2012 republican presidential nominee III: can romney get santorum out of his hair?

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stimulus package to the advertising industry. how come nobody opposes campaign finance reform on the grounds that it will eliminate jobs?

Mordy, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 20:08 (fourteen years ago)

well will what are you thinking, plz tell jonathan chait

Santorum is an insane person, in a way that even Nixon, Bush Jr, whichever modern conservative bogeymen the left wants to trot out were not. My faith in the electorate is minute, but whatever there is tells me that moderates/swing voters/ dems generally unhappy w Obama/ whatever are never going to pull the lever for this hateful little creep.

As for those 55% of Dems who are voting in the primaries for Santorum who claim to actually *like* him? First, I find that extremely hard to believe, secondly anyone who's happily backing fucking Santorum, regardless of party, was never ever ever going to vote for Obama in the general anyway.

Furthermore, Mitt is such a fucking cypher I really think his presidency will just end up being rubber-stamp-a-thon for the insanity that has taken over the House and could very well take over the Senate. So would he *really* be that much better than Santorum? (ok that's prob hyperbole, but)

Lastly, if Romney gets the nod and loses to Obama, then we'll just be dealing with the same fucktarded tiresome bullshit between now and 2016 about how if the "GOP had only nominate a REAL conservative..."
Personally I'm ready for a good ol fashioned showdown between ZOMG secular America-hating progressives (I.e., moderate corporatists) and the christianist taliban that has spent the last 30 years demo using science and re-writing American history as an addendum to the Bible. I know it won't shut them up, but I will certainly get some pleasure watching their dude go down in flames.

it's smdh time in America (will), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 20:11 (fourteen years ago)

"demo using" = demonizing science

it's smdh time in America (will), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 20:13 (fourteen years ago)

As for those 55% of Dems who are voting in the primaries for Santorum who claim to actually *like* him? First, I find that extremely hard to believe, secondly anyone who's happily backing fucking Santorum, regardless of party, was never ever ever going to vote for Obama in the general anyway.

Yeah, btw, what was the percentage of dems who "just wanted to mess with pollsters"?

pplains, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 20:15 (fourteen years ago)

And for for all the sound and fury:

Estimated voter turnout is down in the Michigan primary today, according to the Michigan Secretary of State's Office. Turnout in the GOP primary is estimated to represent between 15 percent and 20 percent of registered voters, CNN reports.

That's down from the 21 percent who participated in the 2008 contest.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 20:17 (fourteen years ago)

kinda amazing

iatee, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 20:18 (fourteen years ago)

i think a lot of "fear" of obama from the right is kind of false in a way, whereas i think fear of santorum from the left is real and certainly more viable and more likely to galvanize folks into voting. even morbs would vote for obama when faced w/santorum!~

omar little, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 20:18 (fourteen years ago)

feast upon their diseased and dripping dick slits and big rotten pussies.

just wanted to see that bit again

goole, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 20:19 (fourteen years ago)

Morbs would still vote for Nader because he doesn't live in a swing state.

pplains, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 20:22 (fourteen years ago)

As long as morbs keeps his lenten vow, I say we shouldn't be prodding him.

Aimless, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 20:25 (fourteen years ago)

Lol "cypher"

One day I will learn to stop trying to post via iPhone.

it's smdh time in America (will), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 20:28 (fourteen years ago)

I shall take Morbz to the highest point of ILX and say, Do you see this political thread where people are actually talking about voting for Santorum? THIS COULD ALL BE YOURS.

pplains, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 20:49 (fourteen years ago)

if his name is used one more time in this thread u'll summon him

Mordy, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 20:50 (fourteen years ago)

"IT'S MORBSTIME!"

http://images.wikia.com/villains/images/f/fe/Beetlejuice.png

A Full Torgo Apparition (Phil D.), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 20:56 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_zHgD_9vc3DU/SqCQwpXERjI/AAAAAAAASSg/iV9MmZ6xZbo/Candyman2.gif

omar little, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 20:57 (fourteen years ago)

My kind of headline:

Romney Surrogate Compares Candidate To Mark Wahlberg And A Timex Watch

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 20:59 (fourteen years ago)

Bamdyman xp

A Full Torgo Apparition (Phil D.), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 20:59 (fourteen years ago)

"I think Mitt Romney’s like my Timex watch...there is literally no need for me to have this thing."

da croupier, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 21:09 (fourteen years ago)

no, no,no PERRY was the Wahlberg character.

pplains, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 21:21 (fourteen years ago)

Estimated voter turnout is down in the Michigan primary today, according to the Michigan Secretary of State's Office. Turnout in the GOP primary is estimated to represent between 15 percent and 20 percent of registered voters, CNN reports.

That's down from the 21 percent who participated in the 2008 contest.

This would be more exciting if I didn't believe that the Dem turnout will also be depressed.

Unleash the Chang (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 21:39 (fourteen years ago)

You mean there'd be a low turnout for a contest with only one real candidate? Oh, the shock.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 21:40 (fourteen years ago)

"You got your one vote and you won."

"Great, thanks."

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 21:40 (fourteen years ago)

Romney = Tone Dēf

clemenza, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 21:42 (fourteen years ago)

ThinkProgress ‏ @thinkprogress Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
EARLY MICHIGAN EXITS: In GOP primary, 10% of voters were Democrats. Among Democrats, 50% voted for Santorum, 15% for Romney.

lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 23:57 (fourteen years ago)

538:

Preliminary exit polls today, however, show that about 1 in 10 voters are Democrats. That number, if it does not change drastically, would match up closer with Michigan's 2008 and 1996 primaries

iatee, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 00:02 (fourteen years ago)

And, according to CNN, much lower than 17% in 2000, when McCain won. But this 10% would have much greater impact if it gave a close call to Santorum.

clemenza, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 00:08 (fourteen years ago)

yeah but it's hard to tell who's an abortion-hating reagan dem and who's a genuine prankster.

iatee, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 00:10 (fourteen years ago)

All the campaigns will try to spin this 10% in whatever way looks best for them, but a vote is a vote.

Aimless, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 00:26 (fourteen years ago)

Just catching up with today's posts. For the many reasons cited above, I can't see much of a comparison between Santorum and Nixon or Bush I. In perceived stature, they're not even close. Bush II is maybe a more plausible analogy, but based on perceptions of Bush as he left office, not as he went in. I don't remember any widespread feeling in 2000 that Bush was unelectable.

you're starting to sound like Matt or clemenza. Would you like me to sing "Oh Susanna"?

I tried to make sense of this based on the previous posts, but I couldn't.

clemenza, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 00:27 (fourteen years ago)

Bush came from a famous family as the successful governor of one of the largest, most powerful (and southern) states in the country and he liked both drinking AND God so of course he was electable

Artful Dodderer (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 00:29 (fourteen years ago)

i think w/r/t bush in '00 people forget how folks back then seemed to have a rose-tinted view of his dad and sort of imagined his son as a comparatively innocuous-*seeming* republican.

omar little, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 00:31 (fourteen years ago)

he ran on being an innocuous-republican!

iatee, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 00:32 (fourteen years ago)

i think w/r/t bush in '00 people forget how folks back then seemed to have a rose-tinted view of his dad and sort of imagined his son as a comparatively innocuous-*seeming* republican.

I don't remember this at all. He ran as as an imbecile who cooed the right notes to evangelicals, neocons, and libertarians.

His dad ran as Reagan.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 00:34 (fourteen years ago)

compassionate innocuism

lag∞n, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 00:35 (fourteen years ago)

"fuzzy math"

Aimless, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 00:35 (fourteen years ago)

One thing history has confirmed: the conclusion in 1988 that Poppy Bush, the first veep since Van Buren to win the presidency, triumphed because he ran as a Reagan acolyte.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 00:36 (fourteen years ago)

I mean all that "kinder, gentler" stuff was designed so he wouldn't come off a a lapdog.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 00:37 (fourteen years ago)

lolomg i looved fuzzy math

lag∞n, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 00:37 (fourteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9pqmW-D14I

lag∞n, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 00:39 (fourteen years ago)

Rich Perry practiced fuzzy math. So did Herman Cain. Now they're both trapped in a lockbox.

clemenza, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 00:40 (fourteen years ago)

man I don't wanna relive Gore's Robert Blake makeup again.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 00:41 (fourteen years ago)

Rick...not a Freudian slip, a Romney slip.

clemenza, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 00:41 (fourteen years ago)

Newt's on CNN (from Georgia) telling folksy stories and getting all nostalgic...he's mutating into Garrison Keillor. I don't approve.

clemenza, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 01:16 (fourteen years ago)

whatever else he is, newt is not a very 'from georgia' seeming pol from georgia. but maybe i don't know georgia very well.

goole, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 01:29 (fourteen years ago)

Dead heat 35,000 votes in--this is going to be Iowa all over again.

clemenza, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 01:34 (fourteen years ago)

We're trembling!

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 01:41 (fourteen years ago)

Oh, go listen to some late-period Rod Stewart! (I'm bringing out the heavy artillery.)

clemenza, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 01:43 (fourteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=denQRG6CaBo

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 01:44 (fourteen years ago)

i didn't know "listen to some late-period rod stewart" meant "fuck yourself", huh

anyway, LA times doing romney's spin work, looks like

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-exit-polls-democrats-michigan-primary-20120228,0,6201649.story

goole, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 01:58 (fourteen years ago)

8:54 P.M. Romney Leads Narrowly in Oakland and Macomb
Mitt Romney leads Rick Santorum by 12 percentage points so far in precincts reporting from Oakland County, Mich., a wealthy suburban county that is his stronghold. He also leads by about 3 points in Macomb County, which is somewhat more working class but was also thought to favor Mr. Romney.

Those results, however, are probably somewhat behind the pace he would need to carry the whole state; Mr. Romney won both counties by 20 points in 2008.

These counties have reported between 3 and 4 percent of their results so far; there's a good chance that Mr. Romney's lead will expand as a more representative sample of precincts begin to report. Still, it's not a terrific result for him so far.

- Nate Silver

lag∞n, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 01:59 (fourteen years ago)


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