I still think he should have been the real villain in the next Batman film
― valleys of your mind (mh), Thursday, 1 March 2012 16:35 (fourteen years ago)
xxpost Huh - I don't normally get into bro-down movies, and I sort of have Die Hard in my head as the buddy movie bullshit movie that even buddy movie bullshit haters love. But YMMV! I feel like you missed the best parts of the movie - the last chunk has most of the action and the crowd-pleasing payoffs but the middle is where the movie earns that, with Willis running scared and throwing around what bravado he's got just to keep from freaking out. And the buddy-movie connection with VelJohnson grows out of that really perfectly - they just kind of find each other on the radio, they're both powerless in the situation, but Powell is the steady shoulder McClane needs.
Without all that stuff it'd actually be a pretty boring movie, IMO, just a tough guy in air-ducts killing off faceless bad guys.
Not trying to convince you to watch it again of course, just working out as I'm typing why I love this movie so much. It's like Lean On Me: The Movie.
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 1 March 2012 16:38 (fourteen years ago)
Even more like Lean on Me: The Movie than Lean on Me, the movie?
http://i1.squidoocdn.com/resize/squidoo_images/250/draft_lens18403549module152800599photo_1314623406lean_on_me_morgan_freeman
― Jurgis Rudkus // Dick Butkus (Pillbox), Thursday, 1 March 2012 16:45 (fourteen years ago)
Just watched Bridge on the River Kwai last night for the first time.
O
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― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 March 2012 16:49 (fourteen years ago)
so KLASSIK
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 1 March 2012 16:50 (fourteen years ago)
love that movie!
Huh - I don't normally get into bro-down movies, and I sort of have Die Hard in my head as the buddy movie bullshit movie that even buddy movie bullshit haters love. But YMMV! I feel like you missed the best parts of the movie - the last chunk has most of the action and the crowd-pleasing payoffs but the middle is where the movie earns that, with Willis running scared and throwing around what bravado he's got just to keep from freaking out. And the buddy-movie connection with VelJohnson grows out of that really perfectly - they just kind of find each other on the radio, they're both powerless in the situation, but Powell is the steady shoulder McClane needs.
yeah it's kinda unfair to judge a movie having missed a chunk of it, but I woke up right when veljohnson showed up on the scene so I caught that whole character arc. the movie's pitch perfect in its execution but the stock characters piled up so quickly I couldn't get engaged. figured I must have missed the hooker with the heart of gold while I was asleep.
― I GUESS THAT CINNABON GETTIN EATEN (Edward III), Thursday, 1 March 2012 16:57 (fourteen years ago)
hahaha, okay, fair enough. I guess I'm a sucker for genre work that's well-executed with a couple of twists on the formula. Like, I don't mind that the Wrong-Headed Commanding Officer, for example, is a total off-the-shelf element, because he's easily the best Wrong-Headed Commanding Officer I've ever seen in a movie. Plus there's that one moment when he's totally blase about the FBI guys getting blown up that kind of makes him suddenly relatable. It reminds me of when some ILXor praised Marge Simpson joining in on the "you don't win friends with salad" chant - just instantly humanizes the character. Superficial humanization, yes, cheap crowd-pleasing humanization, sure, but hey, it's a popcorn movie and it delivers the goods.
I think the only thing I really don't like about the movie is the extended mano-a-mano with Godunov - that seems faceless, generic, and also a bit grimmer than the rest of the show.
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 1 March 2012 17:06 (fourteen years ago)
otm. it's weird 'cause I watch all sorts of grubby violent movies but earnestly cheery sadism like in the willis/gudunov fight, that macho joy of dominance, is a turn off. schwarzenegger could've made it work but he then again he wouldn't have been able to fit in the air shafts so I guess it's a wash.
― I GUESS THAT CINNABON GETTIN EATEN (Edward III), Thursday, 1 March 2012 17:22 (fourteen years ago)
xpost Rutger Hauer was an international superstar. It was movies like "Blade Runner" that brought him to America and, thus, made him international.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 March 2012 17:24 (fourteen years ago)
watched Ip Man last night on netflix. i don't know how japanese people feel about that movie, but the fight scenes were suitably, uh, endless. so there is that. i dug it.
― scott seward, Thursday, 1 March 2012 17:36 (fourteen years ago)
I meant leading man superstar, like he should've been on par with harrison ford, stallone, schwarzenegger, etc. but he never found the right vehicle and was stuck in b-movie direct-to-video hell by the 90s.
xp
― I GUESS THAT CINNABON GETTIN EATEN (Edward III), Thursday, 1 March 2012 17:38 (fourteen years ago)
i should have voted for blind fury. and the hitcher. NOT the ostermann weekend though.
― scott seward, Thursday, 1 March 2012 17:43 (fourteen years ago)
rutger was already in his 50's by the 90's. maybe action fame came too late. kinda crazy that a senior citizen would make hobo with a shotgun. but everyone has bills to pay. and i'm glad he made it.
― scott seward, Thursday, 1 March 2012 17:45 (fourteen years ago)
love how this has its own wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tears_in_rain_soliloquy
it is super heavy. i always tear up. i dunno what ridley scott was thinkin with the dove though.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 1 March 2012 17:46 (fourteen years ago)
Hauer described this as "opera talk" and "hi-tech speech" with no bearing on the rest of the film, so he "put a knife in it" the night before filming, without Scott's knowledge.[7] In interview with Dan Jolin, Hauer said that these final lines showed that Batty wanted to "make his mark on existence ... the robot in the final scene, by dying, shows Deckard what a real man is made of."[8]
When Hauer performed the scene, the film crew applauded and some even cried. This was due to the power of the dying speech coming at the end of an exhausting shoot.[9]
damn, rutger
― goole, Thursday, 1 March 2012 17:48 (fourteen years ago)
This was due to the power of the dying speech coming at the end of an exhausting shoot.[9]
― max, Thursday, 1 March 2012 17:50 (fourteen years ago)
The Power of The Dying Speech Coming At The End of An Exhausting Shoot is actually pretty underrated as far as e6 records go, honestly
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 1 March 2012 17:55 (fourteen years ago)
see, dude had instincts. coulda been one of the all-time greats.
watching it the other night I noticed for the first time how "time to die" echoes leon and batty saying the same thing to deckard earlier in the film.
― I GUESS THAT CINNABON GETTIN EATEN (Edward III), Thursday, 1 March 2012 17:55 (fourteen years ago)
also never noticed how terrible the music in blade runner is, ridley scott should've hired popol vuh
― I GUESS THAT CINNABON GETTIN EATEN (Edward III), Thursday, 1 March 2012 17:58 (fourteen years ago)
time to die
― Number None, Thursday, 1 March 2012 17:58 (fourteen years ago)
time to....
die.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 1 March 2012 18:01 (fourteen years ago)
― I GUESS THAT CINNABON GETTIN EATEN (Edward III), Thursday, March 1, 2012 12:58 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yo what
― max, Thursday, 1 March 2012 18:03 (fourteen years ago)
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/426451_10150654202347137_686202136_9265254_189122235_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/422009_10150654204937137_686202136_9265259_1211813738_n.jpg
― scott seward, Thursday, 1 March 2012 18:06 (fourteen years ago)
c'mon dude you're really gonna rep for this skinemax quality doo doo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9KAqhbIZ7o
― I GUESS THAT CINNABON GETTIN EATEN (Edward III), Thursday, 1 March 2012 18:07 (fourteen years ago)
blade runner is perfect. i'm banning you. where the hell is that button...
― scott seward, Thursday, 1 March 2012 18:08 (fourteen years ago)
yeah man absolutely!
― max, Thursday, 1 March 2012 18:08 (fourteen years ago)
blade runner OST is probly the best vangelis album of all time!
Yeah that is fucking insane.
― polyphonic, Thursday, 1 March 2012 18:09 (fourteen years ago)
I dunno kinda reminds me of
http://www.hulu.com/watch/124875/saturday-night-live-snl-digital-short-the-curse
― I GUESS THAT CINNABON GETTIN EATEN (Edward III), Thursday, 1 March 2012 18:11 (fourteen years ago)
vangelis saxophone is like the best thing ever
― goole, Thursday, 1 March 2012 18:11 (fourteen years ago)
yeah i dont know what to tell you, i like careless whisper and baker street too
― max, Thursday, 1 March 2012 18:12 (fourteen years ago)
I can't even fathom how a person could not enjoy the Blade Runner soundtrack
― Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Thursday, 1 March 2012 18:14 (fourteen years ago)
and what's up with deckard forcing himself on rachel? no means no man!
― I GUESS THAT CINNABON GETTIN EATEN (Edward III), Thursday, 1 March 2012 18:14 (fourteen years ago)
this is my fave track from the album
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iF2JJjr4qvg
― max, Thursday, 1 March 2012 18:17 (fourteen years ago)
ok edward 3, you're in the desert, you see a tortoise on its back...
― goole, Thursday, 1 March 2012 18:20 (fourteen years ago)
let me tell you about my mother
― I GUESS THAT CINNABON GETTIN EATEN (Edward III), Thursday, 1 March 2012 18:21 (fourteen years ago)
also never noticed how terrible the music in blade runner is
This is why I have somewhere around four or five fan-made Blade Runner music compilations that try to grab all the music bits that weren't released on a soundtrack
Wait no, the opposite of terrible
― valleys of your mind (mh), Thursday, 1 March 2012 18:21 (fourteen years ago)
btw blade runner end credits theme is the best thing of all time
yeah blade runner OST is terrible, like 100% awful, in a world where awful is great and die hard isn't all that~
― omar little, Thursday, 1 March 2012 18:24 (fourteen years ago)
http://hollywoodhatesme.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/bizarro.jpg
― I GUESS THAT CINNABON GETTIN EATEN (Edward III), Thursday, 1 March 2012 18:25 (fourteen years ago)
Is this a joke? Cause I still don't get that part. I'm sure this means I've missed the point of the movie somehow.
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 March 2012 18:25 (fourteen years ago)
I'm not joking! that scene is kind of troubling. "seduction" scenes where guys push women around always creep me out.
― I GUESS THAT CINNABON GETTIN EATEN (Edward III), Thursday, 1 March 2012 18:33 (fourteen years ago)
maybe it's just supposed to prove that robots are better than ppl, roy and pris seem to have a pretty healthy relationship
― I GUESS THAT CINNABON GETTIN EATEN (Edward III), Thursday, 1 March 2012 18:34 (fourteen years ago)
dude I have bad news about that "robots are better than people" assumption with those two pairings
― valleys of your mind (mh), Thursday, 1 March 2012 18:38 (fourteen years ago)
WAS GON SAY
― FPocalypto! (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 1 March 2012 18:40 (fourteen years ago)
there is a law on ILX that all film discussions sooner or later center on blade runner
― flagp∞st (dayo), Thursday, 1 March 2012 18:51 (fourteen years ago)
*recoiling in horror* Edward III I renounce all knowledge of you...
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 1 March 2012 18:52 (fourteen years ago)
http://oreald.com/pictures/w/d/0002067.jpg
― scott seward, Thursday, 1 March 2012 18:56 (fourteen years ago)
http://www.paradoxplace.com/Perspectives/Genl%20Images/Images/Portrait_Images/Edward-III.jpg