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http://www.cinefamily.org/films/the-unbelievable-genius-of-andrzej-zulawski/

dollar eye twinkling (admrl), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 04:01 (fourteen years ago)

Oh look, Jon Jost w/ Angel City, I hope to see that too!

dollar eye twinkling (admrl), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 04:01 (fourteen years ago)

The Third Part of the Night, On the Silver Globe, The Important Thing is to Love

tanuki, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 04:01 (fourteen years ago)

blimey.

ok then

dollar eye twinkling (admrl), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 04:03 (fourteen years ago)

:)

tanuki, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 04:06 (fourteen years ago)

I'm also hoping to see Bresson's "Four Nights of a Dreamer" this week.

I know, this thread is about movies you HAVE seen, but I started it so I can do what I want.

dollar eye twinkling (admrl), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 04:08 (fourteen years ago)

All I can say is that Possession is one of the most unnerving films I've ever seen. It's fantastic, but it's a rough journey.

SNEEZED GOING DOWN STEPS, PAIN WHEN PUTTING SOCKS ON (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 04:09 (fourteen years ago)

OK that sounds fine.

dollar eye twinkling (admrl), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 04:09 (fourteen years ago)

Probably roughly equivalent to Inland Empire but with fewer placid moments and more bodily fluids.

SNEEZED GOING DOWN STEPS, PAIN WHEN PUTTING SOCKS ON (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 04:11 (fourteen years ago)

OK that's a good rec, I think IE is one of the defining theater experiences of my life.

dollar eye twinkling (admrl), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 04:13 (fourteen years ago)

defining or definitive?

one of those

dollar eye twinkling (admrl), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 04:13 (fourteen years ago)

possession is so great! just be prepared to boggle your eyes a lot. same neil has never been more sam neil-y. and isabelle adjani, well, it just has to be seen. inland empire is a very good comparison point, btw (and "one of the defining theater experiences of my life", likewise).

recently:

cursed - wes craven/kevin williamson werewolf flick w christina ricci and the guy who invented facebook. starts out fun, then falls apart completely.

1409 - stupid stephen king adaptation w a perfectly good white boy. clever premise and a few effectively unnerving moments, but mostly awful. paranormal activity does a much better job w the same premise.

full metal yakuza - goofy miike flick about a reconstructed mobster on a revenge spree. some interesting psychosexual angles, but left a really bad taste in my mouth. fuck this guy and the rape/torture/murder of women as decoration. lol i'm getting old and sensitive...

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 08:00 (fourteen years ago)

Zulawski's my favorite

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 08:09 (fourteen years ago)

I have a DVD of Robert Beavers films on the desk in front of me which I might watch when I finish working

― dollar eye twinkling (admrl), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 03:50 (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

my local celluloid-store proprietor was enthusing about this guy, & the weird chronology of him eventually scoring his films, i would welcome some more endorsements if you're into it

john-claude van donne (schlump), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 11:07 (fourteen years ago)

I liked the scope of The Forgotten Space, even if it went to the edge of going too "far afield" now and then.

Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 12:18 (fourteen years ago)

It did, Sekula's huge "Lottery Of The Sea" (maybe you saw it), sort of a lo-fi precursor to Forgotten Space, does that even more so. I maybe liked "Lottery" more but Forgotten Space had some great moments, the people living in tent cities near Long Beach sticks in my mind.

dollar eye twinkling (admrl), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 13:38 (fourteen years ago)

Watched The Lady Eve (1941), after reading this comment by Robin Wood -
Sturges’s masterpiece, from the long buildup to the most hilarious and brutal payoff in the history of Hollywood comedy - tho' even after screening/enjoying i'm not quite what Wood means by 'brutal payoff'... I was plesantly surprised by how 'modern' the film's take on infidelity and desire is - the script is littered with filthy entendres, and at one point Barbara Stanwyck (falsely) confesses to multiple adulteries while on board a roaring steam train, while Henry Fonda's constant pratfalling and 'innocent' ogling of female body parts acts as kind of displaced priapism. All of the supporting players are wonderful, tho' for sheer out-and-out FUN I still prefer the Palm Beach Story.

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 14:01 (fourteen years ago)

Aw, the Lady Eve is one of my all time favorite movies.

Nicole, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 14:06 (fourteen years ago)

I prefer The Palm Beach Story too although The Lady Eve seems to be held in higher esteem generally. I think the fun goes out of the latter a bit once they leave the boat

Number None, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 14:06 (fourteen years ago)

I want another movie like KEY LARGO or CAPE FEAR (original).

dollar eye twinkling (admrl), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 14:48 (fourteen years ago)

KEY LARGO is one of my all time comfort movies.

dollar eye twinkling (admrl), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 14:49 (fourteen years ago)

It seems like ilx has a low opinion of Miranda July that I've never understood. I loved the Future and enjoyed You and Me. What's the deal?

You don't understand how ILX could be allergic to someone whose work codes (fairly or not) as precious/twee?

Ascot Fitzgerald (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 14:52 (fourteen years ago)

Does Miranda July live in Los Angeles? I feel like I saw her at brunch a few weeks ago.

I guess she could theoretically be visiting

dollar eye twinkling (admrl), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 14:56 (fourteen years ago)

WORK CODES

dollar eye twinkling (admrl), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 14:57 (fourteen years ago)

the people living in tent cities near Long Beach sticks in my mind

Yeah, that was a piercing segment. No prior exposure to Sekula.

Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 15:01 (fourteen years ago)

I took a class with him, he is INtense. It was a globalization class that somehow went from the bailouts to screenings of Rohmer's "Perceval le Gallois" and the like.

dollar eye twinkling (admrl), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 17:18 (fourteen years ago)

Does Miranda July live in Los Angeles? I feel like I saw her at brunch a few weeks ago.

I guess she could theoretically be visiting

― dollar eye twinkling (admrl), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 14:56 (2 hours ago) Permalink

sf, iirc. & i loved the future, focusing on the 'twee' is so missing the ponit; so many really singular, cinematic sequences & otherwise so thoughtful.

john-claude van donne (schlump), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 17:38 (fourteen years ago)

I have a DVD of Robert Beavers films on the desk in front of me which I might watch when I finish working

― dollar eye twinkling (admrl), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Coming to the BFI. How did you enjoy the DVDs?

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 22:20 (fourteen years ago)

My latest lot is unified in its use of music in surprising ways.

Badou Boy - Mambety's featurette from '69. 'About' a boy on the run from a cop. Just uses music and soundtrack in such innovative ways. Sometimes Mambety is content to dub voices, disrupt any action w/music, and its v fkn funny. Need to see Touki Bouki sometime.

Red Psalm - Cracking stuff from Jancso, from '71. Basically a set of long takes of 'peasants' and 'soldiers' and the odd landowner and priest in a field with lots of folk music played and some nudism (its to distract the soldiers, natch, and it signifies FREEDOM). Mesmerizing in almost any mood.

The Chronicle of Anna Magdalena Bach - Finally caught my first screening of a Straub-Huillet. Repeat after me: MATERIAL MATERIAL MATERIAL. The music in the raw. The camera is all emcompassing, absolutely nothing outside the chamber. The myth of the artist is given short shrift: Bach is a man who made great art, but still a man - he is petty, craves favour, only wants to see his art made and children to be raised w/out a fuss (if they make it out of childhood alive, that is, which they sometimes do not). All told by his devoted wife in a fast fwd monologue.

Love the way this ws shot - v questioning of the way music is conveyed via the camera - reminds me of Berger's Ways of Seeing.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 22:38 (fourteen years ago)

The Beavers films were excellent! Go and see them, I'd love to see good prints.

I want to see "Red Psalm" too - Jancso is great.

love, light, and walkabout-thinking (admrl), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 22:43 (fourteen years ago)

― xyzzzz__, you got a lot more out of The Chronicle of Anna Magdalena Bach than I did - can you elaborate a little on v questioning of the way music is conveyed via the camera ? i'm not disagreeing, just that my (rather sleepy) memory of the film is its very very raw quality, an austere record of performance happening in 'real time' w/ minimal edits or close-ups, complicated of course by the actual historical narrative framing/running alongside the musical narrative, which - because of this stylistic 'rigour' - feels like we have to accept as TRUTH abt bach (this truth being the de-mystification of heroic grandeur in favour of the collective sublime - all those choirs singing in unison.) i guess this is minimal cinema, of a sort, though in some ways the music is very very maximalist (or, you say MATERIAL, i say PROCESS :-))

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 23:09 (fourteen years ago)

and yeah, the Jancso DVDs issued (in Europe) by Second Run have been a in every sense an eye-opener

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 23:12 (fourteen years ago)

Oh look, Jon Jost w/ Angel City, I hope to see that too!

It's an amazing mess, but fun and fascinating. That brief, pre-Sundance '89 'new narrative' moment is really interesting -- the early Jost things, Mark Rappaport, the handful of Benning narrative films, and the first couple Yvonne Rainers. That stuff was a big deal at the time, but it seems like people would rather forget about it now.

C0L1N B..., Tuesday, 28 February 2012 23:25 (fourteen years ago)

Ward - I guess its in the way Straub frames somewhat matches an experience of actual sitting down and watching music in concert/venue: from one specific (most of the time awkward) angle, sometimes a close up or away from you (lean forwards or backwards, and this is done at points where music reaches a point of high emotion, say). It lets you study and contemplate the performance - how you'll see a few of the orchestra/chamber and sometimes others are simply obscured from your POV. This matches their almost obsessive aim to recreate performances by employing instruments that would have been used in the period, musicians that I guess would be willing to recreate an idea of Bach.

Contrast that with how things are done these days when you watch it on TV - for an orchestra its whoever has the meaty part at that moment is the one who has a close-up. Not to criticise, two different aims, but the film got to something v recognisible about watching concerts.

As a portrait of an artist it just seemed spot on as to what I think they are like - I loved the bit where Bach talks about his theory of music - how it must have god-like harmony not devilish droning and yet the music is so continuous and unrelenting that you'd feel Bach would hate this.

Maximalist => heard someone say this represented an arid and mathematical side of Bach. Can't say I know enough, but this film isn't scared to punctuate with pictures of waves crashing against rocks or this gorgeous duet playing against pictures of passing clouds. xp

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 23:35 (fourteen years ago)

See (if you can) S&H's Not-Reconciled — pretty much the definitive "difficult art film". The film is almost all ellipses — either to give a sense of time being "out of joint" or to let the viewer fill in the blanks in the action, like a negative space drawing. After seeing it once I'm not sure if I understand it completely, but it is hypnotic.

tanuki, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 02:11 (fourteen years ago)

Pinocchio - hated this as a kid and now I know why. Truly horrifying and barely redeemed by its happy ending. I'm not kidding when I say that I was literally shaken up by watching this film. Wholly earns its reputation through the power of its images, of course; there is a great momentum to the storytelling that feels like a significant leap forward from the occasionally inert Snow White (I'm slowly going through the classic Disney canon, none of which I've seen as an adult beyond these two). But yeah, the common charge against Disney that the sanitize fairy tales has no ground to stand on with this one.

The English Patient - avoided this one for years due to its reputation as an undeserving best pic winner and for a long standing dislike for Michael Ondaatje (to be fair, never read this particular novel by him). Will say that there's a decent 90 minute pulpy 1940s studio b-movie in here somewhere, but the movie is far too stuffy and high minded to give into such pop pleasures. Dialogue is some of the most embarrassingly bad I've heard in recent memory, which I'm perhaps all too willing to attribute to the source material. Willem Dafoe's character by far the most interesting person in the film.

Moneyball - a baseball movie where the bulk of the action takes place in board rooms and on conference calls. Credit the filmmakers and writers (didn't need to be told that Sorkin worked on this) for making unfilmable material watchable and even interesting, but the film eventually feels rather thin and wholly lacking in drama. Pitt was fantastic though, and not having seen any of the other nominees yet I cannot say I would have objected at all to him getting n Oscar for this.

The Lineup - an early Don Siegal noir with Eli Wallach as the lead villain. Was apparently a spinoff from some 50s cop show that I couldn't tell you nothing about (the cops in the film are the least interesting thing about it). Not a helluva lot of weight, but fast moving and suspenseful with Wallach as a truly nasty bad guy; a scene where he destroys a little girl's doll while looking for drugs is hilarious and mean. Hardly a masterpiece, but I could watch this kinda thing all day.

I Fucked Up (jer.fairall), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 02:56 (fourteen years ago)

Thanks tanuki -- I'll try and seek that out.

re: Red Psalm: there is this lenghty but more than worthwhile essay by Raymond Durgnat

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 1 March 2012 20:59 (fourteen years ago)

Never on Sunday

*tera, Thursday, 1 March 2012 21:04 (fourteen years ago)

Zooey Dechanel seems more precious/twee to me but she doesn't create films.

*tera, Thursday, 1 March 2012 21:09 (fourteen years ago)

Beyond a Reasonable Doubt (Fritz Lang) - biggest lol in ages when Austin gets killed. That's about all I have. Oh, and I was thinking someone should program this in a dbl bill w/Oshima's Death by Hanging

Arrebato - this ws made by one time Almodovar collaborator Ivan Zuluetta. About a teen film-maker - and his relationship w/a director (he seems to be in the middle of a horror movie and at the end of a destructive relationship w/Cecilia Roth) he gets to know through his cousin. Really all about how things - movies, drugs, relatioships - can consume you.

He never made another film, which is a shame but understandable.

Tony Manero - I guess almost any Chilean film that gets in the West will be about the '73 coup in some way, huh? But this is artfully done - a film about a Saturday Night Fever obsessive getting by (w/murder and living in a 'subsersive' commune-like arrangement) in post-Allende Chile. The central performance is great, has a 70s Pacino like intensity.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 3 March 2012 11:00 (fourteen years ago)

Almost every film I see now has me thinking about double bills, even though they hardly ever exist nowdays.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 3 March 2012 11:02 (fourteen years ago)

i watched nobody's business by alan berliner last night. i can't remember where i heard about it. so good! what else is good by him? i'm searching ilx for previous mentions of the guy.

john-claude van donne (schlump), Saturday, 3 March 2012 16:32 (fourteen years ago)

xyzzzz:I do the same thing! They do a classic movie thing at the Paramount in Austin over he summer and double bill, but yeah, that's it.
Double Billing Thread, teehee...so my mind can suddenly go blank.

*tera, Saturday, 3 March 2012 18:13 (fourteen years ago)

tera - actually you reminded me that Riverside cinema in London often do dbl bills, its just that a lot of them are sorta dull and obvious.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 4 March 2012 11:58 (fourteen years ago)

Fox and His Friends - one of Fassbinber's best at times (the trip to Morocco). I can think of half a dozen I like more though. Impressive how every type of prejudice seems to have been inserted throughout the script. Which is part of the problem, its so damn obvious.

Secret Beyond the Door - another Fritz Lang. Psychoanalysis so cuckoo.

Shadows of a Hot Summer - Frantisek Vlacil film from '78.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 5 March 2012 18:11 (fourteen years ago)

Three Resurrected Drunkards (Nagisa Ōshima, 1968) 4/5
Make Way for Tomorrow (Leo McCarey, 1937) 4/5
Do the Right Thing (Spike Lee, 1989) 4.5/5
Onibaba (Kaneto Shindo, 1964) 4/5
Far From Heaven (Todd Haynes, 2002) 4/5
Lola Montès (Max Ophüls, 1955) 5/5
The Thief of Bagdad (Michael Powell et al, 1940) 4/5
Sukiyaki Western Django (Takashi Miike, 2007) 2/5
Dogville (Lars von Trier, 2003) 5/5
Shadows (John Cassavetes, 1959) 3/5

tanuki, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 13:48 (fourteen years ago)

Knuckle (Ian Palmer, 2011) 3/5
Whale Rider (Niki Caro, 2002) 4/5
More Than Just A Game (Junnaid Ahmed, 2007) 3/5
The rocky Road To Dublin (Peter Lennon, 1968) 5/5
Page One: Inside The New York Times (Andrew Rossi, 2011) 3/5
Scum (Alan Clarke, 1979) 4/5
Elephant (Alan Clarke, 1988) 4/5
Road (Alan Clarke, 1987) 3.5/5
Mean Streets (Martin Scorsese, 1973) 4/5
Frida (Julie Taymor, 2002) 3/5
101 Reyjkavik (Baltasar Kormakur, 2000) 3.5/5

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 14:45 (fourteen years ago)

obsessed with alan clarke movies of late. im going to write my FYP on him.

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 15:00 (fourteen years ago)

Kelly's Heroes at the weekend. Think I've seen it several times but only rarely from the beginning, this might be 2nd or 3rd time.
Like the film. Just looked it up and it was written by the same guy as the Italian Job. Had assumed it would be somebody to do with MASH or something similar. But same writer also went onto do Red Heat maybe that says more about it?

Stevolende, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:37 (fourteen years ago)

ive had that on my dvr to watch for like 6 months. how was rickles in it?

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:45 (fourteen years ago)


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