Another fucking spree shooting. Great.

http://www.woio.com/story/17024182/breaking-chardon

My friend is a teacher there.

i have a friend with kids in chardon. i don't think they're in high school yet- 8th grade maybe

Times like these, living on the west coast is nice. By the time I'm awake, all the facebook freakouts have already happened and everyone is safe and waiting to evacuate.

one dead

middle school is on the same site as the high school. friends kid is home safe.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/12069/1215536-53.stm

We were locked down all afternoon. My building is on the other side of a parking garage from this one. I was walking up the street from getting lunch about 15 minutes before this happened.

damn. stay safe. seems odd to say 'hope it's all ok' when it clearly isn't

thx, but this was yesterday.

Rare, but we had one in Toronto today.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/shots-fired-torontos-eatons-centre-media-reports-225942578.html

The mall where it happened was the country's most famous when it opened in the late '70s; I don't think it's quite as much of a tourist mecca as it used to be.

I'm sorry. The gravity of this crime is horrible and basically straight out of my worst nightmares, but this quote made me lol.

"Any place for discharging a fire arm in the city of Toronto is dangerous. In the food court of the Eaton centre on a Saturday evening, it's not only dangerous, it's outrageous," he said.

These things are extra-sickening when random young people are involved; there's a 13-year-old in critical condition who was visiting the city. This is getting some attention too: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/baseball/mlb/06/03/lawrie.mall.shooting.ap/index.html?sct=hp_t2_a18&eref=sihp.

It's weird how Lawrie's tweet is being treated as such a big part of this story

According to Lawrie, he left the food court 10 seconds before the shooting; if that's accurate, I guess I can see why his proximity has been a story, especially on a site like CNN/SI that has no special attachment to the city (and is, after all, a sports site). But no, it shouldn't overshadow actual victims; my own sense is that it hasn't, but maybe you've encountered coverage I haven't.

Over in Seattle, it's been a grim thing to watch my FB feeds this past week. Everyone I know in Seattle seems to have known the people who were killed at Cafe Racer.

Just the Star, the Sun, TSN and CBC
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Actually, I guess it's not so strange if Lawrie's a bigger celebrity than I realized. I never heard of him until the helmet/umpire thing last month (don't follow baseball)

I went to the Racer Sessions memorial last night, there were hundreds of people there. Basically everyone who wandered into Cafe Racer at some point remembered one of the victims. Even my dad, who had been there twice, remembered that he had asked Drew what card game he was playing, and he had offered to teach him then and there.

http://gothamist.com/2012/08/24/five_shot_outside_empire_state_buil.php

I was @ herald square at 9 am. heard nothing.

u might be dead :(

BTW, blows my mind that the most severe punishment Norway can give for that psycho who killed 77 people is just 21 years in prison.

He'll be out when he's 54!

I heard law in Norway specifies it is possible for a judge to extend the sentence if it is ruled he is still a danger to society after the sentence is up, and he had said he would do it again.

See, that's the justification for life in prison: when is a guy who killed 77 men, women and children in cold, racist blood not a danger to society? You can't rehabilitate that.

Yeah I agree that it's kind of nuts to not initially get the highest of sentences in any court system.

Yes, NPR news just now said Norway's preventive detention law means "he'll never be released", hope that's right.

um:

http://gawker.com/5937573/breaking-reports-of-mass-shooting-near-empire-state-building?utm_campaign=socialflow_gawker_twitter&utm_source=gawker_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

Shooter Identified as Jeffrey Johnson, 53, at Mayor’s News Conference

The two law enforcement officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to publicly discuss the matter. They said the gunman previously worked at a store inside the landmark skyscraper.

Restaurants & Bars Location
Chipotle West 34th Street
The Empire Room West 33rd Street
Heartland Brewery West 33rd Street
Rosa's Pizza West 33rd Street Lobby
Starbucks West 34th Street
Retailers Location
AT&T West 34th Street
Choice Forex, Inc., Currency Exchange West 33rd Street
Federal Express West 33rd Street
Finesse Jewelers West 33rd Street
Kinko's West 33rd Street
Louis' Shoe Repair West 33rd Street
Men's Wearhouse West 34th Street
Perfumania West 34th Street
Strawberry West 34th Street
Walgreens West 34th Street

My money's on Men's Wearhouse.

The suspect, Johnson, had worked for about six years as a women's clothing designer at Hazan Imports. Johnson lost his job at the business, near the Empire State Building, about a year ago.

shit.

"He'll be out when he's 54!"

He's never getting out.

"Bloomberg says he's not sure if the construction worker who tipped off the cops is a hetero. "I don't know. We all use the word 'hetero.'"

BTW, blows my mind that the most severe punishment Norway can give for that psycho who killed 77 people is just 21 years in prison.

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, August 24, 2012 2:14 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

He'll be out when he's 54!

― how's life, Friday, August 24, 2012 2:15 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

what the fuck is wrong with u ppl

for a year now it has been made abundantly clear that the cunt is almost certainly never going to be released, whatever the court ruled

people in not reading the whole thread SHOCKER

what the fuck is wrong with you, nilmar?

http://www.theonion.com/articles/nation-celebrates-full-week-without-deadly-mass-sh,29293/

Meanwhile, not literally a "mass shooting" but
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/24/chicago-shootings-19-woun_n_1827530.html?utm_hp_ref=fb&src=sp&comm_ref=false#slide=1425105

ugh
http://gma.yahoo.com/jersey-shopping-plaza-shootout-leaves-several-dead-110051705--abc-news-topstories.html

Brookfield, Wisconsin

http://www.wisn.com/news/At-least-7-people-transported-to-hospital-after-shooting-near-mall/-/9373668/17074464/-/sh5y52/-/index.html#ixzz29xCIxitr

This shit is getting too commonplace

"Not secured" means gunman on the loose, right?

Once was too commonplace for this shit.

http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/multiple-victims-shot-near-brookfield-square-le7a3b4-175147441.html

A short time later, Gosh said, a large black man with a handgun ran out and appeared to be chasing the girl. However, police began arriving, and when the gunman saw police he ran back into the building - or perhaps into the woods behind the building, where Westmoor Country Club is located.
...
They were looking for a black male, 6 feet 1 inch and about 270 pounds, who may be driving a black Mazda. Scanner traffic indicated he may have left the area after the Goshes saw him, although that was not clear.

But at least

Four people are in the Froedtert Hospital emergency room being evaluated, and none are in critical condition, hospital officials said.

was he disgruntled

could have been avoided if he had a two-parent home

The most pointed bit in last night's SNL debate opening was the woman who asked what they planned to do about assault weapons. Romney: "Nothing." Obama: "Nothing."

http://my.chicagotribune.com/#section/544/article/p2p-73696177/

In The Myth of Martyrdom, author Lankford, a criminal justice professor at the University of Alabama, rejects the prevailing view of suicide terrorists as radicalized individuals who will do anything for a cause. Rather, he asserts, they are merely unhappy, damaged individuals who want to die. Terrorist organizations recruit people who are in desperate straits for suicide missions and call them martyrs, and we have bought into their propaganda.

Citing recent research, including evaluations of preemptively arrested suicide terrorists, Lankford argues that the psychological profiles of self-destructive killers, whether underwear bombers or school shooters, are not so different from those of the 34,000 Americans who commit suicide every year, burdened by mental illness, social isolation, and personal and professional failures. Underneath the political rhetoric in suicide letters, martyrdom videos and testimonies of grieving family and friends, Lankford finds evidence of deep psychological pain. The young mother who blows herself up in a crowd, for instance, turns out to be escaping the shame of an adulterous affair.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=mind-reviews-the-myth-of-martyrdom-what-really-drives-suicide-bombers-rampage-shooters