2012 republican presidential nominee III: can romney get santorum out of his hair?

does not compute, it's in the dems interest to OVERestimate how much the GOP will dump into the election

― Artful Dodderer (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, February 28, 2012 2:43 PM (17 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh i just think theyre prob wrong is all, shit always gets more heated than people imagine, wake up the next morning theres cigarette buts in the fish tank

did ppp ask how many democrats plan to mess around with santorum today

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/02/15/magazine/what-are-the-chances-for-republicans.html?pagewanted=all

this is a fun lil toy

i guess my position is 'it could happen but the chance is so low it's not worth sacrificing lols worrying about'

according to nate silver, santorum needs GDP growth to be +.5% this yr to have over 50% chance of winning, provided that obamas approval rating holds

http://i.imgur.com/LrxOl.png

guys there is nothing to worry abt jeez put away yr maps

gdp growth is prob the right thing to look at but if that's purely based on historical campaigns it prob underestimates the fact that no matter who is the candidate is they are gonna run a terrible, terrible campaign

good articles about candidate rick santorum!

as a young man:

http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/101101/rick-santorum-college-liberal-conservative

how catholic conservatives came to sound like evangelicals when talking about the separation of church and state: (hint it's abortion)

http://www.religiondispatches.org/dispatches/sarahposner/5736/

yeah I found it interesting that his whole crazy religious nut thing is apparently just 'good politics' for him

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/02/15/magazine/what-are-the-chances-for-republicans.html?pagewanted=all

this is a fun lil toy

protip put on some Orbital and toggle the uncertainty button on the 1s and 3s

imho santorum really believes it all, but success tends to do that

Damn. polk couldn't even carry Tennessee.

that Sarah Posner piece is so great, she is great.

dems predicting half a billion funneling into gop super pacs in the general, so itll prob end up twice that,

does not compute, it's in the dems interest to OVERestimate how much the GOP will dump into the election

It's alright as long as both parties get tons of cash! Then all is well and business as usual.

stimulus package to the advertising industry. how come nobody opposes campaign finance reform on the grounds that it will eliminate jobs?

well will what are you thinking, plz tell jonathan chait

Santorum is an insane person, in a way that even Nixon, Bush Jr, whichever modern conservative bogeymen the left wants to trot out were not. My faith in the electorate is minute, but whatever there is tells me that moderates/swing voters/ dems generally unhappy w Obama/ whatever are never going to pull the lever for this hateful little creep.

As for those 55% of Dems who are voting in the primaries for Santorum who claim to actually *like* him? First, I find that extremely hard to believe, secondly anyone who's happily backing fucking Santorum, regardless of party, was never ever ever going to vote for Obama in the general anyway.

Furthermore, Mitt is such a fucking cypher I really think his presidency will just end up being rubber-stamp-a-thon for the insanity that has taken over the House and could very well take over the Senate. So would he *really* be that much better than Santorum? (ok that's prob hyperbole, but)

Lastly, if Romney gets the nod and loses to Obama, then we'll just be dealing with the same fucktarded tiresome bullshit between now and 2016 about how if the "GOP had only nominate a REAL conservative..."
Personally I'm ready for a good ol fashioned showdown between ZOMG secular America-hating progressives (I.e., moderate corporatists) and the christianist taliban that has spent the last 30 years demo using science and re-writing American history as an addendum to the Bible. I know it won't shut them up, but I will certainly get some pleasure watching their dude go down in flames.

"demo using" = demonizing science

As for those 55% of Dems who are voting in the primaries for Santorum who claim to actually *like* him? First, I find that extremely hard to believe, secondly anyone who's happily backing fucking Santorum, regardless of party, was never ever ever going to vote for Obama in the general anyway.

Yeah, btw, what was the percentage of dems who "just wanted to mess with pollsters"?

And for for all the sound and fury:

Estimated voter turnout is down in the Michigan primary today, according to the Michigan Secretary of State's Office. Turnout in the GOP primary is estimated to represent between 15 percent and 20 percent of registered voters, CNN reports.

That's down from the 21 percent who participated in the 2008 contest.

kinda amazing

i think a lot of "fear" of obama from the right is kind of false in a way, whereas i think fear of santorum from the left is real and certainly more viable and more likely to galvanize folks into voting. even morbs would vote for obama when faced w/santorum!~

feast upon their diseased and dripping dick slits and big rotten pussies.

just wanted to see that bit again

Morbs would still vote for Nader because he doesn't live in a swing state.

As long as morbs keeps his lenten vow, I say we shouldn't be prodding him.

Lol "cypher"

One day I will learn to stop trying to post via iPhone.

I shall take Morbz to the highest point of ILX and say, Do you see this political thread where people are actually talking about voting for Santorum? THIS COULD ALL BE YOURS.

if his name is used one more time in this thread u'll summon him

"IT'S MORBSTIME!"

http://images.wikia.com/villains/images/f/fe/Beetlejuice.png

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_zHgD_9vc3DU/SqCQwpXERjI/AAAAAAAASSg/iV9MmZ6xZbo/Candyman2.gif

My kind of headline:

Romney Surrogate Compares Candidate To Mark Wahlberg And A Timex Watch

Bamdyman xp

"I think Mitt Romney’s like my Timex watch...there is literally no need for me to have this thing."

no, no,no PERRY was the Wahlberg character.

Estimated voter turnout is down in the Michigan primary today, according to the Michigan Secretary of State's Office. Turnout in the GOP primary is estimated to represent between 15 percent and 20 percent of registered voters, CNN reports.

That's down from the 21 percent who participated in the 2008 contest.

This would be more exciting if I didn't believe that the Dem turnout will also be depressed.

You mean there'd be a low turnout for a contest with only one real candidate? Oh, the shock.

"You got your one vote and you won."

"Great, thanks."

Romney = Tone Dēf

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EARLY MICHIGAN EXITS: In GOP primary, 10% of voters were Democrats. Among Democrats, 50% voted for Santorum, 15% for Romney.

538:

Preliminary exit polls today, however, show that about 1 in 10 voters are Democrats. That number, if it does not change drastically, would match up closer with Michigan's 2008 and 1996 primaries

And, according to CNN, much lower than 17% in 2000, when McCain won. But this 10% would have much greater impact if it gave a close call to Santorum.

yeah but it's hard to tell who's an abortion-hating reagan dem and who's a genuine prankster.

All the campaigns will try to spin this 10% in whatever way looks best for them, but a vote is a vote.

Just catching up with today's posts. For the many reasons cited above, I can't see much of a comparison between Santorum and Nixon or Bush I. In perceived stature, they're not even close. Bush II is maybe a more plausible analogy, but based on perceptions of Bush as he left office, not as he went in. I don't remember any widespread feeling in 2000 that Bush was unelectable.

you're starting to sound like Matt or clemenza. Would you like me to sing "Oh Susanna"?

I tried to make sense of this based on the previous posts, but I couldn't.

Bush came from a famous family as the successful governor of one of the largest, most powerful (and southern) states in the country and he liked both drinking AND God so of course he was electable

i think w/r/t bush in '00 people forget how folks back then seemed to have a rose-tinted view of his dad and sort of imagined his son as a comparatively innocuous-*seeming* republican.

he ran on being an innocuous-republican!

i think w/r/t bush in '00 people forget how folks back then seemed to have a rose-tinted view of his dad and sort of imagined his son as a comparatively innocuous-*seeming* republican.

I don't remember this at all. He ran as as an imbecile who cooed the right notes to evangelicals, neocons, and libertarians.

His dad ran as Reagan.

compassionate innocuism

"fuzzy math"

One thing history has confirmed: the conclusion in 1988 that Poppy Bush, the first veep since Van Buren to win the presidency, triumphed because he ran as a Reagan acolyte.