie!
i thought it was pretty good, mostly because of the villains. and the robbery/driving scenes which were top-notch. i had a little fun pretending gosling was the same character from 'lars and the real girl'
thinking about it now, when the elevator doors close on carey mulligan, that's the last time she's seen, right?
― goole, Monday, 12 March 2012 17:00 (twelve years ago) link
Sadly no answers in this thread (xpost)
― ledge, Monday, 12 March 2012 20:13 (twelve years ago) link
Ledge, I posted your question on the L.A. thread...
― "marvellously inoffensive" (Eazy), Monday, 12 March 2012 20:30 (twelve years ago) link
Nah, we see her again in the coda hen she goes to The Driver's apartment door after he's left to meet w/Brooks.
― Mike Love Costume Jewelry on Etsy (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 12 March 2012 20:37 (twelve years ago) link
Xp cool. Hoping for the inside skinny.
― ledge, Monday, 12 March 2012 20:38 (twelve years ago) link
How come it's so empty of water?
lol
― Luomas (admrl), Monday, 12 March 2012 20:47 (twelve years ago) link
I bike in it often
― Luomas (admrl), Monday, 12 March 2012 20:48 (twelve years ago) link
― Mike Love Costume Jewelry on Etsy (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, March 12, 2012 4:37 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Totally cried at that part.
― wolf kabob (ENBB), Monday, 12 March 2012 20:49 (twelve years ago) link
Here's a cheat sheet for the video project:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles_River#Filming_location
― polyphonic, Monday, 12 March 2012 20:50 (twelve years ago) link
I am typing this about 30 feet from the LA river, are you amazed
― Luomas (admrl), Monday, 12 March 2012 20:54 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDEbj3ve8Ds
― buzza, Monday, 12 March 2012 21:00 (twelve years ago) link
ohhh right that part
― goole, Monday, 12 March 2012 21:58 (twelve years ago) link
xps
we should have an LA River youtube/photo thread
― ⚓ (gr8080), Monday, 12 March 2012 22:49 (twelve years ago) link
http://vimeo.com/14701473
― hbo with a shotgun (admrl), Monday, 12 March 2012 23:01 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OS8HFuyWKg
― caek, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 10:02 (twelve years ago) link
ust this sense that the director has seldom been around human beings
one of the most interesting things abt the movie, imo
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 22:47 (twelve years ago) link
He makes movies about male humans who don't interact with society in any sort of normal way, really
― mh, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 00:53 (twelve years ago) link
I mean, of the English language ones I've seen and Valhalla Rising
― mh, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 00:54 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MqJ3iGBdOo
― muus lääv? :D muus dut :( (Telephone thing), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 04:10 (twelve years ago) link
innocent, alienated, "natural" men who exist in but apart from civilized corruption, their brutality and simplicity a badge of their superiority. again, i see something troubling in this (i think i called it "quasi-fascist" upthread - that's overreaching and far too condemnatory), but the troubling-ness is of an interesting sort. valhalla rising is especially challenging in this regard, given its odinist/anti-christian sympathies and the way they intersect with the isolationist black metal that seems to have inspired it.
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 21:13 (twelve years ago) link
innocent, alienated, "natural" men who exist in but apart from civilized corruption, their brutality and simplicity a badge of their superiority
Bronson as role model?
― mh, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 21:14 (twelve years ago) link
I don't think it holds it up as an ideal as much as Bronson films generally did, nor as much as recent Mamet. There's an element of Taxi Driver wish-fulfillment here, as has been mentioned upthread. I just think of the look on Gosling's face after the elevator beat-down...confused, embarrassed, like a little boy.
― stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 21:17 (twelve years ago) link
No, I mean Refn's film Bronson
― mh, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 21:18 (twelve years ago) link
oh right. lol.
― stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 21:18 (twelve years ago) link
it works either way though
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 21:22 (twelve years ago) link
"role model" isn't the phrase i'd use. i'd instead call it "hero worship". refn's recent films are animated by an intense and abject kind of hero worship. the worship has elements of both son-in-relation-to-father (made explicit in both drive and valhalla rising) and sub-in-relation-to-dom, with all the intense eroticism former implies (made most explicit in bronson). the hero doesn't have to be morally "good" because his transgressions and power are what make him compelling. again evokes the allure of fascism...
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 22:15 (twelve years ago) link
I mostly disagree with this take although I find it somewhat entertaining
― mh, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 22:48 (twelve years ago) link
mission accomplished
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 22:53 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.esoterically.net/weblog/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/bush-mission-accomplished.jpg
^ or rather
the hero doesn't have to be morally "good" because his transgressions and power are what make him compelling.
this applies most obviously to bronson. both valhalla rising and drive go out of their way to emphasize the hero's basic decency. though scary, simple and brutal, these men are painted as morally superior to their peers. it's important to note though that, like bronson, their guiding principles are personal, "natural" and often strongly at odds with the expectations of civilized society. with this in mind, it's interesting that one eye and driver are both explicitly associated with animals, and that both movies strongly idealize nature as an environment for man.
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Thursday, 15 March 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link
Finally saw this at a late screening last night and found it to be a very enjoyable, incredibly well made, beautifully stylised very bad film. If that quote from Refn about archetypes is anything to go by, I think that was the point.
Also the bit at the end where Real Hero kicks in felt like an ironic nod to the audience because there is obviously nothing at ALL real about Ryan Gosling's character.
― Upt0eleven, Sunday, 18 March 2012 15:41 (twelve years ago) link
^ definitely an ironic nod
going to see 'bronson' later today at prob the same refn retrospective where you saw 'drive' last night, i'm guessing (nw film center in pdx?)
no idea what to expect, the previews make it seem like a guy ritchie flick or smthg but i'm expecting more. or else i wouldn't waste my $
― akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Sunday, 18 March 2012 19:51 (twelve years ago) link
its like if guy ritchie and john cameron mitchell made a movie together but it was awesome
― ⚓ (gr8080), Sunday, 18 March 2012 20:06 (twelve years ago) link
such an unpleasant movie
― Number None, Sunday, 18 March 2012 20:19 (twelve years ago) link
Sooo not like a Guy Ritchie film.
― mh, Sunday, 18 March 2012 20:23 (twelve years ago) link