The incredible austerity of D&D in 1980

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogrwfW1rsA4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfxXug5ZMdk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7TuKwI0rcM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzApFuM2s24

We still had this in Alabama as late as the mid-90s.

And if you just want to keep it simple:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U75gvnTX1qo

this thread title/concept is all time for me

enjoyed this wiki entry recently:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C3%A9kumel

my favourite 'huh, of course there's a wikipedia page for that' of late was the entry for 'self-hating Jew'

I feel sorry for the D&D crusader from the 60 minutes video, it's pretty obvious she just did not know how to process the death of her son and was scrambling for someone to blame. What angers me is Bradley giving her ideas any sort of credence.

in retrospect I am lucky my parents didn't swallow any of this bullshit (about either metal or D&D)

My parents didn't buy it wrt to metal, but they certainly did for D&D. I had to hide my Monster's Manual for years.

i may have mentioned it elsewhere on this thread but i was suspended from school for playing d&d

also
Can an Immortal PC opt to become a Hierarch of all the Spheres, since this is actually more difficult than becoming the Full Hierarch of just one Sphere?

Any Immortal who changes Spheres immediately loses all accumulated power (both temporary and permanent) and becomes a Novice Temporal in the new Sphere. The lost power can never be regained except through experience. While an Immortal character could become a Hierarch of each Sphere in this manner (except Entropy, which is offlimits to PCs), the character gets no special benefit from the effort. Full Hierarchs have the option of disbursing their life forces into their home planes and reincarnating themselves as mortals, thus restarting the struggle toward Immortality. This is not the same as simply changing Spheres, and only a Full Hierarch may do this.

That might be my favorite quotation yet. Wowwwwwwww this game sounds terrible.

Terribly amazing you mean.

I'm going to watch this 60 Mins thing but recently I saw "Mortal Kombat", a very one-sided documentary about videogame violence controversy, and just about everything in that film was 100% fearmongering horeshit.

I remember my parents being concerned about the glee with which we ran over pedestrians in 'Car Wars', using little cardboard counters of cars and little cardboard counters of people. Other than that they were pretty cool about it.

Only thing my parents ever banned was, bizarrely, the Smurfs, for being annoying and sexist.

Car Wars was great.

I tweeted this to Ned yesterday but I'll stick it here for posterity:

that movie [Mazes and Monsters] made my grandmother cancel my gift subscription to Dragon magazine. I've had a grudge against Hanks ever since.

haha awww

whenever dudes like kodwo eshun or k-punk write about joy division -- a kind of secret network among (mostly) young dudes, some kind of hidden community etc, i think of 80s d&d

Car Wars was great.

otm, by far my favorite of the many, many nerds-only games i played during my early adolescence. over the past couple years, i've often caught myself pining hard for a copy in the original plastic "pocket box".

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj242/donaldparsley/SteveJacksonGames-CarWars.jpg

I would play that RIGHT NOW.

didn't Steve Jackson fight a court case related to this hysteria?

also he designed the immortal Melee, Wizard, OGRE and GEV games, which I think I still own some of.

It might be obvious but I had no idea Elder Scrolls owed so much to D&D

GURPS owned too

GURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRPZ

okay, what was that mega obsessive role player that's heavily rapey? There were pdfs floating around for awhile of the 800 page player manual with gazillions of charts and stuff.

Rapey? I don't remember a rapey one.

oh god it was called FATAL

steve jackson games was involved in legal trouble, not for any satany business, but with the US secret service for a cyberpunk supplement. the feds thought it was teaching ppl how to hack irl

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Jackson_Games,_Inc._v._United_States_Secret_Service

http://www.geeknative.com/1320/f-a-t-a-l/

i had never seed the cover of this, eugh

I've never heard of FATAL. After my gaming time I guess.

I think the last one I bought was Kult, or some White Wolf thing (I really liked their sci-fi superhero line - Adventure!, Aberrant and Aeon: Trinity, and bought them even though I wasn't gaming anymore).

Car Wars was THE SHIT. would totally play that right now.

IS there a way to play CAR WARS online? We have enough for a game.

Car Wars was amazingly awesome and I would play this very instant! Remember the Uncle Albert's Auto Stop and Gunnery Shop catalogs? Loved flipping through those during boring classes.

so damn good.

there appears to be some kind of multimplayer online car wars type came called dark wind (???), but i dunno anything about it. not a simulation of the original.

Apparently there is a Car Wars module for VASSAL.

LOL, FATAL, right.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osIuKf_RxRQ
^must watch

bear in mind that you need to jump around on that video, don't watch it straight through.

just every time you think it's getting too pedantic, jump around. it's a grand experience

here's how it plays
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zjOtXfXtEs
"why do they even have this? everyone's most attractive feature is their chest"

oh man, the discussion of vaginal circumference, this poor guy feels compelled to make the obvious commentary and it's clear that he's so sad with himself for doing it

omg this guy arguing the logistics of halfling penis circumference

'If successful for a female character, the skin between the vagina and the anus rips and the two orifices effectively become one'
"No... that's not how that works..."

guh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TLlbVW-VA0
^the theme song

fatal is the best role-playing game that i have seen
fantasy adventure to adult lechery
fatal is the only game that lets you be obscene
fantasy adventure to adult lechery

vid is a bit nsfw-y