Movies That Were Probably Made By a Spasm of Six Year-Olds on Acid: The Top 75 Action Films Poll Results Thread

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the matrix had no excuse rly (xp well i mostly meant the sequels, which i've only half-watched, so don't know if they had any reason why after the end of the first one he was suddenly p lame again) but the whole incepted-person-having-to-believe-it's-reality thing ruined any chance inception had of being interesting. more freight trains on the road for some reason, fewer boring explosions for some reason.

shart practice (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:26 (fourteen years ago)

the sequels don't exist as far as i'm concerned

Number None, Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:28 (fourteen years ago)

it's pretty much a given at this point that a good 40% of ILE film conversation around a movie is going to involve arguments that make one question if the person making the argument actually watched the movie

xxp: um for most of the second movie Neo flies around the Matrix like Superman and iirc doesn't actually use any guns; it's the other characters who don't have his powers who are still run and gunning

robbery by sudden snatching (DJP), Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:28 (fourteen years ago)

what would kill bill have been like if theyd had lightsabers

max, Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:43 (fourteen years ago)

i still don't get why the punisher came back to town to punish and let everyone know that he was alive. element of surprise, dude...

scott seward, Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:47 (fourteen years ago)

the knowing is part of the punishment

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:47 (fourteen years ago)

kinda dumb if you ask me.

scott seward, Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:48 (fourteen years ago)

oh and way to involve other people in your thing by moving to weird rooming house right next to three other people. right after your thing had everyone in your family killed. abandoned place in the country would have been more sensible.

scott seward, Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:50 (fourteen years ago)

but i dug it.

scott seward, Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:50 (fourteen years ago)

it's pretty much a given at this point that a good 40% of ILE film conversation around a movie is going to involve arguments that make one question if the person making the argument actually watched the movie

Yeah, I feel like there are some pretty simple movies about which critics seem to get confused.

Unleash the Chang (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:54 (fourteen years ago)

hey that's why HE'S the punisher xp

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:54 (fourteen years ago)

1. Until Neo become The One he's only able to defy the laws of physics to a certain extent (did you miss all the training etc?)

sure, but why are all the entities that control the matrix - Agent Smith, etc. - observing the laws of physics, using guns etc

erotic war comedy pollster (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:56 (fourteen years ago)

http://www.elec-intro.com/EX/05-14-22/jamie_bio.jpg

myth busted, dudes, move on

some dude, Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:57 (fourteen years ago)

guys, I watched Robocop last night and it was sooooo great

the last two minutes alone are mind-boggling great

valleys of your mind (mh), Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:59 (fourteen years ago)

sure, but why are all the entities that control the matrix - Agent Smith, etc. - observing the laws of physics, using guns etc

... You're asking why software entities that existed within a framework operated largely under the confines of that framework?

Also, what are the physics behind Smith taking over other entities and turning them into clones of himself?

robbery by sudden snatching (DJP), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:00 (fourteen years ago)

xp Is it like a Neuromancer thing (warning: 20 years or so since i read Neuromancer)? The computerised data streams or w/e are constructed along recognisable human lines to make them easier to operate. Yes when you are walking down the street you are only shifting data/programming, but by making it something natural like walking or, er, firing a gun, then it makes it easier to manipulate that data. I mean give a shit really, but if you're looking for something to hang your hat on it might do.

The Winged Devil Ape (Fizzles), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:01 (fourteen years ago)

hey ease up nerds this is the action thread

I GUESS THAT CINNABON GETTIN EATEN (Edward III), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:01 (fourteen years ago)

TOO LATE

FPocalypto! (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:02 (fourteen years ago)

The Agents were versions of a program in The Matrix that operate with certain system permissions. The Smith one was corrupted and was able to use a hack to gain escalated permissions although he still lacked access to core system functions.

This will make it all completely clear, and I am sure it is exactly what the Wachowskis were thinking when they wrote it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_(computer_security)

valleys of your mind (mh), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:04 (fourteen years ago)

btw Neo was just escalating permissions but in the later films he learns how to use "sudo" and eventually gains ring 0 access

This all correlates with the first draft of the script where the humans were not a power source, but in fact the actual hardware the matrix ran on.

valleys of your mind (mh), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:05 (fourteen years ago)

the root password is "kungfu"

silverfish, Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:08 (fourteen years ago)

was changed in 3rd movie to Wux1a

I GUESS THAT CINNABON GETTIN EATEN (Edward III), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:11 (fourteen years ago)

why didn't some admin go in and just delete Neo's user account

erotic war comedy pollster (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:13 (fourteen years ago)

with a bullet

erotic war comedy pollster (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:13 (fourteen years ago)

we can all agree that Bound was pretty good though, right?

scott seward, Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:14 (fourteen years ago)

yep

FPocalypto! (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:14 (fourteen years ago)

why didn't some admin go in and just delete Neo's user account

this is basically the entire Neo/Agent Smith conflict across all three movies

robbery by sudden snatching (DJP), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:15 (fourteen years ago)

this reminds me of the complaints about dream levels in inception not being dream-like

Unleash the Chang (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:16 (fourteen years ago)

those, uh, dudes are making cloud atlas for 100 million dollars! they better not fuck up! i didn't read the book. movie stars:

Tom Hanks
Hugh Grant
Halle Berry
Jim Broadbent
Hugo Weaving
Jim Sturgess
James D'Arcy
Ben McKeen
Susan Sarandon
Keith David
David Gyasi
Zhou Xun
Doona Bae
Ben Whishaw

scott seward, Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:17 (fourteen years ago)

i cdn't be bothered to finish Cloud Atlas, it felt like i was reading Myst: the Novelization. so they shd be at home.

FPocalypto! (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:17 (fourteen years ago)

Cloud Atlas is great, movie will be unbearable

Bound was terrible

erotic war comedy pollster (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:19 (fourteen years ago)

huh, they are co-directing it with the dude who did run lola run. lola i didn't like, but i liked The International.

scott seward, Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:20 (fourteen years ago)

The careers of Gina Gershon and Jennifer Tllly after "Bound" defy the laws of physics, presaging "The Matrix."

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:21 (fourteen years ago)

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_94wGm5Prdv0/SdW7ZvASomI/AAAAAAAABqQ/uuemt7fVBkM/s400/2835-tilly%26gershon+Bound.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:23 (fourteen years ago)

Bound was cool *folds arms*

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:23 (fourteen years ago)

Also, Joey Pants rules.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:23 (fourteen years ago)

also cf: 90's hot

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:23 (fourteen years ago)

did starfucker Cornel West play a "software entity"?

Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:23 (fourteen years ago)

starfucker Cornel West played a human outside of the Matrix

robbery by sudden snatching (DJP), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:25 (fourteen years ago)

so... no

robbery by sudden snatching (DJP), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:25 (fourteen years ago)

Man, I was watching "Still Bill," and when Cornel West shows up, just to hang, I was, like, there is literally no reason for Cornel West to be in a Bill Withers doc.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:25 (fourteen years ago)

Fuck that dude for ruining the Matrix sequel.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:25 (fourteen years ago)

Man, I was watching "Still Bill," and when Cornel West shows up, just to hang, I was, like, there is literally no reason for Cornel West to be in a Bill Withers doc.

well, someone was running a camera, and it is West's first instinct to leap in front of any recording camera

dude has ruined many a family holiday

robbery by sudden snatching (DJP), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:26 (fourteen years ago)

so you have relatives who admire him for speaking truth to power?

Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:28 (fourteen years ago)

gina gershon should be the most famous actress alive. i wish she were in every movie.

scott seward, Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:29 (fourteen years ago)

cloud atlas the book is great!

max, Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:32 (fourteen years ago)

love gina gershon

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:33 (fourteen years ago)

oh man there is some terrible/awesomely campy movie where she plays a rock musician which you MUST SEE if you haven't already

erotic war comedy pollster (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:33 (fourteen years ago)

but yeah much love for the Gersh, even if Bound is terrible

erotic war comedy pollster (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:33 (fourteen years ago)

xpost sounds like he just crowds into all family photos.

lou reed scott walker monks niagra (chinavision!), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:33 (fourteen years ago)


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