2012 republican presidential nominee III: can romney get santorum out of his hair?

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Lol "cypher"

One day I will learn to stop trying to post via iPhone.

it's smdh time in America (will), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 20:28 (fourteen years ago)

I shall take Morbz to the highest point of ILX and say, Do you see this political thread where people are actually talking about voting for Santorum? THIS COULD ALL BE YOURS.

pplains, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 20:49 (fourteen years ago)

if his name is used one more time in this thread u'll summon him

Mordy, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 20:50 (fourteen years ago)

"IT'S MORBSTIME!"

http://images.wikia.com/villains/images/f/fe/Beetlejuice.png

A Full Torgo Apparition (Phil D.), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 20:56 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_zHgD_9vc3DU/SqCQwpXERjI/AAAAAAAASSg/iV9MmZ6xZbo/Candyman2.gif

omar little, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 20:57 (fourteen years ago)

My kind of headline:

Romney Surrogate Compares Candidate To Mark Wahlberg And A Timex Watch

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 20:59 (fourteen years ago)

Bamdyman xp

A Full Torgo Apparition (Phil D.), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 20:59 (fourteen years ago)

"I think Mitt Romney’s like my Timex watch...there is literally no need for me to have this thing."

da croupier, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 21:09 (fourteen years ago)

no, no,no PERRY was the Wahlberg character.

pplains, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 21:21 (fourteen years ago)

Estimated voter turnout is down in the Michigan primary today, according to the Michigan Secretary of State's Office. Turnout in the GOP primary is estimated to represent between 15 percent and 20 percent of registered voters, CNN reports.

That's down from the 21 percent who participated in the 2008 contest.

This would be more exciting if I didn't believe that the Dem turnout will also be depressed.

Unleash the Chang (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 21:39 (fourteen years ago)

You mean there'd be a low turnout for a contest with only one real candidate? Oh, the shock.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 21:40 (fourteen years ago)

"You got your one vote and you won."

"Great, thanks."

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 21:40 (fourteen years ago)

Romney = Tone Dēf

clemenza, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 21:42 (fourteen years ago)

ThinkProgress ‏ @thinkprogress Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
EARLY MICHIGAN EXITS: In GOP primary, 10% of voters were Democrats. Among Democrats, 50% voted for Santorum, 15% for Romney.

lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 23:57 (fourteen years ago)

538:

Preliminary exit polls today, however, show that about 1 in 10 voters are Democrats. That number, if it does not change drastically, would match up closer with Michigan's 2008 and 1996 primaries

iatee, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 00:02 (fourteen years ago)

And, according to CNN, much lower than 17% in 2000, when McCain won. But this 10% would have much greater impact if it gave a close call to Santorum.

clemenza, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 00:08 (fourteen years ago)

yeah but it's hard to tell who's an abortion-hating reagan dem and who's a genuine prankster.

iatee, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 00:10 (fourteen years ago)

All the campaigns will try to spin this 10% in whatever way looks best for them, but a vote is a vote.

Aimless, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 00:26 (fourteen years ago)

Just catching up with today's posts. For the many reasons cited above, I can't see much of a comparison between Santorum and Nixon or Bush I. In perceived stature, they're not even close. Bush II is maybe a more plausible analogy, but based on perceptions of Bush as he left office, not as he went in. I don't remember any widespread feeling in 2000 that Bush was unelectable.

you're starting to sound like Matt or clemenza. Would you like me to sing "Oh Susanna"?

I tried to make sense of this based on the previous posts, but I couldn't.

clemenza, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 00:27 (fourteen years ago)

Bush came from a famous family as the successful governor of one of the largest, most powerful (and southern) states in the country and he liked both drinking AND God so of course he was electable

Artful Dodderer (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 00:29 (fourteen years ago)

i think w/r/t bush in '00 people forget how folks back then seemed to have a rose-tinted view of his dad and sort of imagined his son as a comparatively innocuous-*seeming* republican.

omar little, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 00:31 (fourteen years ago)

he ran on being an innocuous-republican!

iatee, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 00:32 (fourteen years ago)

i think w/r/t bush in '00 people forget how folks back then seemed to have a rose-tinted view of his dad and sort of imagined his son as a comparatively innocuous-*seeming* republican.

I don't remember this at all. He ran as as an imbecile who cooed the right notes to evangelicals, neocons, and libertarians.

His dad ran as Reagan.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 00:34 (fourteen years ago)

compassionate innocuism

lag∞n, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 00:35 (fourteen years ago)

"fuzzy math"

Aimless, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 00:35 (fourteen years ago)

One thing history has confirmed: the conclusion in 1988 that Poppy Bush, the first veep since Van Buren to win the presidency, triumphed because he ran as a Reagan acolyte.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 00:36 (fourteen years ago)

I mean all that "kinder, gentler" stuff was designed so he wouldn't come off a a lapdog.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 00:37 (fourteen years ago)

lolomg i looved fuzzy math

lag∞n, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 00:37 (fourteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9pqmW-D14I

lag∞n, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 00:39 (fourteen years ago)

Rich Perry practiced fuzzy math. So did Herman Cain. Now they're both trapped in a lockbox.

clemenza, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 00:40 (fourteen years ago)

man I don't wanna relive Gore's Robert Blake makeup again.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 00:41 (fourteen years ago)

Rick...not a Freudian slip, a Romney slip.

clemenza, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 00:41 (fourteen years ago)

Newt's on CNN (from Georgia) telling folksy stories and getting all nostalgic...he's mutating into Garrison Keillor. I don't approve.

clemenza, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 01:16 (fourteen years ago)

whatever else he is, newt is not a very 'from georgia' seeming pol from georgia. but maybe i don't know georgia very well.

goole, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 01:29 (fourteen years ago)

Dead heat 35,000 votes in--this is going to be Iowa all over again.

clemenza, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 01:34 (fourteen years ago)

We're trembling!

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 01:41 (fourteen years ago)

Oh, go listen to some late-period Rod Stewart! (I'm bringing out the heavy artillery.)

clemenza, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 01:43 (fourteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=denQRG6CaBo

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 01:44 (fourteen years ago)

i didn't know "listen to some late-period rod stewart" meant "fuck yourself", huh

anyway, LA times doing romney's spin work, looks like

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-exit-polls-democrats-michigan-primary-20120228,0,6201649.story

goole, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 01:58 (fourteen years ago)

8:54 P.M. Romney Leads Narrowly in Oakland and Macomb
Mitt Romney leads Rick Santorum by 12 percentage points so far in precincts reporting from Oakland County, Mich., a wealthy suburban county that is his stronghold. He also leads by about 3 points in Macomb County, which is somewhat more working class but was also thought to favor Mr. Romney.

Those results, however, are probably somewhat behind the pace he would need to carry the whole state; Mr. Romney won both counties by 20 points in 2008.

These counties have reported between 3 and 4 percent of their results so far; there's a good chance that Mr. Romney's lead will expand as a more representative sample of precincts begin to report. Still, it's not a terrific result for him so far.

- Nate Silver

lag∞n, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 01:59 (fourteen years ago)

tommythek50 at 5:21 PM February 28, 2012
No surprise, this is what today's Progressive Democrats do...create chaos.  That is one of their core values. 

lol I want this to be true so bad

iatee, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 02:01 (fourteen years ago)

Romney's lead keeps creeping up. I don't know if the trees and inland lakes have voted yet or not, but I have a bad feeling.

clemenza, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 02:08 (fourteen years ago)

intrade going crazy for romrom tho I wonder if it's just someone making a big bet

iatee, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 02:20 (fourteen years ago)

The trees cast just the right vote.

nickn, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 02:24 (fourteen years ago)

Newtastic:

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/02/28/gingrich-delivers-rambling-concession/

For more than 15 minutes, Mr. Gingrich first related several stories about his past in Georgia, including one about how he and friends tried to cut down a dying tree, only to see it crash into a house.

He then launched into a lecture about energy, the subject that he has been focused on for days.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 02:39 (fourteen years ago)

Meanwhile, the passion!:

Even in his old neighborhood, Mr. Romney had his detractors, and enthusiasm among his supporters seemed generally low.

Some were angry that Mr. Romney did not support the federal auto bailout in 2008. Others did not like the negative tone the candidates adopted. But many said they were forced to choose between a candidate they thought could beat President Obama in November and one who shares their personal values.

Wearing a tie printed with the American flag, Sandy Munro, 62, said he cast his vote for Mr. Santorum because he was “probably the little more moral of the two.”

“Romney was the right guy the last time around to get the country back on its feet,” he said about the 2008 election. “Now what we need is a strong political leader to do something to get us out of the moral slump that we’re in.”

In Novi, a nearby suburb, Jim Graves, 49, decided on Tuesday morning that he would vote for Mr. Romney, whom he called the “least of all the evils.”

Since losing his job at an auto supplier in 2006, Mr. Graves said, he has been able to find only part-time work. He said Mr. Romney’s business experience was impressive, though he did not seem excited about his vote.

“I’m comfortable with it,” he said about his choice. “I’ve made my peace with it.”

Pat Tschirhart, 77, said that he sided with Mr. Santorum on many social issues — especially his opposition to abortion — but that in the end chose to back Mr. Romney because he was the best “anybody but Obama” candidate.

On the western side of the state, at the Rainbow Grill in Grandville, Mich., near Grand Rapids, voters packed in to see Mr. Santorum, enthused by his stance on social issues.

Barb Northuis, 54, works in day care and voted for Mr. Santorum, a former senator from Pennsylvania, because “he’s pro-life and has Christian values,” she said.

Her friend Sandy DeGroot, a 60-year-old banker, agreed. “We need to get back to a president with faith.” As for Mr. Romney? “No way,” she said.

Many voters, however, were still undecided, even after casting their ballots.

Jean Dalman, 84, is a church volunteer who voted for Mr. Romney on Friday by absentee ballot, but now regrets it. “I was betwixt and between,” she said. “You don’t know what the truth is. Truth has gone out the window.”

The electorate’s lack of enthusiasm has popped up again and again throughout the Republican contest, with front-runners rising and falling over the last few months.

It was noticeable again in Novi on Tuesday, where volunteers working at the polls at Holy Family Catholic Church said turnout was surprisingly light, even for a primary. A voter or two, then more waiting.

Around midday, the machine counting ballots sat silent in the empty gymnasium.

“Most of the people I know aren’t even going to take the time to vote,” said Jon Spendlove, 31, who came to the church on his day off to back Representative Ron Paul of Texas.

Campaign ads that flooded the airwaves might have added to voter fatigue, said Susan Abrams, 46, who decided on Monday night to support Mr. Romney and looks forward to things getting back to normal.

“I’m so sick of hearing about it,” she said. “I didn’t even turn on the news this morning because I knew it’s all I would hear.”

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 02:41 (fourteen years ago)

looking at what's left to count, I don't see a way for santorum to close this gap

iatee, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 02:42 (fourteen years ago)

Haha!:

http://media.hotair.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/cath.jpg

I’m dying to see the crosstabs on when Catholic voters decided. Did the attention given to Santorum’s criticism of JFK’s church-and-state speech this weekend possibly alienate some of them? (Note again that Romney won among voters who decided today even though Santorum crushed him among voters who decided over the past two months.) Or is something else going on? Liberal Catholics maybe reacting to Santorum’s contraception rhetoric? Theories?

Oh where to begin.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 02:44 (fourteen years ago)

(xpost) Unless...he calls in a favour from the superest super-delegate of them all.

clemenza, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 02:46 (fourteen years ago)

I think people read too much w/r/t 'catholic' as a predictable voting demographic these days

iatee, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 02:47 (fourteen years ago)


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