Kenny Dalglish Won't Be Delivering the Module: English Premiership 2011-12

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Chicago season tickets start around $200 so yeah, I go to every game. Usually good for 2-3 away games each season too (our nearest league rival is ~350 miles away).

Wild Flag Post (dan m), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 16:00 (fourteen years ago)

I used to go a ton with my dad when I was little. 80s Scottish football was pretty great now I think about it, when you didn't know what it was going to turn into.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 16:02 (fourteen years ago)

btw if anyone ever wants a ticket for anfield then get in touch and you can use my fancard (provided you guard it with your life and return it to me safely!!!!!!!!!!!)

Chris, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 16:08 (fourteen years ago)

The game that always sticks in my memory is away at Portsmouth, pouring rain, no roof on the away end, Brighton lose 5-0. The police keep us in at the end of the game for 30 mins 'for our own safety' and the PA plays radio commentary of each Portsmouth goal, and then plays it again, and again. Soaking wet, incredibly depressed, wondering just what the hell I am doing there.

pandemic, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 16:11 (fourteen years ago)

http://banouby.wordpress.com/is-the-season-ticket-still-an-appropriate-pricing-model-for-football/

mizzell, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 16:23 (fourteen years ago)

There were season ticket holders, and then there were other fans. And then, last of all, there were fans who just watched on the TV.

And after them the ilf crew with their laptops.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 16:29 (fourteen years ago)

Fair enough. I guess I was lucky to get into the football watching habit when it was still £3.50 to go and stand, and you could pick and choose which match to go to on a Saturday afternoon, rather than it being an operation of military precision to try to get one of the half dozen remaining tickets that go to general sale for most PL clubs. And nowadays, though I do resent the cost, I can afford to get a season ticket.

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 16:51 (fourteen years ago)

I used to go seven or eight times a season and stopping has basically coincided with Spurs becoming good. I should rectify this really :/

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 17:11 (fourteen years ago)

Interesting piece about pricing. That's certainly caused ructions at QPR when they've discounted some games. Mind you, the pricing strategy at QPR has long appeared to be: "What will cause the greatest unhappiness to the greatest number of people for the longest time? We'll do that."

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 17:16 (fourteen years ago)

yay gerrard starting tonight after a year out injured and 120 mins on sunday THANK YOU STUART

Chris, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 17:31 (fourteen years ago)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/feb/29/pepe-reina-race-row-tv-advert

haven't watched the video, how bad is it?

mizzell, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 17:37 (fourteen years ago)

a couple of thoughts on that season ticket pricing article:

1) re: getting to Wembley - yes, the experience has been devalued by holding FA Cup semi-finals there, but *most* clubs aren't going there significantly more often than they used to. While United and Chelsea will have been there far more in the last decade than in the 1980s, that's because those teams are far more successful now than they were then. I doubt fans of most clubs (including 'big' but not terribly successful clubs in recent times: Everton, Villa, Newcastle etc.) would be uninterested in a trip to Wembley because of overfamiliarity. In the case of Man Utd (and probably several other clubs) the problem with the 'season ticket = guaranteed ticket for cup final' equation is that the allocations for cup finals are always smaller than the number of season tickets, so plenty of season ticket holders miss out (or pay well over the odds to get tickets that have been given to the corporate sector etc.)

2) Again, it's certainly the case with a lot of Man Utd supporters so I imagine it's true at other clubs, that following the team away is seen as far more of a desirable experience than following the team at home (for many reasons, top of the list being the all-standing all-singing element). The article talks about not needing a season ticket to guarantee a seat in a home match, but doesn't mention that many people might want them for ease of access to away tickets. (Again, with Man Utd there is such excessive demand for these that a season ticket is next to useless in this respect, but for most clubs I'd imagine that's not the case)

Striking Minors (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 17:50 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah: at QPR having a season ticket means I can pick and choose away games, which is nice. Don't need to go to Wigan etc in order to pick up the loyalty points to get me a seat at the Emirates or Stamford Bridge.

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 17:57 (fourteen years ago)

One thing I've been musing on (in a different context) which indirectly ties in is access for young people and whether the game is still trading on the edgy image of the hooligan era, with the edginess taken out. I'm sure that was true in the 90s, and being sold to the ex-hoolies who'd got richer and no longer had the stomach for a ruck - but I'm not sure there's any equivalent constituency from the 90s and beyond to take over as regular attendees. Might explain the slow tailing off of crowds that seems to have started outside the big clubs.

But maybe the game doesn't trade on that so much now, what with being the best league in the world and all.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 18:14 (fourteen years ago)

yay gerrard's gone off injured. fuck you very much stuart/england/fa.

Chris, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 20:36 (fourteen years ago)

very odd decision to start him, especially in that role

Number None, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 20:37 (fourteen years ago)

There's a fabulous game over on youtube just now, guys

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 20:38 (fourteen years ago)

eh, i just have it on in the background

Number None, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 20:42 (fourteen years ago)

i assume he's injured anyway, or has at least felt a twinge. can't for a second imagine pearce and the fa are daft enough to plan for him to only play 30 minutes in a meaningless fucking friendly OH HANG ON

Chris, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 20:42 (fourteen years ago)

sensational crowd reaction to mcclean coming on

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 21:26 (fourteen years ago)

what's the game like? couldn't be arsed streaming it

Number None, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 21:27 (fourteen years ago)

trap out

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 21:30 (fourteen years ago)

good good

Number None, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 21:31 (fourteen years ago)

btw andrews is awful awful awful do i make myself clear he hates the ball and football in general

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 21:31 (fourteen years ago)

cox with two nutmegs and a goal.

Andrews assist gah

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 21:33 (fourteen years ago)

two in two for West Brom...

Number None, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 21:33 (fourteen years ago)

cox/mcclean look v good on left since coming on with 15 mins to go trap out btw

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 21:36 (fourteen years ago)

lol

the jeremy lin of YANIV (cozen), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 21:48 (fourteen years ago)

indeed

Number None, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 21:48 (fourteen years ago)

yes, lol

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 21:50 (fourteen years ago)

oo do u fink u are kidding mister itler

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 21:51 (fourteen years ago)

can i just moan again about this thread not being on i love football. confuses me about once a week.

soldado scored two for spain in one game. rip fernando torres. we'll always have vienna.

zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 22:03 (fourteen years ago)

That reception for McClean was kind of hilarious. The plain people of Ireland are so starved for anything resembling entertainment at this stage

Number None, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 22:51 (fourteen years ago)

where is the discussion of England vs Netherlands

the pinefox, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 23:24 (fourteen years ago)

lol

― the jeremy lin of YANIV (cozen), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 21:48 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

indeed

― Number None, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 21:48 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes, lol

― Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 21:50 (1 hour ago) Bookmark

Number None, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 23:31 (fourteen years ago)

I inadvertently saw all of the game over my friend's shoulder while talking to her about family issues in a pub in Fitzrovia. Increasingly predisposed towards Pearce as manja except that won't upset any Spurs fans so nah.

Upt0eleven, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 23:36 (fourteen years ago)

loved that Robben goal

now Huntelaar's just scored - is he unconscious? he appears to have a chunk of turf in his mouth.

boxall, Thursday, 1 March 2012 02:14 (fourteen years ago)

Smalling got the worst of it

Number None, Thursday, 1 March 2012 02:15 (fourteen years ago)

I've no sympathy, he was never going to reach that cross and he still threw his skull at it.

boxall, Thursday, 1 March 2012 02:22 (fourteen years ago)

probably learned that move from Terry

Number None, Thursday, 1 March 2012 02:23 (fourteen years ago)

now I'm hearing KJH got concussed, nose broken, & lost multiple teeth, poor Smalling if he really came off worse!

boxall, Thursday, 1 March 2012 03:23 (fourteen years ago)

Damn, Smalling seemed worse at the time but that's nasty. Anyway, today's important news - the European Court of Justice has ruled that fixture lists can no longer be copyrighted

Number None, Thursday, 1 March 2012 11:36 (fourteen years ago)

*fires up the presses*

jabba hands, Thursday, 1 March 2012 11:50 (fourteen years ago)

Tough break for the EPL, having to put up with being advertised for free from now on.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 1 March 2012 12:07 (fourteen years ago)

d/ling to kindle right now so awesome

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 March 2012 12:11 (fourteen years ago)

Apparently the entire fixture list was £3,931. What a racket

Number None, Thursday, 1 March 2012 12:17 (fourteen years ago)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/feb/29/pepe-reina-race-row-tv-advert

FFS. Liverpool need to fire their entire PR department immediately.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Thursday, 1 March 2012 14:09 (fourteen years ago)

Saw the article yesterday so I assume they'll all be wearing Pepe t-shirts this weekend

FPocalypto! (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 1 March 2012 14:11 (fourteen years ago)

Surprised Spain's second choice keeper would get to appear in TV ads

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 1 March 2012 14:13 (fourteen years ago)

Not sure that what he did is considered racist where he comes from.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 1 March 2012 14:18 (fourteen years ago)


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