^^^I have raised a lot of money for that thread title, it better fucking win
― Artful Dodderer (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 19:39 (fourteen years ago)
I even bought yard signs and shit
i think talking about whether or not you personally like a presidential candidate is a really valuable rubric for figuring out that candidates chances
is this inverse correlative or are you accusing me of liking Rick Santorum because if so sir we must have words
― unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 19:40 (fourteen years ago)
the problem is they're squandering their money on a field of candidates while Obama's rich folks are falling in line.
I'm pretty sure the Koch brothers could drop $100mn apiece in the general and plan on getting a healthy ROI. GOP backers squandering their money early does not seem to be much of an issue tbh
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 19:40 (fourteen years ago)
http://wiki-images.enotes.com/thumb/f/f4/ElectoralCollege1888.svg/350px-ElectoralCollege1888.svg.png
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 19:40 (fourteen years ago)
GOP backers squandering their money early does not seem to be much of an issue tbh
we'll see. dunno how eager these guys are to throw good money after bad.
― Artful Dodderer (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 19:41 (fourteen years ago)
uh yeah, exactly
― iatee, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 19:41 (fourteen years ago)
http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/02/what-are-democrats-for-santorum-thinking.html
well will what are you thinking, plz tell jonathan chait
― goole, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 19:42 (fourteen years ago)
dems predicting half a billion funneling into gop super pacs in the general, so itll prob end up twice that, god save all american tv watchers
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 19:42 (fourteen years ago)
PPP intriguingly finds that 55% of the Santorum Democrats actually like him, against 40% who are just messing with Romney.
!!!
!
― goole, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 19:43 (fourteen years ago)
dems predicting half a billion funneling into gop super pacs in the general, so itll prob end up twice that,
does not compute, it's in the dems interest to OVERestimate how much the GOP will dump into the election
― Artful Dodderer (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 19:43 (fourteen years ago)
"just messing with Romney"
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 19:44 (fourteen years ago)
yeah i'm gonna want to kill someone just to see jamie lee curtis and her shitty yogurts again come november
xp 2 lag00n
― goole, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 19:44 (fourteen years ago)
I feel goole drifting over to the "it could happen" side
― unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 19:45 (fourteen years ago)
I imagine this is a pretty small sample set to begin w/ and it's mostly reagan dem types who are gonna vote gop regardless
― iatee, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 19:45 (fourteen years ago)
massive xp
Nixon was a total scumbag, but he was an extremely skillful politician. I can well recall how frustrating it was to have him manipulating Americans through appeals to their fears, anger, insecurities and ignorance. He took full advantage of his having no conscience, no scruples and no ideology; these traits freed him to pursue power by every means at his disposal, untroubled by any of his crimes.
Santorum ain't no Nixon.
― Aimless, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 19:45 (fourteen years ago)
― Artful Dodderer (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, February 28, 2012 2:43 PM (17 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
oh i just think theyre prob wrong is all, shit always gets more heated than people imagine, wake up the next morning theres cigarette buts in the fish tank
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 19:45 (fourteen years ago)
did ppp ask how many democrats plan to mess around with santorum today
― da croupier, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 19:46 (fourteen years ago)
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/02/15/magazine/what-are-the-chances-for-republicans.html?pagewanted=all
this is a fun lil toy
― max, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 19:48 (fourteen years ago)
i guess my position is 'it could happen but the chance is so low it's not worth sacrificing lols worrying about'
― goole, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 19:48 (fourteen years ago)
according to nate silver, santorum needs GDP growth to be +.5% this yr to have over 50% chance of winning, provided that obamas approval rating holds
― max, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 19:49 (fourteen years ago)
http://i.imgur.com/LrxOl.png
guys there is nothing to worry abt jeez put away yr maps
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 19:50 (fourteen years ago)
gdp growth is prob the right thing to look at but if that's purely based on historical campaigns it prob underestimates the fact that no matter who is the candidate is they are gonna run a terrible, terrible campaign
― iatee, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 19:51 (fourteen years ago)
good articles about candidate rick santorum!
as a young man:
http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/101101/rick-santorum-college-liberal-conservative
how catholic conservatives came to sound like evangelicals when talking about the separation of church and state: (hint it's abortion)
http://www.religiondispatches.org/dispatches/sarahposner/5736/
― goole, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 19:52 (fourteen years ago)
yeah I found it interesting that his whole crazy religious nut thing is apparently just 'good politics' for him
― iatee, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 19:53 (fourteen years ago)
protip put on some Orbital and toggle the uncertainty button on the 1s and 3s
― unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 19:55 (fourteen years ago)
imho santorum really believes it all, but success tends to do that
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 19:55 (fourteen years ago)
Damn. polk couldn't even carry Tennessee.
― pplains, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 19:56 (fourteen years ago)
that Sarah Posner piece is so great, she is great.
― unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 19:57 (fourteen years ago)
dems predicting half a billion funneling into gop super pacs in the general, so itll prob end up twice that,does not compute, it's in the dems interest to OVERestimate how much the GOP will dump into the election
It's alright as long as both parties get tons of cash! Then all is well and business as usual.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 20:05 (fourteen years ago)
stimulus package to the advertising industry. how come nobody opposes campaign finance reform on the grounds that it will eliminate jobs?
― Mordy, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 20:08 (fourteen years ago)
Santorum is an insane person, in a way that even Nixon, Bush Jr, whichever modern conservative bogeymen the left wants to trot out were not. My faith in the electorate is minute, but whatever there is tells me that moderates/swing voters/ dems generally unhappy w Obama/ whatever are never going to pull the lever for this hateful little creep.
As for those 55% of Dems who are voting in the primaries for Santorum who claim to actually *like* him? First, I find that extremely hard to believe, secondly anyone who's happily backing fucking Santorum, regardless of party, was never ever ever going to vote for Obama in the general anyway.
Furthermore, Mitt is such a fucking cypher I really think his presidency will just end up being rubber-stamp-a-thon for the insanity that has taken over the House and could very well take over the Senate. So would he *really* be that much better than Santorum? (ok that's prob hyperbole, but)
Lastly, if Romney gets the nod and loses to Obama, then we'll just be dealing with the same fucktarded tiresome bullshit between now and 2016 about how if the "GOP had only nominate a REAL conservative..." Personally I'm ready for a good ol fashioned showdown between ZOMG secular America-hating progressives (I.e., moderate corporatists) and the christianist taliban that has spent the last 30 years demo using science and re-writing American history as an addendum to the Bible. I know it won't shut them up, but I will certainly get some pleasure watching their dude go down in flames.
― it's smdh time in America (will), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 20:11 (fourteen years ago)
"demo using" = demonizing science
― it's smdh time in America (will), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 20:13 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, btw, what was the percentage of dems who "just wanted to mess with pollsters"?
― pplains, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 20:15 (fourteen years ago)
And for for all the sound and fury:
Estimated voter turnout is down in the Michigan primary today, according to the Michigan Secretary of State's Office. Turnout in the GOP primary is estimated to represent between 15 percent and 20 percent of registered voters, CNN reports. That's down from the 21 percent who participated in the 2008 contest.
That's down from the 21 percent who participated in the 2008 contest.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 20:17 (fourteen years ago)
kinda amazing
― iatee, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 20:18 (fourteen years ago)
i think a lot of "fear" of obama from the right is kind of false in a way, whereas i think fear of santorum from the left is real and certainly more viable and more likely to galvanize folks into voting. even morbs would vote for obama when faced w/santorum!~
― omar little, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 20:18 (fourteen years ago)
feast upon their diseased and dripping dick slits and big rotten pussies.
just wanted to see that bit again
― goole, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 20:19 (fourteen years ago)
Morbs would still vote for Nader because he doesn't live in a swing state.
― pplains, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 20:22 (fourteen years ago)
As long as morbs keeps his lenten vow, I say we shouldn't be prodding him.
― Aimless, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 20:25 (fourteen years ago)
Lol "cypher"
One day I will learn to stop trying to post via iPhone.
― it's smdh time in America (will), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 20:28 (fourteen years ago)
I shall take Morbz to the highest point of ILX and say, Do you see this political thread where people are actually talking about voting for Santorum? THIS COULD ALL BE YOURS.
― pplains, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 20:49 (fourteen years ago)
if his name is used one more time in this thread u'll summon him
― Mordy, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 20:50 (fourteen years ago)
"IT'S MORBSTIME!"
http://images.wikia.com/villains/images/f/fe/Beetlejuice.png
― A Full Torgo Apparition (Phil D.), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 20:56 (fourteen years ago)
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_zHgD_9vc3DU/SqCQwpXERjI/AAAAAAAASSg/iV9MmZ6xZbo/Candyman2.gif
― omar little, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 20:57 (fourteen years ago)
My kind of headline:
Romney Surrogate Compares Candidate To Mark Wahlberg And A Timex Watch
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 20:59 (fourteen years ago)
Bamdyman xp
― A Full Torgo Apparition (Phil D.), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 20:59 (fourteen years ago)
"I think Mitt Romney’s like my Timex watch...there is literally no need for me to have this thing."
― da croupier, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 21:09 (fourteen years ago)
no, no,no PERRY was the Wahlberg character.
― pplains, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 21:21 (fourteen years ago)
Estimated voter turnout is down in the Michigan primary today, according to the Michigan Secretary of State's Office. Turnout in the GOP primary is estimated to represent between 15 percent and 20 percent of registered voters, CNN reports.
This would be more exciting if I didn't believe that the Dem turnout will also be depressed.
― Unleash the Chang (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 21:39 (fourteen years ago)