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(Btw, glad that you're all OK.)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:04 (twenty years ago)

3 armed officers going into University College Hospital ?!?

dmun drive-in (dmun), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:05 (twenty years ago)

'dummy nail bombs' wtf. fuckheads anyway.

N_RQ, Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:05 (twenty years ago)

I don't mind discussion and all that, but when you're scared out of your mind, checking the interweb compulsively, and you see there have been 50 new answers in the past 5 minutes, it makes your heart leap and think something has been announced.

And then any actual reports and info and updates get lost amidst a flurry of bad puns.

x-post

Rum, Sodomy and the LAN (kate), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:06 (twenty years ago)

I see no actual need to split this thread into 2 separate ones. I see no need to even think about what the thread should be like.

Raston Warrior Robot (alix), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:07 (twenty years ago)

3.03: Scotland Yard confirm they have armed officers at "an incident" at University College Hospital.
In an internal memo, police asked staff to look out for a male, "black, or possibly Asian appearance", about 6ft2ins tall, wearing a blue top and carrying a holdall with wires sticking out of the top.

Bag may or may not have "bomb" written on it.

Alex M (Alex M), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:08 (twenty years ago)

PA writethrough:

POLICE STATIONS LEAD

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Eyewitnesses on affected Tube lines reported seeing rucksacks which had exploded, but the damage was on nothing like the scale of a fortnight ago.

The stations affected were Warren Street, Oval and Shepherd's Bush.

Scotland Yard said officers had been deployed in full protective equipment in order to carry out an examination of the scene at Warren Street.

But a spokesman added: "We have carried out initial examination at Oval and early indications show no trace of chemical agents."

Scotland Yard also confirmed that armed officers had been deployed to an "incident" at University College Hospital, near Warren Street, where many casualties from the July 7 attacks were treated.

A spokesman said: "We are dealing with an incident at University College Hospital and we have armed officers deployed there.

"We cannot go into any further detail at this stage."

Three armed officers were seen going into the major incident unit at UCH, just minutes before someone was carried from an ambulance into the unit on a stretcher.

That followed reports that someone had been seen "running away" from Warren Street in the wake of the incident there.

Sosiane Mohellavi, 35, was travelling from Oxford Circus to Walthamstow when he was evacuated from a train at Warren Street.

"I was sitting in the carriage reading a book and I smelt something burning, like wiring or tyres, and it just got more intense.

"Suddenly people panicked and started screaming and were walking on each other's backs trying to get the hell out of there.

"I couldn't move, I didn't know what to do, whether to run or not.

"People ran and left their shoes and belongings when they smelt the burning," Mr Mohellavi said.

Victoria Line passenger Ivan McCracken told Sky News: "I was in a middle carriage and the train was not far short of Warren Street station when suddenly the door between my carriage and the next one burst open and dozens of people started rushing through. Some were falling, there was mass panic.

"It was difficult to get the story from any of them what had happened but when I got to ground level there was an Italian young man comforting an Italian girl who told me he had seen what had happened.

"He said that a man was carrying a rucksack and the rucksack suddenly exploded. It was a minor explosion but enough to blow open the rucksack.

"The man then made an exclamation as if something had gone wrong. At that point everyone rushed from the carriage."

Mr McCracken said he smelled smoke but did not see any injured passengers.

Prime Minister Tony Blair cancelled a visit to east London this afternoon as events unfolded.

London Mayor Ken Livingstone also cancelled a visit this afternoon to the Family Assistance Centre set up to help victims of the July 7 blasts in light of the current Tube incidents.

At Oval station there were also reports of a man dumping a rucksack in a carriage then fleeing as the doors closed.

Stagecoach, which owns the number 26 bus involved in today's incident, said the driver heard a bang at around 1.30pm.

The bus had left Waterloo and was in Shoreditch when the incident happened.

"The driver heard a bang which appeared to come from the upper deck. When he went upstairs to investigate, the windows on the upper deck were blown out.

"The bus is structurally intact and we don't have any reports of injuries," said a spokesman.

The Government's civil contingencies committee - known as Cobra - was meeting this afternoon in response to the latest incidents, Downing Street confirmed.

After that, Mr Blair - who was informed about the incidents during a lunch in Downing Street with Australian premier John Howard - will decide whether to go ahead with his planned meeting with intelligence and police chiefs originally scheduled to discuss the aftermath of the July 7 attacks on London.

Some Tube lines were shut down after the explosions.

A Transport for London spokesman said: "There is a Code Amber which means that the trains are being taken to the next station and passengers evacuated to above ground.

"Police are at all three stations."

mfl

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:08 (twenty years ago)

Does anyone know if any buses are running in central London??

Based on 60-second sampling here in Holborn...yes. (Two moderately-full 55s have just gone past followed by a fullish 19 and a rammed bendy of unknown number).

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:09 (twenty years ago)

There are enough news sites out there to refer to those for actual news updates. I always find the news reporting on threads like this rather pointless other than to prompt witty one-liners.

You can't separate news from discussion - unless it's a very personal issue (as was 2 weeks ago).

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:09 (twenty years ago)

From Nat Rail:
Mainline train stations are currently remaining open. The following train services are being disrupted:
Kings Cross Thameslink and Farringdon stations have been closed but trains are passing through the area.
Wagn services between Moorgate and Finsbury Park have been suspended.

Victoria and bakerloo lines are reopened. No service on Piccadilly Line.

Archel (Archel), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:09 (twenty years ago)

"Suddenly people panicked and started screaming and were walking on each other's backs trying to get the hell out of there.

Yikes.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:10 (twenty years ago)

Human panic is a horrible thing.

Huey (Huey), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:11 (twenty years ago)

It seems that buses are running, but are being diverted as TCR is closed off.

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:13 (twenty years ago)

Ah, hang about - it's the big Geroff And Walk thing again; buses disgorging passengers at the traffic lights. Think it may just be police cordon-induced congestion this time rather than actual road closure.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:13 (twenty years ago)

xpost

I think someone upthread said that other sites weren't loading for them, so posting whole news items does make some sense.

I did have a witty one liner too, but I will refrain now.

Raston Warrior Robot (alix), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:13 (twenty years ago)

maybe one of the bombers is injured and in the UCH

Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:13 (twenty years ago)

the damage caused by blind panic is a scary thing to contemplate in and of itself. our train was stopped last night for about 5 minutes for an unknown reason (probably congestion), and i'm certain that at the slightest whiff of anything being out of the ordinary people would have started stampeding.

lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:13 (twenty years ago)

xpost oh good, the trains are all right, I can get home from bournemouth then.

I find the discussion reassuring, especially when it's fast-paced and involves stupid jokes witty one liners. Like talking quite fast when you're worried, you know?

Glad you all seem okay.

cis, Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:14 (twenty years ago)

the 26 is always empty in both directions at all times of day (warning: exaggeration)

but this is a very curious bus to choose

(nearly everything that has so far been reported seems very curious though)

mark s (mark s), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:15 (twenty years ago)

why was isla fisher's name mod-edited?

N_RQ, Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:16 (twenty years ago)

nearly everything that has so far been reported seems very curious

otm

beanz (beanz), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:17 (twenty years ago)

Humour's always a good antidote to panic. Hope no-one's journey home is too much of a pain.

NickB (NickB), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:17 (twenty years ago)

seems like it could be copy cats?

scg, Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:18 (twenty years ago)

why was isla fisher's name mod-edited?

just my little joke. as you were.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:19 (twenty years ago)

nearly everything that has so far been reported seems very curious

otm

beanz (beanz), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:19 (twenty years ago)

You can't separate news from discussion

Well, you can (e.g., if discussion of policy in regard to searching rucksacks, history of airline security, etc., had continued, it perhaps should have gotten its own thread), but I don't know if one is needed in this instance/these incidents (though I suppose some people close to the scene might want to know what lines are still running and all).

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:19 (twenty years ago)

bbc news feed: "a memo is circulating UCH asking staff to look out for a tall man with wires protruding from his top"

mark s (mark s), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:19 (twenty years ago)

[gah syntax checker]

beanz (beanz), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:20 (twenty years ago)

The 30 and the 26 were my two key buses routes when I lived in Hackney. Hackney tube now! (is that banner still up?)

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:20 (twenty years ago)

The UCH situation seems to be that a tall man "with wires sticking out of him" ran away from the Warren Street incident and into the hospital, pursued by three policemen with sub-machine guns. The hospital is still sealed off. This is according to a UCH internal memo reported just now on the BBC.

Momus (Momus), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:20 (twenty years ago)

the wires thing is so WTF

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:20 (twenty years ago)

The real Raston Warrior Robot wants his ID back.

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:21 (twenty years ago)

They're using electric men as bombs!

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:21 (twenty years ago)

there isn't much news. i'm not far from warren street. the hot news is there are lots of copters and occasional sirens.

"the man is said to have an alarm clock hanging from around his neck"

N_RQ, Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:21 (twenty years ago)

His eyes were glowing red and he was heard to mutter "I'll be back".

Alex M (Alex M), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:22 (twenty years ago)

Flavor Flav, it has come to this?

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:22 (twenty years ago)

the bbc guy really did say "wires protruding from his top" --- presumably meaning his upper body clothing rather than the top of his head/hat

mark s (mark s), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:22 (twenty years ago)

I will let someone else make the obvious 'joke' there.

xpost

Flaviah T Flavahole (blueski), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:22 (twenty years ago)

All they need to do is find another guy with a radio control thingy in his hand and they'll have the mastermind.

beanz (beanz), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:23 (twenty years ago)

Nick, are you back in Berlin?

suzy (suzy), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:23 (twenty years ago)

Channel 4 report that a man threw a rucksack onto the tube train at the Oval and then ran off. Evading bystanders attempts to restrain him.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:23 (twenty years ago)

Oh no he's not. Is he saying "Get up get get down, late 999 wears the late crown"?

(10x-post)

k/l (Ken L), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:24 (twenty years ago)

http://photos1.blogger.com/img/27/1084/200/Athlete%20-%20Wires.jpg

DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:24 (twenty years ago)

We're all so cute...

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:25 (twenty years ago)

man arrested in whitehall outside MoD apparently (news 24)

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:25 (twenty years ago)

man arrested by armed police at downing street

mark s (mark s), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:25 (twenty years ago)

I know you are.

Raston Warrior Robot (alix), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:26 (twenty years ago)

Spot the glaring xpost, people.

Raston Warrior Robot (alix), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:27 (twenty years ago)

does it have protruding wires?

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:28 (twenty years ago)

man arrested by armed police at downing street
-- mark s (mar...), July 21st, 2005.

about time.

George Galloway, Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:28 (twenty years ago)


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